Hillary stops at a NC polling place !

[awake]

WTF msnbc now

[onehandle]

1. IT'S A CONSPIRACY! nt

[awake]

3. No it is campaigning outside of a polling place

which in most states is not allowed

[onehandle]

11. Is she wearing a button? Waving a sign? Using a megaphone?

Doubtful.

And the poll judge makes the 'campaigning' call. Not us.

[daleanime]

29. And why do you think they're not making it?

[Persondem]

33. You find me one friggin state where it is illegal to campaign OUTSIDE of a polling place.

No campaigning would ever happen if that were so.

In NC it's okay if you are 50 ft or so from the entrance. Most polling places have a sign that serves as the boundary.

Get a clue. And please stop the "Everything Clinton is evil" nonsense.

[Surya Gayatri]

42. ^^^This!^^^

....please stop the "Everything Clinton is evil" nonsense.

[rock]

56. Funny

And accurate! Especially about the quote.

[pinebox]

7. A conspiracy now when someone openly breaks the law?

This is illegal to do and if this was a Republican doing this in a GE you'd have a flippin' fit.
I don't know what the laws are in NC but Bill has done it in states where this is illegal already today with OH and IL.

EDIT--Illegal in NC

No person or group of persons shall hinder access, harass others, distribute campaign literature, place political advertising, solicit votes,
or otherwise engage in election‑related activity in the voting place or in a buffer zone which shall be prescribed by the county board of
elections around the voting place. In determining the dimensions of that buffer zone for each voting place, the county board of elections
shall, where practical, set the limit at 50 feet from the door of entrance to the voting place, measured when that door is closed, but in
no event shall it set the limit at more than 50 feet or at less than 25 feet. Except as provided in subsection (b) of this section, the county
board of elections shall also provide an area adjacent to the buffer zone for each voting place in which persons or groups of persons may distribute campaign literature, place political advertising, solicit votes, or otherwise engage in election-related activity (N.C. Gen.
Stat. § 163-166.4). https://www.supportthevoter.gov/files/2013/12/state-laws-polling-place-electioneering-102912.pdf

[brooklynite]

50. You can show us evidence that she's in the "buffer zone", right?

[Land of Enchantment]

18. I'm sure she is there to vote. nt

[Nanjeanne]

32. She can vote in NC?

[Agschmid]

2. Please stop, there is nothing wrong with this.

She wants to win, she is out to rally voters. How is working to get out the vote a bad thing?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. She is indefatigable .

[Joe the Revelator]

9. Because its illegal.

No person or group of persons shall hinder access, harass others, distribute campaign literature, place political advertising, solicit votes,
or otherwise engage in election‑related activity in the voting place or in a buffer zone which shall be prescribed by the county board of
elections around the voting place. In determining the dimensions of that buffer zone for each voting place, the county board of elections
shall, where practical, set the limit at 50 feet from the door of entrance to the voting place, measured when that door is closed, but in
no event shall it set the limit at more than 50 feet or at less than 25 feet. Except as provided in subsection (b) of this section, the county
board of elections shall also provide an area adjacent to the buffer zone for each voting place in which persons or groups of persons
may distribute campaign literature, place political advertising, solicit votes, or otherwise engage in election-related activity (N.C. Gen.
Stat. § 163‐166.4).

[Agschmid]

13. Well then call the cops.

If you feel it's illegal report it.

[Joe the Revelator]

19. That's a terrible attitude to have. nt

[Agschmid]

21. No it's not.

It wasn't illegal in Mass. much of this discussion is just hyperbole at this point.

http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/blog/2016/03/04/bill-clinton-massachusetts-election-law/

If something is illegal call the cops, report it.

[SheenaR]

48. Sure it's legal

if we are to assume that Bill Clinton was inside a polling place for nothing to do with the election. Just happened to be hanging out in New Bedford. People in New Bedford don't even hang out there.

[cwydro]

45. No it's not.

They can even pass out fliers as long as they don't cross a line.

[democrattotheend]

4. What are the laws in NC?

Not all states ban campaigning in/near a polling place.

[cwydro]

6. There are frequently candidates campaigning at the polling places here in NC.

It's apparently allowed.

