2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSHOCK Reuters Poll: Among Millennials, Bernie 70%, Hillary 22%
It's amazing how few young people support Hillary. How does her campaign have any ground game without young people????
http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TR131/filters/RESP_AGE:-99
LexVegas
(6,063 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Hillary has one. The problem is obvious...
LexVegas
(6,063 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)They have an actual reason (okay, dozens of them) for mistrust. Minorities and Sanders? Nope. His record is decades long and exemplary. Not trusting him on matters of civil rights is irrational.
LexVegas
(6,063 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Ah, thanks for the heads-up...you're one of those.
Jesus, my Ignore list is getting big...
LexVegas
(6,063 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)That's how well he knows minorities.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Individual people vote for whoever they want. No ethnic or racial group in this country is a monolith.
LexVegas
(6,063 posts)HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)It's posts like yours that make this forum downright unpleasant sometimes.
LexVegas
(6,063 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Seriously...life is too short to bother with that sort of inanity.
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)I've never liked the idea of using the ignore list, but these past few weeks have been almost unbearable. I like coming to this forum to get up to date campaign news and maybe have a healthy discussion on the issues, but that's not often what gets posted here anymore.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Over thirty now...
I dun screwed up...should have left it Trashed.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)BlindTiresias
(1,563 posts)How are you doing? Is it difficult to literally represent all minorities and speak for them considering it is such a broad group? Very impressive!
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)And if you think they're going to turn out in droves to vote for Trump in the general, then I can't help you.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)revbones
(3,660 posts)Really provides relevance and thoughtful commentary.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Bleacher Creature
(11,256 posts)And I'm pretty confident that the GOP will do a great job pushing the ones that do vote back into the Clinton camp by November.
Renew Deal
(81,859 posts)So a lot more need to show up
livetohike
(22,143 posts)to vote.
Karma13612
(4,552 posts)Bernie has plenty of older voters, and lots of female voters.
I'm 62, female, college educated, but not well off economically.
He speaks directly to my values and goals for this country.
Chichiri
(4,667 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Last edited Fri Mar 18, 2016, 04:42 PM - Edit history (1)
johnnyrocket
(1,773 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Last edited Fri Mar 18, 2016, 04:41 PM - Edit history (1)
When pressured to answer how he would pay for free college, he said he had never advocated for free college and took a position much closer to Hillary.
This after months of promising it.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)Bernie has similar numbers with everyone under 40 and indies.
CNN Michigan exit poll
Under 45
Sanders 65%
Clinton 32%
Indies
Sanders 71%
Clinton 28%
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Go favorite brand! Go!
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)I'm not a Democrat...but I would l love to become one again (I initially registered that way as a wide-eyed 18-year-old). When it comes to its senses and stops being a center-right, slightly-saner alternative to a GOP that's lost its fucking mind...and not a moment sooner.
Actually, I guess I technically am a Democrat right now: switched from Independent to vote in my state's closed primary.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)intelligence and ability to get things done matters to us.
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)At first glance she looks good but so did Sanders. I would have to educate myself and hear a hell of a lot more from here before she gets my vote.
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)over your so called experience any day.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)JudyM
(29,248 posts)Jitter65
(3,089 posts)She said even if they were not for her she was for them. Stop making up stuff.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)Why isn't her campaign pushing voter registration on college campuses?
http://www.alternet.org/story/73782/hillary_clinton's_dirty_campaign_tactics
And in Iowa, the Clinton campaign -- with the help of the state's largest newspaper, the Des Moines Register, which endorsed her -- was discouraging students from returning from winter break to vote, even though their right to do so was legal, said Rick Hasen, who writes a respected election law blog. "Indeed such voting could help to compensate for the otherwise anti-democratic nature of Iowa's role in the presidential election process," he said.
I check what she does and doesn't do and compare that to what she says. I've learned not to just take Hillary's word for things
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)i just reread my post that you replied to... i didn't even say Hillary herself was dismissive... i said her supporters were being dismissive
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)No way young voters are going to turn out for Hillary in November.
Bloodbath.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)I'd say her ground game is doing just fine.
Sanders, on the other hand, seems entirely dependent on the most fickle voting blocs in the country.
Land of Enchantment
(1,217 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Virginia, over 225,000.
Did you just somehow forget that those are enormous states up for grabs in the general election?
Land of Enchantment
(1,217 posts)litlbilly
(2,227 posts)those votes you talk about.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)He's been so wildly successful with large urban centers so far, so he's got the second-largest one in the country in the bag.
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JEB
(4,748 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)JEB
(4,748 posts)We're going to need lots of canon fodder, er I mean patriotic young soldiers to enforce greed of the empire and keep the corporatate profits high.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)That explains why he's let the VA health system fall off a fucking cliff and why he has no substantive veterans affairs policy platform--it's just the preamble to his presidency where no more wars happen ever! The first step to a world with no veterans is simply ignoring the ones that do exist.
I'll be damned, it's brilliant!
JEB
(4,748 posts)Are you talking about President Obama?
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)who, in his most recent day job as chair of the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee, repeatedly downplayed problems with the VA health system while people were screaming bloody murder and my brothers and sisters were killing themselves in droves, instead of, you know, doing his job.
JEB
(4,748 posts)Including years of under funding. Who better than Senator Sanders?
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/defense/259677-bernie-sanders-champion-of-vets
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Paul Rieckhoff is a champion of veterans. Bernie Sanders isn't.
JEB
(4,748 posts)JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)Against an insurgent campaign, and with no other establishment candidate, the Clinton campaign has the long-standing Democratic Party machines on the state and city levels. These are big, experienced, well-funded -- bigger than a ground-game that an insurgent campaign must build from scratch. It's incredible Sanders has done this well. And he will only do better, as long as people do NOT buy into the voter suppression and discouragement effort that the Clinton campaign has turned into its core message.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)That's the only thing that kept the big crowds Bernie drew from voting.