Can the whole "stick a fork in him" thing please just stop?

[Ken Burch]

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It's petty, it's ugly, and it makes it hard for anything like "unity" to ever be created...assuming your candidate does get nominated.

I'm one of the people who will be spending a lot of time arguing that Bernie supporters should vote HRC in the fall, if she is nominated, and the "stick a fork in him" meme is going to make our jobs very difficult.

[HooptieWagon]

1. It's OK. We can use 'Stick a fork in her' when an indictment drops.

[grasswire]

7. Justice. nt

[AtomicKitten]

17. x 100000

[cosmicone]

18. It is not going to happen. However, keep swinging at the windmills. n/t

[Betty Karlson]

22. The above post, including offensive fork, was brought to you by

the Clinton campaign's Democratic party reunifying effort. Praise Nancy!

[msanthrope]

24. For you.....

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[Scootaloo]

28. it's a weathervane, actually.

[synergie]

37. Yup, no pettiness here./s

[Scootaloo]

40. Nice series of posts on your transparency page there, guy

So nice of Skinner to leave the door open for you!

[synergie]

55. I've seen yours too, how lucky for you that your fellow BSers share

that vitriol and ugly pettiness that so many of you BSers, including the ones I was responding to have no problem with hypocrisy or actual nastiness.

I think it's cute that your history is actually far worse than mine, but that you think you have some sort high horse to stand on.

Oops, you forgot that your posts were visible to those of us who were alert stalked into silence by the mob, didn't you?

Oh dear.

[Scootaloo]

67. Cool. maybe you learned something

Especially about the rampant islamophobia on DU.

[synergie]

73. I sure did, about the rampant hate fostered by hypocrites on DU.

And about just how much racism, sexism, misogyny and sheer right wing vitriol is applauded and rec'ed by certain folks here, and how they gang up on anyone who dares to disagree and how they protect the vilest of posts from being hidden.

I certainly did learn about where the hate, pettiness and vitriol comes from here. And I see who recs these things, and who cheers it on and who does not.

[bravenak]

82. Me too.

[Scootaloo]

84. No doubt

here you are reccing a post copy-pasting from a neo-nazi hate site.

NCTraveler
baldguy
treestar
Nitram
Gothmog
MohRokTah
highprincipleswork
bvar22
Dawson Leery
Douglas Carpenter
bravenak
giftedgirl77

Fascinating, Cajunblazer rings the "red Jew" bell, and look who comes to dinner

[bravenak]

87. I am reccing the opinion of the op

[delrem]

103. But the post had a caveat:

"Again, I am not writing this to smear Bernie - I believe non of it - I am just pointing out the political sewage which will be directed at Sanders."

So it isn't a neo-nazi smear piece, it's just pointing out the neo-nazi smear and saying it's a reason to jettison Bernie Sanders.

Can't you just feel the love?

[Number23]

93. Well said.

[stonecutter357]

111. +1

[840high]

49. You must be very, very young.

[Peace Patriot]

75. No, no, no! Please do NOT use violent language...

..or images for a political purpose! Please, please don't.

I lived through the assassinations of John Kennedy, Martin Luther King and Robert Kennedy.

These murders still hurt. The hurt is as deep as it can go. And millions of people still feel this hurt. We were deprived of all three of our greatest leaders in the space of five years.

But more than this, we now have an opposition candidate, Trump, using violent language and inciting violence. Do NOT contribute to it!

Our candidates are in danger. Supporters are in danger. This kind of language can unhinge unstable people.

Please. PLEASE.

[John Poet]

97. "Stick a fork in her, FBI recommends indictment".

Yeah, that would work for me.

[left-of-center2012]

2. Agreed !

The more mud dumped on Bernie and supporters the harder to sing kumbaya in November.

[peacebird]

3. Too much crap has already been thrown by Hill and her surrogates. Blatant lies& misrepresentations

There will be NO kumbaya moment.

