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Roland99

(53,342 posts)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 08:47 PM Mar 2016

Ugh. I feel sick. Probably going to be president Clinton

Great. A republican wannabe that won't do jack shit to wall st. Has yelled out that single payer will never happen. Spoke publicly not too long ago that marriage was between one man and one woman. Someone who was all for the TPP until several weeks ago.

Just. Ugh

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Ugh. I feel sick. Probably going to be president Clinton (Original Post) Roland99 Mar 2016 OP
No. If anything, it will be Trump. Barack_America Mar 2016 #1
^^that^^ onecaliberal Mar 2016 #4
Agree. It will be Trump. marew Mar 2016 #8
I agree. Skwmom Mar 2016 #10
Looks like. nt m-lekktor Mar 2016 #24
I agree. The US is toast. nt Zorra Mar 2016 #30
Foreign policy and national security will be at the forefront this election. grossproffit Mar 2016 #39
yes, yes it will n/t dana_b Mar 2016 #51
Yep. Clinton can't win. basselope Mar 2016 #56
This is what I believe. artislife Mar 2016 #58
There is an old Chinese curse... yuiyoshida Mar 2016 #65
We are, yuiyoshida, we are going to. nt artislife Mar 2016 #66
Don't worry it's going to be even worse.....President Trump. yourout Mar 2016 #2
Hillary has about zero chance of winning the GE Joe the Revelator Mar 2016 #3
Forgive me but you were wrong about Sanders catching on so maybe you're wrong about this, too. randome Mar 2016 #12
He started by having to catch up....And he did catch on.......Just not quite enough Armstead Mar 2016 #60
It isn't over yet. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2016 #5
So far she has only about 2/3 support from Democrats... TCJ70 Mar 2016 #6
The American people always TM99 Mar 2016 #7
Thank you for the grain of hope. jwirr Mar 2016 #15
Well, I am going to stay in my relatively sane state artislife Mar 2016 #59
Right marions ghost Mar 2016 #67
Truth. Shadowflash Mar 2016 #78
That makes two of us monicaangela Mar 2016 #9
Can't wait to tell people "I told you so." when she betrays jwirr Mar 2016 #11
She won't get the chance farleftlib Mar 2016 #14
I can still say "I told you so." because we were stupid enough jwirr Mar 2016 #20
That's the spirit! farleftlib Mar 2016 #45
I joined a movement - losing the nomination does not end jwirr Mar 2016 #47
The people have been betrayed by Third Wayers since Bill Clinton Broward Mar 2016 #31
Agreed. jwirr Mar 2016 #34
She can't betray us if you realize she is our political enemy jfern Mar 2016 #69
Oh, but she can and will still hurt us. jwirr Mar 2016 #72
Oh, the drama. PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #13
+1 CorkySt.Clair Mar 2016 #18
Classy. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #43
Thanks, your approval is like air to me. I need it to live. It sustains me. PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #50
Equally classy... Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #52
. PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #54
Bless your heart! Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #55
Perhaps you missed the post up at the top saying the result of the Democratic primary mythology Mar 2016 #63
That one about Clinton supporters being "fascists?" I urged the OP to delete it. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #64
Put a cold cloth on your head gwheezie Mar 2016 #16
It was always going to be Clinton bigwillq Mar 2016 #17
As opposed to President Obama who supported gay marriage for years? Or who is opposed to TPP? StevieM Mar 2016 #19
Hell to the No Roland99 Mar 2016 #21
Obama is a New Dem. TM99 Mar 2016 #27
I'm not sure what you're accusing me of lying about. Did you read my post? StevieM Mar 2016 #33
I have not drunk the Koolaid. TM99 Mar 2016 #35
Exactly Roland99 Mar 2016 #37
Think about all the good that that the ACA (Obamacare) has done for so many people. StevieM Mar 2016 #42
All the good the ACA has done for private insurance comapnies Roland99 Mar 2016 #44
Heck! marew Mar 2016 #40
Just FYI: chervilant Mar 2016 #62
Thank you. marew Mar 2016 #68
Don't feel too bad. Misery loves company Vogon_Glory Mar 2016 #22
What a kind compassionate post. We thank you. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #28
You're welcome Vogon_Glory Mar 2016 #36
haha JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #38
Actually you are right. Bernie told us that this fight was to jwirr Mar 2016 #48
oh, we will dana_b Mar 2016 #53
Nope. Shadowflash Mar 2016 #23
I feel wonderful. DCBob Mar 2016 #25
You're happy about president Trump? Wow basselope Mar 2016 #57
Oh please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! leftofcool Mar 2016 #73
Not in favor of long campaign seasons but this year... snowy owl Mar 2016 #26
Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #29
Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #32
She'll get destroyed in the GE. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #41
I honestly think she will not pull in enough Independents to win the GE. Bonobo Mar 2016 #46
Even worse, a hawk who beleives that the President Vattel Mar 2016 #49
She won't win in the general election. Skwmom Mar 2016 #61
NO! She just won her last victories! Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #70
LMAO! leftofcool Mar 2016 #74
Now that attitude from Clinton's supporters would make anyone sick. n/t Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #75
Better than President Trump! Demsrule86 Mar 2016 #71
Two words: "Sheldon Adelson." Miles Archer Mar 2016 #76
It's not over yet, Bernie's best states are coming up. peacebird Mar 2016 #77

