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think

(11,641 posts)
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 11:48 PM Mar 2016

Dictator had human rights violations. Clinton increased weapon sales after donation to foundation.

Clinton Foundation Donors Got Weapons Deals From Hillary Clinton's State Department

BY DAVID SIROTA @DAVIDSIROTA AND ANDREW PEREZ @ANDREWPEREZDC ON 05/26/15 AT 8:44 AM

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Sales Flowed Despite Human Rights Concerns

Under a presidential policy directive signed by President Bill Clinton in 1995, the State Department is supposed to specifically take human rights records into account when deciding whether to approve licenses enabling foreign governments to purchase military equipment and services from American companies. Despite this, Hillary Clinton’s State Department increased approvals of such sales to nations that her agency sharply criticized for systematic human rights abuses.

In its 2010 Human Rights Report, Clinton’s State Department inveighed against Algeria’s government for imposing “restrictions on freedom of assembly and association” tolerating “arbitrary killing,” “widespread corruption,” and a “lack of judicial independence.” The report said the Algerian government “used security grounds to constrain freedom of expression and movement.”

That year, the Algerian government donated $500,000 to the Clinton Foundation and its lobbyists met with the State Department officials who oversee enforcement of human rights policies. Clinton’s State Department the next year approved a one-year 70 percent increase in military export authorizations to the country. The increase included authorizations of almost 50,000 items classified as “toxicological agents, including chemical agents, biological agents and associated equipment” after the State Department did not authorize the export of any of such items to Algeria in the prior year.

During Clinton’s tenure, the State Department authorized at least $2.4 billion of direct military hardware and services sales to Algeria -- nearly triple such authorizations over the last full fiscal years during the Bush administration. The Clinton Foundation did not disclose Algeria’s donation until this year -- a violation of the ethics agreement it entered into with the Obama administration....

http://www.ibtimes.com/clinton-foundation-donors-got-weapons-deals-hillary-clintons-state-department-1934187



To be clear Algeria was a dictatorship when Hillary made the decision to increase arms sales and the foundation took the donation:


The world's enduring dictators: Abdelaziz Bouteflika, Algeria

By JOSHUA NORMAN CBS NEWS June 10, 2011, 2:00 PM

Abdelaziz Bouteflika, Algeria

Length of rule: 12 years. After having term limits abolished, Bouteflika won a third five-year term as president in 2009, having won that and the 2004 election with an absurd margin of victory. He first won the presidency in 1999 with the backing of the military, in part by promising to end the violence that rocked the country after the cancellation of parliamentary elections in 1992, which an Islamic party was allegedly set to win.

Most despotic acts: Bouteflika has battled militant Islamic movements throughout his time in office. After being in place 19 years - a length of time that precedes his ascension to power - Bouteflika recently lifted the state of emergency, enacted at the onset of a violent ten-year civil war, which had turned human rights into a secondary concern in Algeria. Regardless, Bouteflika has continued to aggressively squash protests against his rule inspired by uprisings in neighboring North African countries. While the emergency rule was in place, Bouteflika's regime was accused by the UN Human Rights Committee of "massacres, torture, rape and disappearances." The U.S. State Department reports that Bouteflika's regime has repeatedly failed to "account for persons who disappeared in the 1990s and to address the demands of victims' families." While food shortages and general discontent led to many of the smaller Tunisia-inspired protests that state security forces violently squashed, rampant corruption was among the protesters' chief complaints, a problem that could result in "an explosion (of protests) if the government's promise of change doesn't come fast enough," NPR writes...

full article:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-worlds-enduring-dictators-abdelaziz-bouteflika-algeria/





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Dictator had human rights violations. Clinton increased weapon sales after donation to foundation. (Original Post) think Mar 2016 OP
But, but but, she gave such a great speech on human rights dflprincess Mar 2016 #1
Talking is about how Hillary does. white_wolf Mar 2016 #6
Of course she did bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #2
The sad part is she'd probably do it again.... think Mar 2016 #3
Where there is smoke, there is fire. Clintons are on fire. nt thereismore Mar 2016 #4
Yep. blazing a trail for all to see.... think Mar 2016 #7
repeatedly; so many examples of this, and so blatant amborin Mar 2016 #9
Duplicity Is As Duplicity Does cantbeserious Mar 2016 #5
The personification of sleaze and corruption Doctor_J Mar 2016 #8
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #10
SO corrupt... AzDar Mar 2016 #11
This pay-to-play by the U.S. State Department under Clinton... Peace Patriot Mar 2016 #12
K&R me b zola Mar 2016 #13
This is just speculation. There's not a fact to be found as it relates to BreakfastClub Mar 2016 #14
What do you think Hillary's function was as SoS? Was she in charge of the State Department or not? think Mar 2016 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author PonyUp Mar 2016 #15
I am sometimes confused as to whether liberals should support, oppose or ignore dictators. pampango Mar 2016 #17
 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
8. The personification of sleaze and corruption
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:32 AM
Mar 2016

This one sounds criminal. It's hard to see how she will survive a full term without being impeached.