[synergie]

43. Too many bricks and too much BS originiating from BS and his supporters you mean.

Yes, the blatant lies, misrepresentations and the nastiness exhibited in the GD-P, twitter, FB and other venues online, will make it difficult for you, since we're well aware of where the BS has been coming from and not dumb enough to forget it.

Either you vote Blue or vote Trump, either passively or actively, that's your choice, don't expect reality or the nastiness to be forgotten. The numerous misogynistic tantrums, the lies and the hate is well documented, so don't expect it to be forgotten and don't hold your breath to be courted after all that.

[Politicalboi]

60. What have you been watching?

BS is the Queens specialty. Been that way for decades now. You just don't want to see it. We will NOT come together. The Clinton's are the one's to blame. Cheating is another specialty they have. I will NOT support those that cheated us. You can be suckered but not all of us will be. I just hope an indictment is coming soon. She we can stick a fork in her she's done.

[synergie]

38. Mud dumped BY BS and supporters right? FIFY

[upaloopa]

39. Threats and intimidations again?

Nobody is buying it. Your time controlling this board has run it's course.

[synergie]

59. They can't silence people, but that doesn't stop them from carrying on as before.

It's like they don't know that their nastiness has been on public view!

[upaloopa]

64. Their nastiness has not helped Bernie.

Months and months of running us off and nasty posts about Hillary and they are the losers.

I am not going to shed any tears over them.

[left-of-center2012]

70. "Your time controlling this board has run it's course"

[upaloopa]

80. I don't need to but thanks.

sitting here in sweats and a t shirt quire comfortable.

[grasswire]

4. it's not like they are convincing anyone

It's just wasted effort. Trying to quash this righteous progressive movement is NEVER going to work.

[Faux pas]

5. I'd write him in before

I'd EVER vote for you-know-who.

[vintx]

14. +1

[MFM008]

101. Trump?

because thats who will win if we dont vote blue. TRUMP. Hes the big winner and everything you care about goes down the toilet anyway.

[Hiraeth]

105. Trump is not yet the nominee of the R party either. All of this is just empty rhetoric at this point

[mikehiggins]

108. As a Sanders supporter I think it is much more likely that Trump will get indicted, not HRC.

Whatever the truth is about the private server, the basis for an "indictment" seems pretty bogus to me. What the discussion is about is the possible misuse of email. It isn't as if HRC ran off to sell the "secrets" to all our enemies.

I agree with Bernie; I'm tired of hearing about all those emails.

Trump, on the other hand, is a real estate developer from Manhattan. If HRC's people can't dig up unprecedented tons of damning info on him they deserve to get dumped.

[peacebird]

109. +1

[passiveporcupine]

6. It's not OK to use gloating terminology, or demeanor, in an important contest like this

Real people have real feelings involved here, and no matter which side wins, the winner should be courteous and understanding that the other side are "human" too.

Please knock it off.

[pat_k]

8. Hear, hear!! (nt)

[libtodeath]

9. Hope they are willing to own everything in the course of time.

[spooky3]

10. I'm a Hillary supporter and I agree with you.

Feelings are raw. No need to make things worse right now.

[Ken Burch]

12. Thank you. n/t.

[Warren DeMontague]

11. Some people apparently have very little to do with their time and minds, besides go "neeener neener"

I can think of a few personalities on this board whose entire career of contributions to the discussion on this site would disappear if we didn't have rofl smileys an' shit.

[DanTex]

13. How about we stop the "corporatist oligarch Weathervane" thing?

[cosmicone]

19. ^^^ THIS ^^^^

Plus fracking, Goldman Sachs, corrupt, untrustworthy etc. etc. BS

[Betty Karlson]

23. If only it were BS.

It's not. It's on record.

By the way, you 'forgot' about the silent homophobia, which is another part of why I don't ever want to vote for her.

[synergie]

44. It is BS, the record tells a different story. By the way, the "silent homophobia"

you speak of , is also not part of reality. And if that's your goal, then you can't vote for BS either, since he put state's rights over LGBT rights and is on record stating that outright.