onecaliberal

(32,861 posts)
4. ^^that^^
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 08:50 PM
Mar 2016

This country is full of complete stupidity. There is no compassion. No one cares about 29 million without healthcare, dead black children in the street at the hands of the police, working for slave wages, climate disaster... I could go on and on but, fuck....

marew

(1,588 posts)
8. Agree. It will be Trump.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 08:56 PM
Mar 2016

Trump and Clinton- two of the worst presidential candidates ever. And you know if Clinton ever became president she, in a heartbeat, would resume her Wall Street, billionaire, basically right-wing ideals. I have never seen anyone change positions faster than Hillary or have so many crazy gaffes in such a short time.

grossproffit

(5,591 posts)
39. Foreign policy and national security will be at the forefront this election.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:18 PM
Mar 2016

Unfortunately, Bernie is very weak in both areas.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
58. This is what I believe.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:09 PM
Mar 2016

At least, we will finally face our racism.

Lots of countries vote extremes, why should this country be immune. We are living through "interesting" times.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
12. Forgive me but you were wrong about Sanders catching on so maybe you're wrong about this, too.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 08:57 PM
Mar 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]You should never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
6. So far she has only about 2/3 support from Democrats...
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 08:51 PM
Mar 2016

...and not a majority of Independents. It won't be good for her in the GE at all. We're making a big mistake supporting her.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
7. The American people always
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 08:55 PM
Mar 2016

choose a real Republican over a Democrat pretending to be one every time. After eight years of a Democratic White House, the pendulum will swing to the right.

Party Democrats may hold their noses and vote against Trump by being forced to vote for Clinton, but independents and the youth will not. The youngsters will just stay at home. They will be fucked either way so why bother. A new Assassin's Creed will be out, or they will have finals before Thanksgiving, and they won't turn out at all. Independents will vote as we always do for the person that best represents us. It won't be Clinton or Trump so it will likely be the Green candidate.

I do think the handwringing is a bit premature. Sanders will gain delegates tonight, and no matter how many she wins tonight, she still will not have that magical number needed to win. The upcoming states lean far more progressive. NC & FL are both southern conservative states. I know, I grew up in NC and had some family in FL. Ohio is not progressive in the least. I went to college there. IL has not yet been called and the same is true of Missouri.

I am not going dark just yet thanks.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
59. Well, I am going to stay in my relatively sane state
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:14 PM
Mar 2016

for the next couple of years. This will light a fire under me to complete my transfer of my business to completely virtual. Hello Costa Rica!

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
67. Right
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 12:52 AM
Mar 2016

"the American people always choose a real Republican over a Democrat pretending to be one" -- I could not agree more. Especially this year.

monicaangela

(1,508 posts)
9. That makes two of us
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 08:56 PM
Mar 2016

I sincerely hope those that have confidence in her won't be let down if she wins the general.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
20. I can still say "I told you so." because we were stupid enough
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:03 PM
Mar 2016

to nominate her.

