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SHOCK Reuters Poll: Among Millennials, Bernie 70%, Hillary 22% (Original Post) reformist2 Mar 2016 OP
Minorities. Most of us dont trust your guy. nt LexVegas Mar 2016 #1
Obama needed BOTH in order to win. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #10
Minorities dont trust Sanders. Never will. Sorry. nt LexVegas Mar 2016 #13
Young voters don't trust Hillary. Never will. Only I'm not sorry. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #21
HRC will win. With her Berniebro marginalized minorities. Scoreboard. nt LexVegas Mar 2016 #22
"Berniebro" Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #34
I would like to think Bernie isnt doing it, just lots of his supporters. nt LexVegas Mar 2016 #37
Such a gutter campaign you are running jfern Mar 2016 #50
Maybe he should've come to the ghetto since that's where all of us live? giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #26
You should speak for yourself, instead of trying to speak for all the "minorities" Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #24
Go say that in the "kids love Bernie" threads. nt LexVegas Mar 2016 #27
So flipping condescending. HerbChestnut Mar 2016 #30
Not the Hillary is evil...Confederate minority threads, huh? nt LexVegas Mar 2016 #31
The Ignore list is your friend. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #35
I have to admit, I finally gave into it HerbChestnut Mar 2016 #38
Prior to un-Trashing GD: P a few weeks ago, I had five names on my Ignore list. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #40
because............? nt grasswire Mar 2016 #28
Oh cool a spokesperson for all minorities. BlindTiresias Mar 2016 #44
Young people aren't turning out to vote for Sanders. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #23
Adults. Most of us have had experience and thought it thru. Nt seabeyond Mar 2016 #14
Good response tactic of "Hey look over there" revbones Mar 2016 #56
If only we lived in Children of the Corn... DanTex Mar 2016 #2
. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #12
If only they actually voted. . . Bleacher Creature Mar 2016 #3
Bernie is down by almost 3 million actual votes Renew Deal Mar 2016 #4
That's the only demographic he is capturing.Too bad he can't motivate them to livetohike Mar 2016 #5
That's simply untrue. Karma13612 Mar 2016 #19
Web poll. Buh bye. nt Chichiri Mar 2016 #6
It's hard to compete with free college...just saying lunamagica Mar 2016 #7
So why doesn't Hillary support free college? johnnyrocket Mar 2016 #60
Didn't you see Sanders backpedaling from free college on the last town hall? lunamagica Mar 2016 #61
The dismissive attitude of Hillary supporters toward millenials is the real shocker. tk2kewl Mar 2016 #8
Winning is the only thing that matters to them. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #11
She's likely to tank the brand tk2kewl Mar 2016 #16
After the likely November bloodbath, there will be HUGE changes. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #25
No. Getting a Democrat with her feet on the ground, the experience and credentials, the seabeyond Mar 2016 #18
You must be talking about Elizabeth Warren right? litlbilly Mar 2016 #51
I haven't done the research on warren and she doesn't have nearly the experience. seabeyond Mar 2016 #57
so did? past tense? what the fuck is wrong with you people? I will pick good judgement litlbilly Mar 2016 #58
Wtf is wrong with people that prefer making informed decisions? Really? You are really arguing that? seabeyond Mar 2016 #59
If you weren't as informed as you assume you are, you would never know. JudyM Mar 2016 #63
I haven't heard Hillary be dismissive of millennials. Jitter65 Mar 2016 #15
Why didn't she join Bernie in his Ohio suit? tk2kewl Mar 2016 #29
oh and for the record... tk2kewl Mar 2016 #62
Not exactly a shock, though, is it? Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #9
Which is why he's winning! grossproffit Mar 2016 #17
Considering she's winning the popular vote by over 2.5 million NuclearDem Mar 2016 #20
Righto! 2 1/2 million Bible Belters. Wow. And in red states where she WILL NOT win in GE. Land of Enchantment Mar 2016 #32
She won Florida by over 500,000 votes. Ohio, over 150,000. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #36
Experimental or theoretical, nuclear?nt Land of Enchantment Mar 2016 #64
just wait till after the west coast votes, CA, OR, WA, Bernie will leave Hillary in the dust with litlbilly Mar 2016 #52
Yes, Sanders will win California. Obviously. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author litlbilly Mar 2016 #55
Millennials can enlist for the coming wars. JEB Mar 2016 #33
And then come home to a VA health sys--oh. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #39
Or a flag draped coffin. JEB Mar 2016 #41
Ah ha! I see, it's been umpteen-dimensional chess all along. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #43
We've got enough veterans needing care from the last fifty years of wars. JEB Mar 2016 #46
No, I'm talking about Senator Bernie Sanders NuclearDem Mar 2016 #47
Droves have been killing themselves and VA has problems. JEB Mar 2016 #48
Quite a few people, as it turns out. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #49
I'd vote for Paul Rieckoff over Hillary/ Kissinger. JEB Mar 2016 #54
Her campaign has no ground game. JackRiddler Mar 2016 #42
Damn Spring Break!! redstateblues Mar 2016 #45
 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
21. Young voters don't trust Hillary. Never will. Only I'm not sorry.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:21 PM
Mar 2016