Not voting Blue in November is a vote for the rather loud homophobia, just sayin'.

Also, note that it's been Hill supporters who have been all about the "vote blue no matter who" segment here, with the BS supporters who have made that statement attacked, abused and mobbed in the nastiest, pettiest, most ugly ways.

[Betty Karlson]

46. Always so grateful for straight people telling me when to feel concerned and when not.

Us little gays don't understand what homophobia is, so it's a good thing that you strong heterosexual men and women are there to decide for us.

[synergie]

52. Awww, it must so nice to be so psychically gifted that you can discern sexual preference

over the internet, this must be the level of fact based information gathering that leads to such false claims about the record and denial of reality.

That's so cute, how you just demonstrated exactly how much hate and vitriol you use to pretend that your assumptions and your role as victim are justified when facts, reality simply don't support you.

Nope, it's you who doesn't seem to know what homophobia is, or where it's present on the record, even when it's explained to you, making sweeping generalizations about LGBT people and assumptions of ANYONE's sexuality is something that those who are interested in facts and not playing the victim, while slinging the sexual preference based hate don't do.

Or are you just demonstrating what heterophobes and fact-phobes and reality-phobes do when faced with facts and reality that they both hate and are terrified of?

Way to make assumptions, us little folks who like facts, and loathe the lies, really do understand what and where the phobia is and where it's coming from, too bad the sources seem to be blithely unaware of the vitriol and hate they spew.

[Betty Karlson]

57. May I refer you to to this thread and reply here?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1474965

[synergie]

63. You personally attacked me here, based on assumptions you made about me.

I don't care about what other threads you wish to refer to, it does not excuse the vitriol in your post and the petty ugliness embodied in it.

Sorry, but deflect, distract and deny won' t work for you here. You have no leg to stand on. You behaved in just the way you claim other do, you made assumptions on sexual preference based on nothing and attacked. You are not the victim here, you are the attacker.

Must I refer you to your assumptions, your hate and your attacks, or can you scroll up on your own?

[Betty Karlson]

66. assumptions: you assumed I don't know what homophobia is.

hate / attacks: you are the one calling me all manner of names. All I did was use sarcasm.

[tokenlib]

72. you can't suppress the truth..

And if the linkage between Clinton foundation contributions and political favors gets ignored it will be a big surprise.

[Blue_In_AK]

15. *** ******* is a provocateur.

I started to mention a name, but I don't want to be accused of calling someone out.

[silvershadow]

16. there might be full of themselves aren't they?

there might be full of themselves aren't they? several virtual ties and several primaries and caucuses with monkey business and somehow she is the air apparent already

[synergie]

47. Well, after losing badly, barely winning even with the deliberate monkey business

(what with data stealing, FEC violations, lying about endorsements, harassing unions etc. etc.) and DEMANDING that the person leading in delegate counts and the popular vote step down so that the choice of temporary party members may be coronated, one group is certainly projecting how full of themselves they are.

And no she's not the HEIR apparent, she's the likely nominee, due to the other guy simply failing to get the votes and the pledged delegates, and who is now planning on interfering with those evil superdelegates, who two days ago were suberting the will of the minority by supporting the will of the majority.

The lack of self awareness is amusing, sad, but amusing.

[dchill]

62. "temporary party members ..."

I think you'd better check yourself. I've been here almost 12 years. A lot of us have, and we have FULLY developed bullshit detectors.

[synergie]

68. I think you'd better check YOURself and the GD-P over the past few days,

where so many of your friends stated that they were indeed not Democrats and were leaving the party after the primaries. It would be really nice if the BS detectors were functional, but the GD-P, the alert stalking, the jury nonsense, the clear ratfcking, the recs on right wing sources and right wing smears, and the sheer nastiness directed against ANYONE, even fellow BS supporters belies your claims that BS detectors were working.