[pinebox]

15. Illegal what Hillary did

No person or group of persons shall hinder access, harass others, distribute campaign literature, place political advertising, solicit votes,
or otherwise engage in election‑related activity in the voting place or in a buffer zone which shall be prescribed by the county board of
elections around the voting place. In determining the dimensions of that buffer zone for each voting place, the county board of elections
shall, where practical, set the limit at 50 feet from the door of entrance to the voting place, measured when that door is closed, but in
no event shall it set the limit at more than 50 feet or at less than 25 feet. Except as provided in subsection (b) of this section, the county
board of elections shall also provide an area adjacent to the buffer zone for each voting place in which persons or groups of persons may distribute campaign literature, place political advertising, solicit votes, or otherwise engage in election-related activity (N.C. Gen.
Stat. § 163-166.4). https://www.supportthevoter.gov/files/2013/12/state-laws-polling-place-electioneering-102912.pdf

[Persondem]

35. So you know for a fact she was inside of 25 feet?

You people really need get a clue.

[Joe the Revelator]

10. NC Law

No person or group of persons shall hinder access, harass others, distribute campaign literature, place political advertising, solicit votes,or otherwise engage in election‑related activity in the voting place or in a buffer zone which shall be prescribed by the county board ofelections around the voting place. In determining the dimensions of that buffer zone for each voting place, the county board of electionsshall, where practical, set the limit at 50 feet from the door of entrance to the voting place, measured when that door is closed, but inno event shall it set the limit at more than 50 feet or at less than 25 feet. Except as provided in subsection (b) of this section, the countyboard of elections shall also provide an area adjacent to the buffer zone for each voting place in which persons or groups of personsmay distribute campaign literature, place political advertising, solicit votes, or otherwise engage in election-related activity (N.C. Gen.Stat. § 163‐166.4).

[unc70]

8. The lead in NC must have narrowed

Otherwise, she would be campaigning in some other state.

Early voting in NC in total was up. Dem percentage of total similar to last couple of times; Repub, down several percent; Independents / undesignated, up several percent. Can only guess what that means.

[onehandle]

16. North Carolina is more of a bellwether swing states than the others (excluding Florida).

The nominee is in GE mode. Smart.

[JimDandy]

54. Clinton is in worried primary contender mode. She has, by her very presence, identified

the weakest state that she had expected to win in, but which now her internal polling demands that she, the primary (no pun intended) draw continue to campaign in. Bill, her secondary draw, is campaigning to keep the loss as low as possible, in a state her internal polling is undoubtedly showing she will now lose. That's how it works and yes, that is smart.

[democrattotheend]

22. I agree, her presence in NC is surprising

Especially since early voting is pretty big there. You would think she would focus her election day effort on a state that has no early voting to maximize her chance of reaching last minute undecideds.

[Punkingal]

23. I was thinking about that, too.

Seems like she must be concerned about NC to be there today.

[BernieforPres2016]

49. That's what I'm thinking, perhaps optimistically

Bernie is on to Arizona today. Why else would Hillary still be hanging around North Carolina unless she thinks she's going to lose Ohio, Illinois and Missouri and that she could lose North Carolina.

I voted in western North Carolina a half hour or so ago and two different workers at the precinct told me turnout had been very heavy. But my precinct skews older, not a normal Bernie demographic.

[mmonk]

28. Internal polling must see a problem.

[vdogg]

51. She's banked a 68-29 lead in early vote in NC

It's not tightening. She's trying to run up the totals there to offset possible losses in OH, MO, or IL.

[unc70]

53. How do we know that?

The last thing I saw was over a week ago from polling. The early votes have not been counted.

[vdogg]

55. Here

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com

In North Carolina, Clinton has already accrued a huge lead during early voting. Among those who have already cast their ballots she leads 68/29, and the race only gets closer overall because her advantage is a tighter 50/40 spread among those planning to vote on Election Day.

[Le Taz Hot]

12. 'Cause the laws just don't apply to the Clintons.

[Persondem]

37. NO LAW WAS BROKEN!! You people are just showing how foolish you can be.

[Le Taz Hot]

39. You're a Hillary supporter. You wanna run that "foolish" thing by me again?

[Persondem]

40. Ad hominen - what lame people do when they got nothing else

[Le Taz Hot]

41. I do appreciate good irony

"You people are just showing how foolish you can be."