They have an actual reason (okay, dozens of them) for mistrust. Minorities and Sanders? Nope. His record is decades long and exemplary. Not trusting him on matters of civil rights is irrational.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
34. "Berniebro"
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:41 PM
Mar 2016

Ah, thanks for the heads-up...you're one of those.

Jesus, my Ignore list is getting big...

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
26. Maybe he should've come to the ghetto since that's where all of us live?
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:26 PM
Mar 2016

That's how well he knows minorities.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
24. You should speak for yourself, instead of trying to speak for all the "minorities"
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:24 PM
Mar 2016

Individual people vote for whoever they want. No ethnic or racial group in this country is a monolith.
 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
30. So flipping condescending.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:36 PM
Mar 2016

It's posts like yours that make this forum downright unpleasant sometimes.

 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
38. I have to admit, I finally gave into it
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:44 PM
Mar 2016

I've never liked the idea of using the ignore list, but these past few weeks have been almost unbearable. I like coming to this forum to get up to date campaign news and maybe have a healthy discussion on the issues, but that's not often what gets posted here anymore.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
40. Prior to un-Trashing GD: P a few weeks ago, I had five names on my Ignore list.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:50 PM
Mar 2016

Over thirty now...

I dun screwed up...should have left it Trashed.

BlindTiresias

(1,563 posts)
44. Oh cool a spokesperson for all minorities.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 11:04 PM
Mar 2016

How are you doing? Is it difficult to literally represent all minorities and speak for them considering it is such a broad group? Very impressive!

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
23. Young people aren't turning out to vote for Sanders.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:23 PM
Mar 2016

And if you think they're going to turn out in droves to vote for Trump in the general, then I can't help you.

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
56. Good response tactic of "Hey look over there"
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 11:42 PM
Mar 2016

Really provides relevance and thoughtful commentary.

Bleacher Creature

(11,256 posts)
3. If only they actually voted. . .
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 09:42 PM
Mar 2016

And I'm pretty confident that the GOP will do a great job pushing the ones that do vote back into the Clinton camp by November.

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
19. That's simply untrue.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:21 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie has plenty of older voters, and lots of female voters.

I'm 62, female, college educated, but not well off economically.

He speaks directly to my values and goals for this country.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
61. Didn't you see Sanders backpedaling from free college on the last town hall?
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:23 AM
Mar 2016

Last edited Fri Mar 18, 2016, 04:41 PM - Edit history (1)

When pressured to answer how he would pay for free college, he said he had never advocated for free college and took a position much closer to Hillary.

This after months of promising it.

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
8. The dismissive attitude of Hillary supporters toward millenials is the real shocker.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:13 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie has similar numbers with everyone under 40 and indies.

CNN Michigan exit poll

Under 45
Sanders 65%
Clinton 32%

Indies
Sanders 71%
Clinton 28%

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
25. After the likely November bloodbath, there will be HUGE changes.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:24 PM
Mar 2016

I'm not a Democrat...but I would l love to become one again (I initially registered that way as a wide-eyed 18-year-old). When it comes to its senses and stops being a center-right, slightly-saner alternative to a GOP that's lost its fucking mind...and not a moment sooner.