Check yourself and the threads and the posts, see what was hidden, what was left and calibrate that BS detector, checking yourself is a good thing to do, especially when emotions are running high and reality doesn't match up to what one wishes it were. You actually have to USE those supposedly "fully developed BS detectors" when you ignore them because you like the BS, what use are they?

Kinda like smoke detectors when you enjoy the fire and the siren, not much actual use.

[onecaliberal]

102. Listen up- I AM a life long dem, have voted straight ticket my whole life, NEVER

Miss any election. I am one of those people. You might think you know what you're talking about, clearly you don't. The corporate party left me long ago, i will just make it official. My moral code prevents me from remaining.

[nadinbrzezinski]

20. They do not want unity

many of them actually want you to go away.

Which is kind of obvious given the party realignment under way. It makes sense.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news...

[passiveporcupine]

25. Unfortunately, you are right

Many of the establishment Dems would like to see the whole left/progressive side of this party drop off the edge of the earth.

I wish it weren't so.

[synergie]

27. Many actual Dems and progressives are well aware that the vitriol and the hate

is not coming from any part of the party or actual progressives.

[passiveporcupine]

29. there is plenty of hate coming from the progressive side

That is what happens when you are continuously disenfranchised.

[synergie]

35. There is certainly a lot of hate, but when you're "disenfranchised" becuase you

refuse to vote when you don't get your way, or you're convinced that "they're all the same", you're the only one responsible for your disenfranchisement.

The hate that's being roiled up here is not from the progressive side, so much of it is quite literally Right Wing in nature, word and origin.

[passiveporcupine]

54. We are not disenfranchised because we won't vote for HIllary

We are disenfranchised as if we are not dems, because the only person in the race that is not a sell out is Bernie and he's an Independent.

But Bernie, the Independent is more of an FDR democratic and progressive than Hillary.

And we are continually reminded he's not a DEM...he's a socialist. LIke it's an ugly label. It is not. It's the label this country needs.

Well, I hate to tell you, but the dems in the race are not dems either. They are neocons and bluedogs and they may pretend to have socialist views when it comes to social issues, but when it comes to economic issues, they are true Republican light.

[synergie]

71. Disenfranchised means that you are not allowed to vote, not that

you don't get your way. Bernie has indeed sold out on quite a few issues, and he's pretending to be a Democrat, if he wanted to stay as Independent, he should have run as one, but he sold out for the attention and the money. He admitted as much.

Yeah, such an FDR democrat that he votes against the stuff he put into existence to help trade, like the Ex-Im bank right? Hillary the Democrat is an actual progressive and is in line with progressive and Democrats in 2016, it's why she keeps winning delegates and voters.

He's the one who keeps reminding us that he's a socialist, he just added that Democratic stuff recently because attention and money. This country doesn't agree that we need a socialist, they don't see his plans as actually being feasible and he keeps failing to actually answer questions about how he intends to get things done, you can blame this on supposedly ugly labels he applies to himself, and excusing him when he sells out be it to the NRA, the Gun manufacturers , etc. but the country is rejecting him and his label.

I hate to tell you that there is only one Dem in this race, and she's really Dem, she's not switching labels for attention and money, and just because you've decided to apply false labels such as "neocon" for the sole purpose of trying trying to be ugly, it doesn't make them so.

When it comes to pinning ugly labels on people, it seems that people have a little problem with understanding labels, relying of facts and differentiating between their own rhetoric and propaganda and the truth.

[passiveporcupine]

76. We are disenfranchised as not being part of the Dem party.

They claim we don't count. Even though many of us are true blue Dems. Probably most of us.

[passiveporcupine]

50. ???

Are you denying that progressives here have been nasty?

[synergie]

32. Funny how "they" are the only ones who have been asking for and demonstrating

party unity. What realignment? Have you been paying attention to the posts on GDP? All the folks who admitted they only joined the party to vote for BS, and were leaving if they didn't get their way?

