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femmedem

(8,203 posts)
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 07:32 AM Mar 2016

On DKos, a Clinton supporter hopes Bernie stays in it all the way. Here's why.

"...Bernie has a lot of important ideas, and those ideas need to be heard. I want to hear his ideas from candidates in the future. At the very least, the Democratic Party needs to be on notice about economic inequality and the student debt crisis. We need to respect our roots as a party for people that work for a living (in addition to being a party for a lot of other groups) or we’re going to be in trouble. My support for Clinton exists because of issues I care about that aren’t related to economic inequality, as well as her stance on financial regulation. But that doesn’t mean that I think that Bernie is somehow wrong. In a lot of ways he’s right, and we must recognize that, and must take him, his supporters, and his ideas seriously, especially if Clinton wins the nomination...."

"...The Democratic Party must not make the same mistake we’ve made in the past. We cannot act as if the people who are backing Bernie don’t matter. In fact, we need to adopt a lot of Bernie’s policies as standard party policy..."

"...If Bernie has lost the primary by the time it gets to DC, I might seriously consider casting a tactical vote for him as a Clinton supporter because I want him and his ideas taken seriously. I want the Democratic Party to pay attention to the issues that he, and his supporters, are raising, even though he’s my second choice. In that circumstance I’ll get to vote for Clinton in November anyway, so I’ll have been able to support both of the candidates that I genuinely like..."

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On DKos, a Clinton supporter hopes Bernie stays in it all the way. Here's why. (Original Post) femmedem Mar 2016 OP
That's nice, but all the DNC really wants is Bernie's supporters, and any money he can turn djean111 Mar 2016 #1
+1 (sadly) InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2016 #9
I am going to get a kick out of having somebody from the DNC or Clinton campaign BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #10
+1 dana_b Mar 2016 #18
sanders should stay in, but I predict a change in his tone beachbum bob Mar 2016 #2
You know that guys like me are done with Hillary, right? Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #3
"You know that guys like me are done with Hillary, right?" NCTraveler Mar 2016 #17
here's the thing dana_b Mar 2016 #19
Thank you for that reasoned reply. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #20
That's the only problem I have with his campaign. He should have exposed her a long time ago. johnlucas Mar 2016 #4
These statements have always baffled me: TCJ70 Mar 2016 #5
Agreed. I do not understand it either. femmedem Mar 2016 #6
I think it's complete bullshit, a patronizing attempt to bring Bernie supporters on board BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #11
it's all about talking, not doing MisterP Mar 2016 #14
A plea for holding the party together marions ghost Mar 2016 #7
Oh, today will be half condescension and sneering, and half "party unity" bullshit. djean111 Mar 2016 #12
Yep marions ghost Mar 2016 #13
I agree. DCBob Mar 2016 #8
These types of OPs are pathetic and way too late. riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #15
I have made the case that he must stay in until the convention. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #16
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
1. That's nice, but all the DNC really wants is Bernie's supporters, and any money he can turn
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 07:37 AM
Mar 2016

over to them. Hillary and the DNC would continue to ooze to the right on the Third Way carpet made of money.
Because they honestly believe "who else are they gonna vote for".

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
10. I am going to get a kick out of having somebody from the DNC or Clinton campaign
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 08:58 AM
Mar 2016

contacting me because I have been a contributor to Bernie's campaign and telling them to fuck off.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
18. +1
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 02:02 PM
Mar 2016

I intend on stopping the donations IF we get to a place where I am sure that he hasn't a snowball's chance.

I don't want those vultures getting one penny of my money. Although if he goes back to the Senate, I will still donate to him for his campaigns. I've been doing it for 8 years now. Why stop??

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
2. sanders should stay in, but I predict a change in his tone
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 07:38 AM
Mar 2016

he brings much to the table that we need to have discussions about and will only make hillary a stronger candidate in November

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
3. You know that guys like me are done with Hillary, right?
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 08:03 AM
Mar 2016

The lesser of two evils is still evil and - in this case - a silent homophobe. I am not voting for that, no matter how many bogeymen are heading the GOP ticket.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
19. here's the thing
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 02:04 PM
Mar 2016

people don't want to talk about her homophobia nor her racism. They are more subdued. Harder to catch except for her blatant disregard of the LGBT community in the 90s and the whole super predator/anti BLM displays. However both Trump and her are bigots. She is just more wily about it.

 

johnlucas

(1,250 posts)
4. That's the only problem I have with his campaign. He should have exposed her a long time ago.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 08:07 AM
Mar 2016

He went too nice.
He should have hammmered home the Rahm Emanuel connection for Illinois.
No more time for holding back the knives.
It's time to GUT her campaign.

You can be positive & forceful at the same time.
Hit her on her record because that's all you will need to do to stop her.
John Lucas

P.S.: Oh by the way. There ain't gonna BE no Hillary in November.
Bernie or Bust.

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
5. These statements have always baffled me:
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 08:11 AM
Mar 2016

"Bernie has a lot of important ideas, and those ideas need to be heard", "In fact, we need to adopt a lot of Bernie’s policies as standard party policy", "I want him and his ideas taken seriously"...

...Then why is this person a Hillary supporter? Her stance on financial regulation is what they say, but in the very next sentence go on to say that they don't think Bernie is wrong. It's just weird.

femmedem

(8,203 posts)
6. Agreed. I do not understand it either.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 08:16 AM
Mar 2016

Just speculating, but what I hear locally from people who like Bernie's ideas but support Hillary or are torn is that they want more specifics from him or don't believe he can win in November.

But what do I know? I vote for the person whose policies I support.

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
11. I think it's complete bullshit, a patronizing attempt to bring Bernie supporters on board
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 08:59 AM
Mar 2016

with Hillary for the general election.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
7. A plea for holding the party together
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 08:20 AM
Mar 2016

I expect to see a lot of that.

The rest of the article is worth reading to see how it's going to be kum ba yahed.

In fact--early warning about Kum Ba Yahs ahead....get ready...feels like driving into fog...

If you get to the end of this article at the link--tell us if you buy that this writer is going to consider voting for Bernie...

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
12. Oh, today will be half condescension and sneering, and half "party unity" bullshit.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 09:15 AM
Mar 2016

Worded either very crudely, or lyrically and flowery.
I pass on both.
I rarely do ignores on individual posters, but today seems a good time to start.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
13. Yep
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 09:19 AM
Mar 2016

this is the lyrical, flowery stuff. With the hook of, "I might vote for Sanders."

Even the Hillary supporters should see through this line right now.

Maybe later, MUCH later.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
15. These types of OPs are pathetic and way too late.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 01:59 PM
Mar 2016

I really can't wait for HRC to get her hands on Bernie's donor list and they receive 4 million plus "fuck you's" when they run their first attempt to grab some $$$. I'll laugh along with my fuck off, send off.

You HRC supporters simply do not get it.

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