2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumObama NEVER backed Clinton at private fundraiser (Bloomberg)
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Let me translate: Just another pathetic example of The New York Times advocating for Senator Clinton and working diligently as the PR and marketing arm of her campaign. I mean...seriously. Who needs to hire a PR firm to help you garner positive media support when you have The New York Times making up shit for you?
What a disgrace the NYT has become! The "Gray Lady" has gone dark.
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"President Obama in fact didnt privately tell donors last Friday the party must soon come together to back Hillary Clinton, White House Press Sec. Josh Earnest tells reporters.
New York Times reported on Obamas comments to donors
I was there for the fundraiser, and I was there when the comments occurred: Earnest
Obama said that as Democrats move through this competitive primary process, we need to be mindful that our success in November in electing a Democratic president will depend on the commitment and ability of the Democratic Party to come together behind our nominee: Earnest
Earnest declined to say whom Obama voted for in the Ill. primary
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/trackers/2016-03-17/obama-didn-t-back-clinton-at-private-fundraiser-earnest
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Will do and say anything to win.
Boo for more lies. ..eerr misspeak.
jillan
(39,451 posts)I give President Obama more credit than that.
TalkingDog
(9,001 posts)That puts him back on the somewhat ethical side of the ledger.
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)was caught in the crossfire of the usual Clinton power-play antics, and the White House was forced to stepped forward and say, "Oh no he di'nt!"
Seems like the Clinton machine sometimes gets away from itself. They've got The New York Times and the mucky mucky millionaire Dems in Texas all in line--they simply don't understand that it's uncool to make up shit that Obama says.
Seriously.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)But media is fully compromised. Oh and they want Trump. Let me correct, not reporters, board rooms
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)The New York Times is willing to take the word of a few Hillary supporters who insist on remaining anonymous, and then quote those anonymous sources and use them for the BASIS of an article.
RIP NYTimes.
Pretty sad that shit they NYTimes engages in antics that were disavowed as unethical and unprofessional at my college newspaper.
Now, the White House spokesperson comes out to say that those anonymous sources were full of crap.
Nice.
kristopher
(29,798 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Infiltration of papers. Project Mockingbirg morphed after the Church Committee. This strikes far more as editors putting pressure on reporters because they are getting it from above.
Miller was slick.
This is way sloppy
kristopher
(29,798 posts)amborin
(16,631 posts)JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)Multiple threads pushing the lie stay on top. Maybe you should rewrite the headline to put Obama's name first?
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)it signals that the DOJ will be clearing Hillary of wrongdoing very soon. ...After all, why would Obama try to galvanize the party around a candidate who might be indicted?
SERIOUSLY.
Glad that the White House stepped forward to let us know that those anonymous sources were wrong and that The New York Times article was bunk.
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)Sorry, it's just my intuition and observation speaking, but felonies of this kind are snacks to most of these people on the inside at the top. This one doesn't particularly impress me, next to the daily crimes of state. (I know that most of those are "legal," of course, and Bush Co. committed a lot more of them.)
If it's Trump for the Republicans, she will not be indicted before the election.
If it's Kasich, she may well be - FBI is pretty right-wing territory and for some reason Kasich is now considered the "safe" path to potential nuclear wars.
If Clinton loses to Sanders, you'll probably never hear about any of this again.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)when you categorize felonies like these as "snacks." We all know that nearly all of the players are probably guilty of much, much worse. I'm sure "dirt" is the glue that holds this corrupt system together.
With that said, I'm shocked that there is an investigation. Given that they're all most likely corrupt, how did the email-server situation ever rise to the level that it has?
I will never believe that she will be held accountable. I just find the chain of events odd.
Why have this slow leak of information, as well? They want the public to know that her IT dude has been granted immunity. They want us to know that the hacker, who originally discovered the emails between Clinton/Blumenthal, has been extradited to the U.S.
This is an investigation. They don't have to release that info. But they are. Why?
Furthermore, Josh Earnest, during a press conference said that he had been in contact with DOJ officials who told him that Hillary Clinton was not a target of the investigation. Immediately, Lorreta issued a statement--saying that she was disappointed in the White House comments and that she would hope that they would refrain from commenting about an ongoing investigation. Two days later, Lynch does Colbert and reinforces the same message. Colbert flat out asked her if Hillary would be indicted and Lynch said that she could not comment. She said that her job was to keep the public safe and enforces the laws and that her office would be doing this, independently.