Non-Democrats are going back to being Libertarians etc., they have no say about the party. I hate to be the bearer of facts, but there is not much interest in actual unity from the people here who have been making truly nasty comments about bricks and dishing out the ugliness and the pettiness and the abuse. It's why so many were being tombstoned for their Trump advocacy.

The projection is awesome here.

[nadinbrzezinski]

65. Actually one has been happening for two generations

the realignment started in 1984 and accelerated in 1992

It is fine, this is the nature of US Politics. This is not projection, it is a fact. Once the dust settles, you will see.

By the way, it is called political science. Since you were kind of nasty, I am returning the favor.

Oh and by the way, the GOP is also undergoing massive changes I PREDICTED many of the changes we are undergoing over ten years ago, but here is a useful article..

http://inhomelandsecurity.com/commentary-the-sixth-political-party-realignment-and-the-end-of-the-gop/

Here is another useful article, by the way the FDR realignment gave way to the Johnson coalition, which gave way to the Clinton coalition, which has drifted the party rightward.

http://history.house.gov/Exhibitions-and-Publications/BAIC/Historical-Essays/Keeping-the-Faith/Party-Realignment--New-Deal/

The only thing that both politics and physics abhor is a vacuum though. So if people feel the Dems are abandoning them... (and the GOP is going away, which will pull the party further right), we will see a party emerge. Yes, this one is that serious.

i hope you learn something and chiefly stop psychoanalyzing people online.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

118. +a brazilion! nt

[me b zola]

21. Poopy heads act poopily

That's what they do.

[synergie]

26. Can the whole double standards thing just stop?

This board has been filled with ugliness, hate, pettiness and abuse for months now. You want unity? You're going to have to work for it, just like you've been demanding that Hillary supporters do for some time now. Assuming your candidate somehow defies math, reality and common sense, just how do you plan on getting us to forget the sheer slimy nastiness that has been the rage with BS supporters? Remember that little "brick" comment that so many of you so delightedly rec'ed?

He's pretty much done now and come November, those who wish to stop pretending they're liberals are welcome to vote for whomever they choose, from the sheer level of hate and vitriol displayed, demonstrated and encouraged here, they were not voting Blue in any case.

You seem to forget the weeks and months of "memes" and hate that has been present here, including in your own posts. Vote for the qualified candidate, if you cannot do that, it's not our jobs to "convince" you do to the smart thing, that's a choice you will make for yourself, do not expect us to forgive or forget what has been going on here, and what has been said. You want unity, you work for it, just as you demand we do, and you may do so with full knowledge that we're very aware of exactly where the petty, ugly, nastiness has come from and who has been cheering it on.

[Ken Burch]

98. There aren't any conservatives supporting Bernie here in some sort of plot. n/t.

[upaloopa]

30. Can the intimidations and threats stop?

We are winning. We are happy. That comes from winning. No we are not going to stop.

You can do what you want. I have spent months on time out vacations reading your nasty posts and now it's time for you to stop.

Bernie cannot win the nomination. It is time to pivot to the general.

[JimDandy]

106. It's our turn now. We will be winning. We have been happy with Bernie for the last year

but now we will be extremely happy especially over these next several weeks. That comes from knowing we're on the side of righteousness and that we'll be winning.

No, we are not going to stop. You can do what you want. I have spent months reading yours and many other Hillary supporters' nasty posts and now it's time for Hillary to 'get stuck with the fork'. Yeah, that's some more nasty Hillary supporter sentiment just out today.)

Of course Bernie can win the nomination! We've been canvassing, phonebanking and donating to get to this point. It's almost here. We're going to enjoy it--all the way to the convention.

Go Bernie!

*imitation is the sincerest form of throwing it back at you.

[Kalidurga]

31. They can keep it up.

They love violence and violent imagery. I can't blame them for that. You should see my movie playlist. But, I rarely speak like that to or with other people anymore. I am old and calming down. I don't know about Hill supporters though, they don't seem to be doing the calming down thing.