Actually, I guess I technically am a Democrat right now: switched from Independent to vote in my state's closed primary.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
18. No. Getting a Democrat with her feet on the ground, the experience and credentials, the
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:21 PM
Mar 2016

intelligence and ability to get things done matters to us.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
57. I haven't done the research on warren and she doesn't have nearly the experience.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:06 AM
Mar 2016

At first glance she looks good but so did Sanders. I would have to educate myself and hear a hell of a lot more from here before she gets my vote.

 

litlbilly

(2,227 posts)
58. so did? past tense? what the fuck is wrong with you people? I will pick good judgement
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:07 AM
Mar 2016

over your so called experience any day.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
59. Wtf is wrong with people that prefer making informed decisions? Really? You are really arguing that?
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:10 AM
Mar 2016
 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
15. I haven't heard Hillary be dismissive of millennials.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:19 PM
Mar 2016

She said even if they were not for her she was for them. Stop making up stuff.

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
29. Why didn't she join Bernie in his Ohio suit?
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:33 PM
Mar 2016

Why isn't her campaign pushing voter registration on college campuses?

http://www.alternet.org/story/73782/hillary_clinton's_dirty_campaign_tactics

And in Iowa, the Clinton campaign -- with the help of the state's largest newspaper, the Des Moines Register, which endorsed her -- was discouraging students from returning from winter break to vote, even though their right to do so was legal, said Rick Hasen, who writes a respected election law blog. "Indeed such voting could help to compensate for the otherwise anti-democratic nature of Iowa's role in the presidential election process," he said.

I check what she does and doesn't do and compare that to what she says. I've learned not to just take Hillary's word for things

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
62. oh and for the record...
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:27 AM
Mar 2016

i just reread my post that you replied to... i didn't even say Hillary herself was dismissive... i said her supporters were being dismissive

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
9. Not exactly a shock, though, is it?
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:15 PM
Mar 2016

No way young voters are going to turn out for Hillary in November.

Bloodbath.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
20. Considering she's winning the popular vote by over 2.5 million
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:21 PM
Mar 2016

I'd say her ground game is doing just fine.

Sanders, on the other hand, seems entirely dependent on the most fickle voting blocs in the country.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
36. She won Florida by over 500,000 votes. Ohio, over 150,000.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:42 PM
Mar 2016

Virginia, over 225,000.

Did you just somehow forget that those are enormous states up for grabs in the general election?

 

litlbilly

(2,227 posts)
52. just wait till after the west coast votes, CA, OR, WA, Bernie will leave Hillary in the dust with
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 11:32 PM
Mar 2016

those votes you talk about.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
53. Yes, Sanders will win California. Obviously.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 11:38 PM
Mar 2016

He's been so wildly successful with large urban centers so far, so he's got the second-largest one in the country in the bag.

Response to NuclearDem (Reply #53)

 

JEB

(4,748 posts)
41. Or a flag draped coffin.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:52 PM
Mar 2016

We're going to need lots of canon fodder, er I mean patriotic young soldiers to enforce greed of the empire and keep the corporatate profits high.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
43. Ah ha! I see, it's been umpteen-dimensional chess all along.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 11:02 PM
Mar 2016

That explains why he's let the VA health system fall off a fucking cliff and why he has no substantive veterans affairs policy platform--it's just the preamble to his presidency where no more wars happen ever! The first step to a world with no veterans is simply ignoring the ones that do exist.

I'll be damned, it's brilliant!

 

JEB

(4,748 posts)
46. We've got enough veterans needing care from the last fifty years of wars.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 11:07 PM
Mar 2016

Are you talking about President Obama?

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
47. No, I'm talking about Senator Bernie Sanders
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 11:12 PM
Mar 2016

who, in his most recent day job as chair of the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee, repeatedly downplayed problems with the VA health system while people were screaming bloody murder and my brothers and sisters were killing themselves in droves, instead of, you know, doing his job.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
42. Her campaign has no ground game.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:56 PM
Mar 2016

Against an insurgent campaign, and with no other establishment candidate, the Clinton campaign has the long-standing Democratic Party machines on the state and city levels. These are big, experienced, well-funded -- bigger than a ground-game that an insurgent campaign must build from scratch. It's incredible Sanders has done this well. And he will only do better, as long as people do NOT buy into the voter suppression and discouragement effort that the Clinton campaign has turned into its core message.

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