So. It's not NOTHING that is going on. So, what is going on?
AzDar
(14,023 posts)Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)Good!
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)redwitch
(14,944 posts)I think our President is a very decent man. He wouldn't do it.
kgnu_fan
(3,021 posts)UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)then they are lying.......
kgnu_fan
(3,021 posts)you see this kind of behavior over and over and over again, finally you just lose respect.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)my eyes..... SMH!
kgnu_fan
(3,021 posts)UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)referring to how many people here easily dismiss such actions.
kgnu_fan
(3,021 posts)kgnu_fan
(3,021 posts)Impedimentus
(898 posts)published it 12 hours later. Of course the article was still up with no change. I'm sure others complained. They don't listen.
FEEL THE BERN - 2016
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Sad they have to do this shit.
kgnu_fan
(3,021 posts)Mad-in-Mo
(229 posts)I never believed this had happened. It sure got a lot of media coverage, though.
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)Do you think he would endorse the guy who called for a Primary on him? That is not a Democrat? That has dissed Dems for decades, and continues to do so in this campaign? A guy who is pro gun? Every politically sentient being in the United States knows Obama prefers Clinton.
You guys need to face reality at some point. It's also no surprise Warren has not endorsed Bernie.
senz
(11,945 posts)They have campaigned for one another. Obama's not stupid enough to hold Bernie's Independent status against him. Nor is he stupid enough not to understand why Bernie discussed a primary challenge to make Obama back off on SS reductions. Nor is he stupid enough to consider Bernie, whom the NRA despises, "pro-gun."
Maggie, you really should credit Obama with his own fine intelligence.
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)And they hadn't had a meeting in years, then had one that lasted 20 minutes (and was clearly for appearances sake only).
senz
(11,945 posts)Bernie never advocated a different president. He said he thought a primary challenge from the left would get through to Obama so that he would begin pay attention to us again.
As I'm sure you know, Obama was getting a lot of pressure from the oligarchs to weaken and eventually privatize Social Security. The left (the real Democrats) had no such clout. The only clout we have is political. But money trumps politics, as I'm sure you know. This time, however, we got through because Obama backed off the reduction in SS payments.
Obama and Bernie have always gotten along. There is no bad blood between them, no matter how badly you may wish there were.
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)Obama is 20 years younger, yet 100x more accomplished. He does not need the advice of a failed and ineffective politician like Bernie.
That's what is so fucking irritating about Bernie. He wants to lecture everyone else (while he rudely points his finger in our faces) even though he has never accomplished anything of note in his entire career and did not even have a real job or vote before he was 40.
Arrogance and failure are not a good combination.
senz
(11,945 posts)Where the hell do you get "advice" from?
As for experience, Bernie has been a U.S. legislator for 35 years, respected by his colleagues, loved by his constituents, and effective at his work. Before that he was a 4-term mayor of Burlington.
He has TONS of experience -- so try your very best to be more truthful.
Here is an overview of Bernie's advocacy for PoC and LGBTs: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511324268
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Dem:
senz
(11,945 posts)Not after her votes for the Iraq War and the Patriot Act.
Not after her racist attacks on him in 2008. (I am sure Michelle never forgave her, either.)
Not after her lies and horrible behavior in that campaign.
Not after her scorched earth refusal to support him after he won -- until later when she and Bill realized they had to if they ever hoped to try to seize the presidency again.
Not after all the insider rumors that she was getting ready to primary him in 2012.
Not after her recklessness as SOS -- her ruining Libya, her underhanded deals with weapons manufacturers and questionable countries.
Not after her private email server fiasco.
Not after her criticisms of his foreign policy.
They pretend to be friendly for the camera, but they are always brittle with one another, forced smiles. He has to be nice to her for political reasons, but it's obvious neither he nor his family actually like her.
Uncle Joe
(58,355 posts)Thanks for the thread, CoffeeCat.
senz
(11,945 posts)a good one, too.
What they did was wrong. But so much is wrong, lately.
I missed it, did something happen to WillyT?
I envy you your innocence, and now I'm about to spoil it: he was banned.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027693888
I will miss him.
senz
(11,945 posts)I was stunned to see what a hateful lather they'd worked up against him. This place is not very healthy. At all.
MerryBlooms
(11,768 posts)pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)It is all they've got -- but they've got a huge bullhorn to blast it out from.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)before the truth gets out of bed.