[Logical]

33. No one can be banned now so no downside to being snarky. nt

[cherokeeprogressive]

78. So true... Too bad they didn't reinstate everyone in exile from Castle Bansalot though. nt

[ebayfool]

91. Yeah, that's the biggest change I can see today.

I swear it's like somebody opened the doors and boom! Bile everywhere!

[asuhornets]

34. But he is DONE....n/t

[Waiting For Everyman]

36. That's what passes for wit.

It's a very low bar.

[stonecutter357]

41. unity?

[panader0]

42. Where's Sid?

[NobodyHere]

45. I wonder what Bernie supporters would be saying if he had a commanding lead right now.

I doubt they would be any nicer than Hillary supporters.

But still all the ugliness should stop.

[cherokeeprogressive]

79. I bet none of them would have a dead bird with a fork sticking out of its chest in their sig line.

[passiveporcupine]

48. The sheer nastiness?

just how do you plan on getting us to forget the sheer slimy nastiness that has been the rage with BS supporters?

I never saw that thread, and yes that is disgusting. I've called out lots of nasty behavior from the Bernie group. I don't often see anyone from the Hillary group doing the same.

Yes, there has been sheer nastiness from teh Hillary group, from day one of Bernie running.

But for some reason, some of you think it's only coming from one side.

I just don't get it. You don't even see what is coming from your side.

[nadinbrzezinski]

89. Well personally I was told

to my shock mind you, that I was truly born in fly over country, and was not born in Mexico, or was a Jew, or was a self identified latina. You think I will forget, or chiefly forgive those folks? Oh and I do have a list of them. Oh and those were HRC supporters

Best part is, I am not a BS supporter. I frankly don't give two shits who the Democrats nominate, but I worry about November. If I have to explain why... well suffice it to say... if my worst fears are realized...

[John Poet]

100. They see it. They'd just rather promote a lying meme,

as well as a lying candidate. They seem to like the lies.

Probably comes from trying to find too much "common ground" with Republicans.

[UMTerp01]

51. Agreed

While Hillary Clinton supporters have taken the brunt of a lot of negative Hillary Clinton threads, its so unnecessary to be petty right now. Sanders has made her a better candidate and there's no denying that.

[Politicalboi]

53. So visiting polls and lying about Bernie

Deserves our vote in Nov? This is different this time. I don't like that they cheat, so I can't support them for cheating us. Supporting her if she is the nominee is saying we forgive her and her "husband" for cheating us out. I will not be part of that. They blew it.

[Vattel]

110. My feelings exactly

[Maru Kitteh]

58. As a Hillary supporter, K&R

I've seen some nasty graphics on the other side too but you know what? That doesn't make it okay unless you are in the third grade.

Truth is, I question the legitimacy of the most tacky offenders on both sides. Seems like it would be considered a "noble quest" of little cheetos-fueled sub-terrainian trolls who tuck themselves in beneath Confederate flag bedspreads in the basement of their momma's slightly-neglected suburban home.

[Still In Wisconsin]

61. The winning side gets to twist the knife.

I've been Bernie from day 1, but you have to expect this when you lose.

[tokenlib]

77. And when they expect the vanquished to fall in line?

Maybe not this time.

[corkhead]

69. I didn't see any of that so I will say this:

Fuck everybody on my ignore list.

[BainsBane]

74. People are just as angry when we express congratulations on a good campaign

I tried and was met with insults, the kind of insults that have been the very basis of the arguments against all of us who dare to believe we have a right to vote as we see fit, just as they expressed about great swaths of the Democratic electorate. Unfortunately, far too many have little regard for the rights of anyone who disagrees with them and are all too certain they are the only people fit to make political decisions. They have the audacity to claim democracy is dead because THEY didn't get their pick for the nominee, as though their rights trump the majority's, as though democracy is defined by rule by a small minority of voters over the rest. Perhaps if they hadn't spent the last several months insulting everyone who dared to ask questions about their candidate or express any dissent, they might have had more success. But ultimately displaying an entirely unjustified sense of superiority proved to be more important than any issue or goal, even Bernie's political success.

