2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumEven one month ago, a 51/49 vote in Illinois would have been viewed as a disaster for Hillary.
The fact that Bernie is pulling these kinds of numbers now, and people are actually saying it's somehow a poor showing(!), really says how much things have changed. It's as if people *expect* Bernie to win everywhere now.
He's not there yet, but he soon will be. Check back in, in another month. In politics, one month is a lifetime.
Skid Rogue
(711 posts)Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)Math.
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hobbit709
(41,694 posts)RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)I've been doing politics probably since you were in diapers, and now because I want to make progress, still, you calling me a whiner and desire that I leave politics so you can have: what?
Your attacks on good democrats on this board are mere self serving and not conducive to good party unity or politics.
You remind me of a PUMA.
renate
(13,776 posts)so I won't pretend that a loss won't be depressing, but in absolute terms, he is WAY outpacing expectations.
As I've read elsewhere here tonight, Hillary has been essentially running (laying the ground game, raising money, making connections that weren't already made from Bill's presidency) since 2007. Bernie has such a powerful message that he has (except for the superdelegates) come very close to matching her performance with voters in a year. It's hella impressive.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)phony Bernie supporters on this board.
senz
(11,945 posts)And yes, the phony Bernie supporters are coming into view.
Both types suck mightily.
kath
(10,565 posts)didn't even think so today!!)
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)brooklynite
(94,552 posts)...that was a long time ago; he's a serious candidate now, and he needs to perform like one.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Bernie has run an honorable campaign and has nothing to be ashamed of.
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Hydra
(14,459 posts)Sanders was considered a non-player until MI. Now he is expected to carry huge victories, or it is a loss...that's a huge message shift. It is a sideways acknowledgement that he can win the GE.
Team Hill may not have meant it that way, but it is a hat tip to us and our candidate, and undermines the message that we need to move to the GE footing.
Game is still on.
MrBillIllinois
(2 posts)Though an outright victory would have been nice. But the reality is that Bernie went to Clintons' home state, beat her in her home county and walked way with nearly 1/2 the take. Polls failed once again. Victory for Sanders!
AzDar
(14,023 posts)AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)Michigan put up hopes only to be dashed, but truth is that noone was expecting it to be this close more than a week ago.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Clinton may well have had her last victories this night.
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)in upcoming states...
Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)I think this is a good time to lull the other side into a false sense of security -- that's when Hillary is likely to screw up again and next time it might be the campaign-ender. She might have already done it, but we might not have heard about it yet.
I heard on tv that she has already dropped her trade talking points. Too bad, Rust Belt, you won't count in a Hilly administration. Not that I believe she would keep any of her "progressive" agenda.