I am not out of this though. Until Bernie says we are through I am not through.

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
45. That's the spirit!
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:27 PM
Mar 2016

I'm going all the way to Philadelphia with Bernie and his supporters!!

I still have hope.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
47. I joined a movement - losing the nomination does not end
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:31 PM
Mar 2016

that movement. There are a lot of us who are dedicated to change and we need to keep that goal. Bernie kept it for 40+ years.

Broward

(1,976 posts)
31. The people have been betrayed by Third Wayers since Bill Clinton
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:08 PM
Mar 2016

but they just don't see it that way. Some will never catch on and it's why things will only get worse for most of us.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
63. Perhaps you missed the post up at the top saying the result of the Democratic primary
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:25 PM
Mar 2016

is making the poster sick. If you want to complain about a lack of class, perhaps you should start there. Or perhaps the post that was hidden calling Clinton supporters fascists.

People on both sides have acted in ways they should regret, but you only call out one side.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
64. That one about Clinton supporters being "fascists?" I urged the OP to delete it.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:28 PM
Mar 2016

Get off your condescending high-horse. Not remotely interested in it, m'kay?

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
17. It was always going to be Clinton
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:01 PM
Mar 2016

At least as the DEM nominee. She had the party behind her, the donors and a large chunk of voters behind her.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
19. As opposed to President Obama who supported gay marriage for years? Or who is opposed to TPP?
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:02 PM
Mar 2016

Or who fought tooth and nail for single payer?

How does your criticism make any sense unless President Obama is also a Republican wannabe? And I think it is silly to suggest that about our fine president.

If Hillary becomes our nominee why don't you give her a chance? Maybe she will surprise you.

For the record, I will vigorously support Senator Sanders if he is our party's nominee.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
27. Obama is a New Dem.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:05 PM
Mar 2016

He admitted it, and your lies here confirm.

Neither supported gay marriage for decades. Neither opposed TPP, the 'gold standard'. Neither fought for single payer ever!

I have known the Clinton Machine since the 1980's. I will never be surprised. I will never give her or him another chance.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
33. I'm not sure what you're accusing me of lying about. Did you read my post?
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:12 PM
Mar 2016

I thought I was being pretty clear.

President Obama isn't for single payer, took awhile to support gay marriage, and is for TPP. And yet I don't see how anyone can say that he is not a good Democrat, or that he is a Republican wannabe.

Have you forgotten about all the good that President Obama has done for this country?

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
42. Think about all the good that that the ACA (Obamacare) has done for so many people.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:21 PM
Mar 2016

Think about how the stimulus saved us from a second great depression.

Think about how he raised taxes on the wealthy.

Think about how the economy has improved so greatly, with unemployment falling from over 10 percent to under 5 percent.

Think about how he created the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

Think about how blocked the Ryan Budget and stopped the privatization of Medicare and Social Security.

And think about how appointed two great Justices to the hight court, including Sonia Sotomayer, who is arguably the best appointment to the Supreme Court in the last 60 years, since William Brennan was placed on the Court.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
44. All the good the ACA has done for private insurance comapnies
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:24 PM
Mar 2016

What disappointed me the most in Obama was as soon as he was in office he put a bunch of Bank of America execs in top economic spots and put Geithner at Treasury

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
62. Just FYI:
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:22 PM
Mar 2016
On Tue Mar 15, 2016, 10:07 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Heck!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1499661

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I guess some of the Hi11ary supporters are struggling with cognitive dissonance...

marew

(1,588 posts)
68. Thank you.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 03:22 AM
Mar 2016

Of course my post would be alerted- I would expect nothing less here. People want to keep their blinders on. They have bought into the cult of Hillary. Truth is the Hillary supporters worst enemy.

A few days ago someone posted an unfavorable Hillary comment made by someone who had been involved in government. The Hillary supporter called the person who had originally composed the comment a "right-wing" hack. I did the research and the person who had originally composed that comment regarding Hillary was a speech writer for Robert F. Kennedy.

When did the Kennedys and those who worked with them become "right wing" hacks? I was a kid when JFK and RFK were assassinated. How can a Hillary supporter say something so horrible? This is what we are dealing with!

