Ever notice the lack of discussion about Hillary's positions?

[pdsimdars]

I often see threads criticizing Bernie on positions he puts out. But rarely see this regarding Hillary.
I think that's because Bernie actually puts out clear positions that CAN be discussed, whereas Hillary puts out "impressions", and those keep changing, to mimic positions Bernie has been at for decades.

[HooptieWagon]

1. It's pretty difficult keeping up with the changing positions.

[calguy]

2. Ever notice how Bernie sounds more like a broken record?

Every problem has its roots with Wall Street.
Every solution will be solved by taxing Wall Street.
Any problem that can't be solved by taxing Wall Street can be solved by taxing everyone else!!
That's about as deep as it gets.

[ibegurpard]

5. It's called staying on message

And it works.

[calguy]

9. Staying on that narrow message

is not working when it comes to delegates won.

Time is not on Bernie's side.

[litlbilly]

16. are you someone who was blocked and made a new account? just wondering

[KPN]

14. Obviously you haven't really listened to him.

As for speaking consistently to the same issues (or broken record as you choose to belittle it), have you ever heard of foundations? Do you understand their purpose?

[NWCorona]

19. Just because you want to be selective doesn't make your point correct

The fact is he is talking about multiple things

Campaign finance
Restoring voter rights
Stopping the war on drugs
Climate change
National Infastructure
Income inequality
Education
Raising the minimum wage
Trade policy
Universal Health care
Along with other things

[casperthegm]

28. Wait, I thought Bernie was a one issue candidate?

I attended his rally here in Charlotte yesterday. He covered everything listed there and then some. Don't you love how the HRC supporters just buy into the one issue thing and keep regurgitating it?

[revbones]

3. They already get discussed by the Bernie supporter before she even repeats them...

And then only says to do incremental pieces.

[gcomeau]

4. For a lot of Clintons positions...

...her supporters would rather they *weren't* discussed... because it can be awkward as it becomes clearer and clearer what she's for and against.

[Matt_in_STL]

6. Her positions are very clearly discussed here

Months earlier when they were Bernie's positions.

[cosmicone]

7. There is no room for discussion

when the whole GD: P is full of RW and ultra left wing smears portraying Hillary as worse than the demon, satan, devil, Gengis Khan, Tamarlane, Pol Pot and Hitler.

Speaking of which, whatever happened to HA Goodman?

[calguy]

10. K & R!!!!

[Herman4747]

20. You want H A Goodman? You got him!

[Armstead]

22. Perhaps if issues were introduced without a lot of snark....

[KPN]

24. So a genuine progressive is today "ultra-left wing", eh?

That says volumes in itself. Third-wayers have really done a number on the Democratic Party -- and the middle class at the same time. You've had your chances. At most, all you've done outside the social issue arena is slow down the economic decline of the middle class in comparison to where the GOP would take it. Hillary's background, history and experience does nothing to assure her presidency won't just be more of the same. That's not good enough. Time to move on. If that's portraying Hillary as worse than Genghis Khan, sorry you feel that way.

[nichomachus]

25. Oh, please. Whoever said those things

except a Hillary groupie trying to deflect attention away from her many many faults snd failures?

They have have no arguments in favor of her -- but spend their time building straw men to knock over.

[JackRiddler]

29. It's the last stand talking-point.

"Sexist" failed, "racist" failed, "mean" failed, now all critique of HRC of any kind is fully manufactured VRWC. An important part of this is that NOTHING must ever be specified or they'll get bogged down having to defend specifics.

[LondonReign2]

30. I know! It is completely unfair! I mean, here is a person that stood up under Bosnian sniper fire

just so she could stand side-by-side with noted AIDs activist Nancy Reagan! How dare people have the effrontery to bring up her policy positions, don't they understand how much she has sacrificed?

[cosmicone]

35. All the responses above proved my point

There is nothing good to say about Bernie because everyone knows he cannot enact even 0.001% of all the promises he is making. They didn't fool astute voters.

All that is left is BENGAAAAZZZZZZZZZZIIIIIIIIIIII, this time from Sanders supporters. Some have even gone to rehash Vince Foster, Travelgate, Watergate, Gennifer Flowers and other RW memes. Oh -- and the "indictment is around the corner" which has no hope and prayer.

When Bernie loses and his supporters have had a time to reflect, all those attacks against Hillary and her supporters on the web will be the only haunting legacy of Bernie's life. That sucks but that is how history is written.

[MineralMan]

8. No, but I've noticed a lot of posts asking that question.

Please go to her campaign website. All of her positions are there for all to see.

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/

[SheilaT]

13. So why is it the Hillary supporters

never discuss her positions? Is it that even they can't keep track of them from day to day?

[MineralMan]

18. Here? There's little point to that, really.

Many have tried. The results have led others to simply not bother.

As for me, I'm not campaigning for Hillary during the primaries. I support her, but am not involving myself in arguments about it. It's not my thing. After the convention, I'll be supporting the Democratic nominee. I don't get personally involved in primary races within the party.

If you ask me who I support, I'll tell you it's Hillary Clinton, though. I believe everyone here is capable of looking up candidate's positions without my assistance.

[Buzz cook]

11. Have at it.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Hillary_Clinton.htm

Clinton has staked policy positions as a quick google reveals. Pick one and take it apart.

Here's the official site, but ignore that.
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/

[mylye2222]

12. Its because Bernie' s message is consistent

And from freed-of-self-interests backgrounds.
He is an outstanding candidate who works for the common good, not on behalf of friends/family interests.

[Ferd Berfel]

15. She has positions?

or momentary pauses?

[Else You Are Mad]

17. Because...

It takes a long time for Hillary to figure out which of Sanders stances do better with her focus groups.

[Carlo Marx]

21. No "free stuff" for you!

Hillary's college plan makes students work for their tuition and families must contribute what she designated as "fair".

Hillary's energy plan allows for continued fossil energy giveaways from public lands, no carbon tax.

Not much to talk about that's why she gives policy specifics quick mention and then goes into attack Santa Clause Bernie gear, and screw all you "deadbeats" language.

[Lorien]

23. They know her positions won't win them voters

so all they have is fear of her friend Trump and faux Feminism to run on. Bernie's campaign is one of hope and togetherness, Hillary's is a campaign of fear and shaming.

[KPN]

26. But!!!!!

I have put together a COMPREHENSIVE PLAN to address that issue!

[JackRiddler]

27. How could this discussion possibly help Clinton.

If you parse through the bullshit, she's got a number of pretty clear positions that dare not be spoken:

Wall Street will not be regulated seriously. Fracking and drilling will continue. Campaign finance reform and further health care changes will go under in a sea of blah-blah. The trade deals will be let through after cosmetic shows of "tweaking." No further opening to Iran or Cuba (if she'd been president neither would have happened). Confrontation with Russia. Neocons running the empire positions in her cabinet. Neoliberals running the domestic posts.

[JackRiddler]

31. Funny copycat tit-for-tat thread underway

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511496664

[ljm2002]

33. Thread is locked...

...and the OP self-deleted their post.

Looks like even the OP recognized they were full of... it.

[jillan]

32. Here is a great list of her positions -

[Motown_Johnny]

34. We try, but threads tend to last longer than her position on an issue. n/t