It is unlikely either candidate will reach 2,383 through pledged delegates alone. To what end?

[morningfog]

At this point in the race, it seems unlikely that either candidate will secure enough pledged delegates to reach 2,383 outright without the delegate votes of at least some super delegates.

Specifically, Hillary would need 59% of all remaining pledged delegates to get to 2,383 pledged delegates. Since Bernie is winning states and collecting his share of pledged delegates, he is keeping it close enough to stay in through the end of the primary calendar making it unlikely Hillary will obtain enough PDs to reach 2,383.

In that event, it is dependent on the super delegates for a candidate to become the nominee and reach 2,373.

This would be the same scenario as in 2008. Neither Hillary nor Obama reached the nomination number on pledged delegates alone. Enough super delegates, however, expressed support for the pledged delegate majority winner, Obama, to bridge the gap. Only then did Hillary concede the nomination and end her campaign.

What should the result be this time?

What will the result be?

Should the candidate with a simple majority of the pledged delegates (2,026+) become the nominee? My position is that it should be that candidate.

Should the super delegates make their votes at the convention without regard to the pledged delegate winner?

In the event one candidate has theoretically reached 2,383 based on expressed super D support, should the other candidate drop out or take it to the convention?

I concede that this could be nothing more that a thought experiment. It's possible that there will be only one candidate left be the convention. Regardless, what do you think should happen under the above scenario?

[cantbeserious]

1. The Howard Dean's Of The World Should Not Decide The Outcome - Take It To The Convention

eom

[beachbum bob]

2. I suspect we have the rules in place do what the rules are suppose to do

funny I heard the same rhetoric when obama was ahead of hillary in 2008 from hillary supporters....the math is in hillary's favor for nomination, especially after today when her delegate and vote margins will increase her lead over sanders even more

[morningfog]

4. It's Monday. There are no contests today.

And what "rhetoric" are you even taking about?

There is no "rhetoric" in the OP. Only likelihoods and questions based on it.

Yes, no shit there are rules in place. The rules are simply that the super Ds are unpledged and can vote for whomever they want. And the question is who you think should (and who you think will) get the nomination assuming neither candidate secures through pledged delegates alone. In other words, how do you think the super Ds should make their decision, individually or collectively. Your response suggests that you have no opinion on the matter and that's fine.

[hobbit709]

3. Then we will find out who really runs the party. the people or the corporations.

[morningfog]

5. Kick

[MineralMan]

6. The candidate with the majority of the pledged delegates will

be the nominee. There will be a candidate with that majority. That one will be the nominee, and nobody else.

[morningfog]

7. That is what happened in 2008 and what I expect in 2016.

But it is not a given.

[MineralMan]

9. I doubt that tradition will be broken.

If we had more than two candidates with delegates, I might think differently, since there might not be a majority for a single candidate. That is not the case. The expressed will of the majority will be maintained and the superdelegates will vote accordingly.

I can't imagine any other outcome, unless the majority candidate is on death's door at the time of the convention. That's the only thing I believe could change the outcome.

[ibegurpard]

8. super delegate votes should reflect the will

Of the primary or caucus votes of their respective states. If that puts Hillary over the top so be it.
And super delegates need to be eliminated.

[morningfog]

10. Under that scenario they would just represent and "state bonus."