I suspect "cognitive dissonance" is the kindest thing we could say about some Hillary supporters though many most likely have no idea what that term means.

Vogon_Glory

(9,117 posts)
22. Don't feel too bad. Misery loves company
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:03 PM
Mar 2016

Don't feel too bad; misery loves company.

Just think: although genuine Bernistas will be unhappy, so will the paid Koch-roach spammers deployed by the GOP and various right-wing fronts to pretend to be Sanders supporters who will see all their hard work and deceit undone by the American electorate.

Vogon_Glory

(9,117 posts)
36. You're welcome
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:16 PM
Mar 2016

And now a little question fr the newbies: do you have the determination and persistence to keep marching towards the prize a little over two years from now, or are you going to sit on your lazy backsides like the 2008 novelty voters and Gen-X voters whose indolence helped the Tea-Baggers so much in 2010 and most recently in 2014?

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
48. Actually you are right. Bernie told us that this fight was to
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:47 PM
Mar 2016

be just the beginning. And that it would take a long time to get where we wanted to go. So all of us who worked so hard for this candidate need to understand that in this election Bernie gave us a voice. In the 2018 election we need to rise up again and make sure we get as many true progressives into power as we can.

Do not drop out. In 68 when RFK was killed I wanted to never care again and then they followed it up with the 68 convention and I actually hated Humphrey. But my dad talked me into voting. Then I worked for McGovern and the damned establishment screwed us over again.

Bernie is the leader I have been waiting for but he does not have to be in the WH to lead us. Many of us have been following him for a long time. This is no time to quit.

And I ask all of you Bernie supporters who are in those states that have not voted yet to get out there an vote. Show her exactly how few of us are supporting her. Give it all you got.

Vote for whomever you want in the GE but continue this fight for Bernie.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
53. oh, we will
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:01 PM
Mar 2016

but you know that it will be worse now. The MSM will be spewing "why doesn't he just give up?" "She's inevitable, it's OVER!!"

That alone will deflate some enough not to vote or to just vote for her. Not me, but definitely some.

Shadowflash

(1,536 posts)
23. Nope.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:03 PM
Mar 2016

The people in this country are not going to vote in the consummate political insider who as issues with the truth in this change election.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
26. Not in favor of long campaign seasons but this year...
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:05 PM
Mar 2016

I wish Bernie had had more time. He's really just starting to become nationally well known. And I"m depressed as well. I don't think Hillary will win.

Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Response to Post removed (Reply #29)

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
41. She'll get destroyed in the GE.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:21 PM
Mar 2016

"President Trump"

Feel even sicker now? I sure do...

Not, mind you, that I disagree with you that Hillary would accomplish fuck-all for anyone other than her Wall Street friends.

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
46. I honestly think she will not pull in enough Independents to win the GE.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:29 PM
Mar 2016

This is a terrible mistake. She is too unpopular.

Unfortunately, I think it is more likely that you will see 4 years of President Trump.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
49. Even worse, a hawk who beleives that the President
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:50 PM
Mar 2016

has the power to put the nation in a state of war.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
76. Two words: "Sheldon Adelson."
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 12:17 PM
Mar 2016

He's kept his checkbook in the drawer, but now he's ready to start writing checks...for Trump. He also bought the most influential newspaper in the state of Nevada, the Review Journal.

If Hillary becomes the nominee, her treatment at the hands of the GOP will make Kerry's swiftboating look like a belly rub.

Every single piece of Hillary's dirty laundry will be trotted out for public display. Every time she "misspoke." All of it. 24 hours, 7 days a week, of Benghazi...and that's just for starters. And for anyone in her camp who feels like that's beating a dead horse, in the world of "Fox News Fans," it most certainly is not.

There will not be a cakewalk to the coronation, no matter how giddy sher supporters may be after last night.

If it's Hillary vs. Trump, he will destroy her by any means necessary. Count on it. He will follow the Lee Atwater and Karl Rove playbook. She will spend so much time on defense that she will have no time for offense. In the Super Bowl, the Bronco's defense won the game. In the election, it won't.

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