2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum42.5%.
That is the percentage of remaining pledged delegates that Hillary needs to win.
I have a post in the Hillary group detailing how the percentage math works. It's pretty outdated, since it didn't account for Hillary winning quite so many delegates this last Tuesday, and I also know that many of you Bernie supporters can't stomach going into the Hillary group, so I'll redo it here. Watch the two numbers in bold.
At present, Hillary has 1,139 pledged delegates, and Bernie has 825. Hillary's lead is 314 delegates. 2,087 pledged delegates remain to be allocated, and Hillary needs 887 of them. 887 into 2,027 is 42.5% of remaining delegates. (I'll just say delegates instead of pledged delegates from now on.)
Suppose both Hillary and Bernie hit their demographic targets next Tuesday, which means Bernie gets more than Hillary from those three states. Hillary will have 1,196 delegates, and Bernie will have 899. Hillary's lead is 297 delegates. 1,956 pledged delegates will remain, and Hillary needs 830 of them, or 42.3% of remaining delegates.
Ditto the March 26 elections. Hillary will have 1,257 delegates, and Bernie will have 980. Hillary's lead will be 277 delegates. 1,814 delegates will remain, and Hillary needs 769 of them, or 42.3% of remaining delegates.
Ditto Wisconsin and Wyoming. Hillary will have 1,300 delegates, and Bernie will have 1,037. Hillary's lead will be 263 delegates. 1,714 delegates will remain, and Hillary needs 726 of them, or 42.4% of remaining delegates.
Ditto New York on April 19, which demographically favors Bernie. He will have 1,162 delegates, and Hillary 1,422. Hillary's lead will be 260 delegates. 1,467 delegates will remain, of which Hillary needs 604, or 41.2% of remaining delegates.
Do you see the pattern?
Hillary does not win a single day between now and New York, but the percentage of remaining delegates she needs either holds steady or decreases. Of course it's possible that Bernie will exceed demographic expectations in a given state, but if you look at the history, you'll see that it's more likely that Hillary will beat the target in a given state. In other words, the actual numbers for her will likely be better than I'm projecting here.
LexVegas
(6,080 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Chichiri
(4,667 posts)Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)livetohike
(22,156 posts)Koinos
(2,792 posts)That's why they are allegedly inquiring how to flip already pledged delegates and superdelegates.
Of course, something unexpected might happen to cause a veritable tsunami of big wins and delegates for Sanders.
And the Sanders campaign still has plenty of cash for ads and GOTV efforts.
tritsofme
(17,387 posts)Koinos
(2,792 posts)Their "leaked" strategies have embarrassed Sanders more than once.
He should have hired a better team.
Chichiri
(4,667 posts)Bleacher Creature
(11,257 posts)bobbobbins01
(1,681 posts)They should probably not bother with the second half. Why waste any more of the fans time? They only paid good money for the tickets and refreshments. Fuck em.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)If they were truly confident, they would have no problem with Old Uncle Bernie staying in the race until the convention.
Chichiri
(4,667 posts)Then what would you think?
Codeine
(25,586 posts)He can win every race from here on out and will still almost certainly be unable to cover the delegate deficit he's incurred.
bobbobbins01
(1,681 posts)And many fans still weren't sure which team they wanted to win, and many fans were still making their way to their seats.
And that your ratio of 4-3 was entirely dependent on those fans...Seems like a whole lot of factors that could influence the game. And influence it enough to let it play out until the end.
vintx
(1,748 posts)Some people here are deeply invested in avoiding cognitive dissonance.
bobbobbins01
(1,681 posts)From now on every time I see a post that pisses me off from a Clinton supporter, rather than waste time responding, I'm going to spend an additional 10 minutes phone banking. I have a feeling I'm going to stay pretty busy.
Chichiri
(4,667 posts)It's over. Okay? It's just plain over.
bobbobbins01
(1,681 posts)Please proceed.
Chichiri
(4,667 posts)brooklynite
(94,658 posts)bobbobbins01
(1,681 posts)Seems like that's what you're saying...keep their morale low so they'll back down...nice.
Chichiri
(4,667 posts)That seems reasonable to ask.
bobbobbins01
(1,681 posts)But thanks for the advice.
Koinos
(2,792 posts)But voters change their minds more slowly than a team moves on the field.
bobbobbins01
(1,681 posts)I don't have the exact number, but he tends to gain around 10 points in that final week alone.
Koinos
(2,792 posts)The Sanders GOTV is still coming up short (spring break or whatever).
This is like a football team that almost wins every game. Eventually, they run out of games in the regular season.
And, apart from Vermont (definitely) and maybe New Hampshire (to some extent), we haven't seen a blowout win.
Maybe that will all change, if Weaver and Devine stop doing counter-productive things. I wish Sanders had picked a better pair of coaches.
The Ides of March were a fizzle for the Sanders team. They spent lots of money and came up short.
I am not rooting for either team (for different reasons); but I will vote my self-interest and support whichever becomes the nominee.
brooklynite
(94,658 posts)MineralMan
(146,320 posts)She'll win other large states as well. Next Tuesday, she'll likely increase her delegate lead. AZ has many more delegates grandmother of the other two states. People who think she will lose PA, NY and NJ, for example are fooling themselves.
There's a lot of wishful thinking going around.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)and not convincing a single Sanders supporter to give up.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)to finally put him on Ignore.
Chichiri
(4,667 posts)Maybe more, but I only know about the one. They contacted me privately. FWIW.
surrealAmerican
(11,362 posts)She could still focus her energies on the Republicans, knowing her lead is safe. She might even get a bit of extra exposure if she wants to do another debate or town hall with Sanders.
The longer we can keep the Republicans focused on one-another, the better. They are tearing themselves to shreds - let them. Don't try to focus them more on Hillary instead. That will only make them stronger and give them some sense of unity.
Even if I weren't a Sanders supporter, I would not think declaring a primary victory now would be a good idea.
Chichiri
(4,667 posts)...would lead to an incredible PR shitstorm.
surrealAmerican
(11,362 posts)That would be a big mistake. All she would have to do is wait.