[Still In Wisconsin]

83. To be fair, your "congratulations" message also had a graphic that rubbed it in on Bernie supporters

You won, so you get to twist the knife. But let's be honest about what you really expressed.

[azurnoir]

81. NO let them keep going with it and every other nasty attack meme they can think of

let that represent Hillary's supporters

[nadinbrzezinski]

90. My list will grow

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And I do not mean of ignored

Since there was a jury. Simply put I learned my lesson. Ignore is abused. So I simply have a list of folks I have little to none interaction. It keeps those who otherwise bully in check

[azurnoir]

92. yep

[William769]

85. You fucking crack me up!

"It's petty, it's ugly, and it makes it hard for anything like "unity" to ever be created...assuming your candidate does get nominated."

You should have thought about that before you started posting this primary season.

[LWolf]

86. There isn't going to be any unity. nt

[1StrongBlackMan]

88. I kind of agree that the "stick a fork in him" posts ...

makes it difficult for you to talk to die hard "we still have a chance, despite the math" Bernie supporters.

But are you talking the math to the die hard "we still have a chance, despite the math" Bernie supporters.

The "stick a fork in him" posts are in response to the Hail Mary crew.

[NuclearDem]

94. "go fuck yourself with a brick" and "hit her with a 2x4"

Glass houses and such.

[Ken Burch]

95. That was a couple of posters, not Bernie himself.

And some of us alerted on those.

[NuclearDem]

96. I don't recall Hillary ever saying "stick a fork in him" either.

So since we seem to just be talking about what supporters have said, I'll mention those are the ones I could think of just off the top of my head.

Which is exactly why these new pleas for civility are so utterly laughable.

[grossproffit]

112. There you go making sense.

The selective outrage is staggering.

[Lil Missy]

99. Sure, it can stop when the personal attacks on HRC and her supporters stop.

Never.

And realistically, he is done, so "stick a fork in him" is an appropriate analogy. It's just reality. His supporters choose to take it personally.

[highprincipleswork]

104. The sad thing is that we are in very serious trouble as a political party!!!!

I mean, the alternative is likely Donald Trump.

But Bernie doesn't get the support that those of us who love him think he deserves. You cannot argue reasonably that his campaign has been treated fairly by either the DNC or the MSM.

Hillary is seen by many outside observers to be a terrible candidate to run against Trump, and that seems patently clear to me also, although not apparently to the average Democratic voter.

Then there is the great distaste that supporters of each side have for each other, the difficulty in mending fences, the difficulty in enlisting supporters from the losing side to not only vote for the other candidate but to volunteer, donate, etc. - all the things that make for a successful campaign.

Really curious how we are going to run a successful Democratic campaign.

Should have started with a more robust debate schedule and a welcoming inclusion of all candidates. Now, presuming Hillary continues to score majority victories, really should include not just lip service to the Progressive fervor that Bernie has brought to the campaign for Democrats and Independents alike, but a full-scale and authentic adoption of Progressive policies moving forward. Frankly, that is the only way that I see Hillary (if it is in fact going to be Hillary) to move forward and win.

[SidDithers]

107. No...nt

Sid

[UglyGreed]

113. Burning bridges

and telling lies are a HUGE turnoff.....but IMO it is in their nature and why they follow someone who is most like themselves, they can not help it.

[Tanuki]

114. The hypocrisy....it berns......

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280114273

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511163234#post2

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511048408

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511018138#post10

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=599241

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=599241


(Just a small sample)

[SidDithers]

117. And boom goes the dynamite...

Sid

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

115. Let 'em gloat. They'll be whining about the the Left that voted "other" if she loses.

As usual.

[Walk away]

116. Really???

This place never changes!

[MohRokTah]

119. After the months of crap hurled by BernieBros?

After all the alert stalking?

After the months of nastiness and personal attacks from the Sanders side?:

Are you fucking kidding me????











I'm spiking this fucking football and wallowing in the gloating pride of my candidate's win.