[Persondem]

44. But I do not appreciate the never ending lies prepetrated by Sanders supports at DU

I have been countering them for nearly a year now.

You make yourself look foolish by aiding and abetting such lies.

YOU are one of those Sanders supporters who can see no wrong in Sanders nor no good in Clinton. Such shallow thinking serves no purpose other than to make YOU LOOK FOOLISH.

Also, you never have anything to really add to a thread. It's usually some crappy little hit and run post without a grain of thought behind it.

This OP is full of shit. Unless some one has actually verified that Clinton was within 25 feet of the polling place this is all just pro Sanders FOOLISHNESS.

I have been involved in NC politics for 15+ years, I even ran for office so I resent some out of state twit making shit up about Clinton yet AGAIN.

and you can stuff your little smug attitude.

[cwydro]

46. Well said.

I'm an NC voter too. There are always candidates at polling places.

Pathetic thread.

[FSogol]

47. +1. Totally agree. n/t

[Dem2]

17. I met her at a polling place

There was no issue at all, politicians do this all the time.

They usually don't stay for long and it's hardly a bother.

[Joe the Revelator]

20. Other than not being strictly legal. Sure.

No person or group of persons shall hinder access, harass others, distribute campaign literature, place political advertising, solicit votes,or otherwise engage in election‑related activity in the voting place or in a buffer zone which shall be prescribed by the county board ofelections around the voting place. In determining the dimensions of that buffer zone for each voting place, the county board of electionsshall, where practical, set the limit at 50 feet from the door of entrance to the voting place, measured when that door is closed, but inno event shall it set the limit at more than 50 feet or at less than 25 feet. Except as provided in subsection (b) of this section, the countyboard of elections shall also provide an area adjacent to the buffer zone for each voting place in which persons or groups of personsmay distribute campaign literature, place political advertising, solicit votes, or otherwise engage in election-related activity (N.C. Gen.Stat. § 163‐166.4).

[LanternWaste]

58. What specifically leads you to believe she was hindering access...?

What specifically leads you to believe she was hindering access, distributing campaign literature, etc.?

[Joe the Revelator]

59. solicit votes,or otherwise engage in election‑related activity in the voting place or in a buffer

This isn't rocket science man.

[awake]

62. in Raleigh NC CNN showed Hillary talk to the press outside of a polling place

in the background you could hear someone ask "can the press and Hillary please move out of the way"

[pinebox]

24. Screen cap

[onehandle]

27. Look at her. Grabbing voters and shoving them into voting booths.

[NCTraveler]

38. Looks great!!! Thanks for sharing!!! Nt

[Lizzie Poppet]

25. Bill's doing it, too, in Ohio.

Rules are for peasants...

[awake]

26. in Raleigh NC CNN showed Hillary talk to the press outside of a polling place

in the background you could hear someone ask "can the press and Hillary please move out of the way"

[mmonk]

30. .

[nc4bo]

52. Not cool guys, seriously. Bad enough voter ID laws are slowing down lines like hellfire.

It happened to me little while ago.

3 check in lines, 2 of them on a holding pattern for 30 minutes because of bullshit voter ID laws.

[Dragonfli]

31. ... I know the lyrics to this song. The Clinton's time is gonna' come

[NCTraveler]

34. #hillyes nt

[grossproffit]

63. #HillYES should have been her Twitter tag instead of #ImWithHer

[casperthegm]

36. I'll be voting here in NC soon

If I see her I'll ask her if she's brought her transcripts with her. Feel the Bern.

[unc70]

43. I do not remember any presidential candidate in NC on election day

We have sometimes had a presidential candidate come through the day before a primary, but I never remember one on the ground in NC on election day, working the crowd to get the local TV coverage. It doesn't seem consistent with a 20 point lead from public polling. While I expect her to stop later in Ohio and Illinois, it is interesting that she is still investing in NC.

[Waiting For Everyman]

57. There's no legitimate reason for her to be there.

And it looks mighty desperate. I sure hope it means she's about to lose NC.

[book_worm]

60. Good for her! Bernie should do it, too.

[Cheese Sandwich]

61. Bernie should send Cornel West on a speaking tour inside polling places.

He'll be arrested in like 10 minutes.