2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumMotherJones: The Cure to Hillary Clinton's Problem With Millennials? Donald Trump.
Clinton would crush the Republican front-runner among young voters
Hillary Clinton has struggled mightily to convince young Democrats to support her in her bid to defeat Bernie Sanders for the Democratic presidential nomination. The socialist senator from Vermont has dominated the under-30 crowd across the country so far in primaries and caucuses. When Sanders won the Michigan primary on Tuesday in a major upset, he carried the 18- to 29-year-old age bracket by an 81-18 percent margin. Even when Clinton wins a state handily, she struggles with young voters; Clinton won Virginia by 29 percentage points on March 1, but she lost young voters by 38 points.
But those lousy numbers likely won't carry over to the general election if she faces off against Donald Trump. A new poll from USA Today/Rock the Vote shows Clinton crushing Trump by a margin of 52-19 percent among voters under the age of 35. Almost a quarter of young Republicans would vote for Clinton, according to the poll. Young voters across demographic lines prefer Clinton to Trump, with African Americans favoring Clinton 67-5 percent.
http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2016/03/donald-trump-solves-hillary-clinton-problem-millennials
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)Vogon_Glory
(9,126 posts)Or after watching the Tea-publicans enact their hideous social and political agendas in places like Wisconsin, Kansas, Louisiana, and North Carolina, you're going to inform us that there is no major difference between the two parties?
djean111
(14,255 posts)The young are looking at war, "trade" agreements, high ACA and college costs.
What I am hearing - grandson is a redditor - is that she won't help with any of those things. That she kinda represents those things. So, no enthusiasm or incentive.
The condescending "Say hello to President Trump" isn't going to do it.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)And it is more for the reasons you say that they will be backing Clinton over Trump.
eridani
(51,907 posts)But they won't do anything else. Sad to see that the party will lose so many potential ACTIVE members.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)excited about someone who reminds them of their grandma, but they have Trump's measure and will go out and vote against him.
As for "losing" so many active members, they never were. That's a generational problem. That's also a problem that Bernie can still try to fix even if he has not succeeded so far. That's not on him by the way. On top of the usual voting irresponsibilities of young people, this generation has grown up in an era when pride in our government has been severely damaged by cynical, deliberate undermining and subversion by ultraconservatives intent on dismantling it.
djean111
(14,255 posts)Hillary is quite adamant that she does not represent "change".
I would venture to say that all of our angst and research and prognosticating is quite lost on most voters.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)But you're actually somewhat right about that last. Research has shown that neither Bernie or Hillary excite young people in general. They have opinions, but the enthusiasm just isn't there. Perhaps our nominee could choose someone who will turn 35 by election day For VEEP.
djean111
(14,255 posts)My grandson lives with me, is a redditor and a Bernie supporter. He voted, happily, here in Florida, for Bernie.
But - he says that he keeps hearing Hillary already won - and says if so, he will go back to not getting involved in politics.
The Democrats have been in power for eight years. Not much of anything good has happened for his generation. They don't play the D vs R game. There will be no enthusiasm for Hillary. And he already knows that a VP's job is just to bring in votes, settle ties, and go to dinners and funerals.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Here's condescension. Go read an intelligent book. Learn something new. Learn something real.
As for your grandson, I don't know if he inherited your attitude or just absorbed it, but maybe you can help him and yourself. I suggest reading about what the Obama administration has accomplished. You may refuse to be pleased and excited but you will apparently be surprised. Then be sure to tell him.
djean111
(14,255 posts)And, if you actually knew us, hilariously unfounded. But I feel no inclination to elaborate on that, to you.
In any event, did it ever occur to you that something that is "never a change" is true? Or do you expect everything to be Hillary-fied - changed according to the winds, to the polls, to the focus groups?
Oh, and 'bye, and thanks for confirming some things for me!
djean111
(14,255 posts)and supports Bernie - of me in any way, shape or form. Today I turn 70. If I asked him if Hillary reminds him or me he would just snort.
Bernie is 74. They love his message. They are not so shallow as to be ageist or sexist, much as some would like to dismissively label them as such.
Segami
(14,923 posts)that Orange Crush Trump will NOT be their nominee.
So, whats plan B for flawed, high untrustworthy candidate Hillary if another repub is picked?
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I think it's clear he will be.
Segami
(14,923 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)Persondem
(1,936 posts)Unless he shuts up and lets the GOP attack machine take over which might give him a chance. But no way Trump goes quiet and plays nice.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I agree that Trump is going to scare a lot of people to the polls, but wouldnt now be a good time for the candidate- who we are told is our presumptive nominee- to do a little campaign self-reflection and examine some specific issues and policy points by which she could actually motivate this very large demographic to affrirmatively come out and vote FOR her, instead of just "against the other guy"?
Cobalt Violet
(9,905 posts)So he says anyway.
Broward
(1,976 posts)That should get them excited.