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
12. This pay-to-play by the U.S. State Department under Clinton...
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 03:16 AM
Mar 2016

...reminds me of Cheney and Halliburton. So corrupt as to be almost unbelievable.

But since Cheney ain't in jail (for the Halliburton no-bid contracts in Iraq alone, he should be), Clinton probably won't get investigated either (let alone prosecuted). It makes you wonder about what has become NORMAL in our government! No, not wonder--it makes me SHRIEK! HOW CAN THIS BE? ARE WE NUTS? WHAT WOULD HARRY TRUMAN DO WITH THESE PEOPLE?! WHAT WOULD DWIGHT EISENHOWER DO WITH THEM?

We have so lost our way.

BreakfastClub

(765 posts)
14. This is just speculation. There's not a fact to be found as it relates to
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 04:25 AM
Mar 2016

Hillary and any wrongdoing. There are many reasons why the Obama admin would increase funding, and there is no reason to believe it had anything to do with Bill Clinton's charity or bribes or any other silly shit Hillary gets accused of without evidence. This is flimsy at best.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
16. What do you think Hillary's function was as SoS? Was she in charge of the State Department or not?
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 09:09 AM
Mar 2016

And if she wasn't in charge of these weapon sales why do emails with her aides state otherwise?

Emails Show Hillary Clinton Aides Celebrating F-15 Sales to Saudi Arabia: “Good News”

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The planes, made by Boeing, have been implicated in the bombing of three facilities supported by Doctors Without Borders (Médicins Sans Frontières). The U.N. Secretary General has decried “intense airstrikes in residential areas and on civilian buildings in Sanaa, including the chamber of commerce, a wedding hall, and a center for the blind,” and has warned that reports of cluster bombs being used in populated areas “may amount to a war crime due to their indiscriminate nature.”

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A few years earlier, as secretary of state, Hillary Clinton made weapons transfer to the Saudi government a “top priority,” according to her closest military aide.

And now, newly released emails show that her aides kept her well-informed of the approval process for a $29.4 billion sale in 2011 of up to 84 advanced F-15SA fighters, manufactured by Boeing, along with upgrades to the pre-existing Saudi fleet of 70 F-15 aircraft and munitions, spare parts, training, maintenance, and logistics.

The deal was finalized on Christmas Eve 2011. Afterward, Jake Sullivan, then Clinton’s deputy chief of staff and now a senior policy adviser on her presidential campaign, sent her a celebratory email string topped with the chipper message: “FYI — good news.”

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The congratulatory tone continues through the email chain with other officials, also with redacted names, calling the weapons deal “Great news!”

On December 26, Jeremy Bash, then-chief of staff at the Pentagon, sent the email string, titled “F-15SA Christmas Present,” to Sullivan, who sent it to Clinton with his own note at the top.

https://theintercept.com/2016/02/22/saudi-christmas-present/


Other sources for your consideration:

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2015/1006/Clinton-e-mails-Did-donors-get-special-State-Department-access

http://www.thenation.com/article/opinionnation-hillary-clinton-state-department-hawk-or-humanitarian/

http://thehill.com/regulation/international/243089-hillary-clinton-facing-criticism-over-international-weapons-deals

http://news.yahoo.com/us-state-dept-approves-1bn-military-sale-pakistan-154340898.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html?_r=0

Response to think (Original post)

pampango

(24,692 posts)
17. I am sometimes confused as to whether liberals should support, oppose or ignore dictators.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 09:28 AM
Mar 2016

All dictators are repressive. (A tough military, security force, secret police, etc. are critical if one is to be a dictator-for-life.) Yet some dictators are 'better' (or, at least, a 'lesser of two evils') than others.

When I was a younger Democrat, dictators were perceived as evil, even those dictators whom our government imposed and/or supported.

Bouteflika has battled militant Islamic movements throughout his time in office.

Is he a 'lesser of two evils'? No. He is just evil.

Here's the full list of The World's Enduring Dictators:

Visit the links below for profiles of the dictators in this series:

Hassanal Bolkiah, Brunei
Qaboos bin Said, Oman
Ali Abdallah Saleh, Yemen
Jose Eduardo dos Santos, Angola
Robert Mugabe, Zimbabwe
Teodoro Obiang Nguema Mbasogo, Equatorial Guinea
Paul Biya, Cameroon
Yoweri Museveni, Uganda
Blaise Campaore, Burkina Faso
Mswati III, Swaziland
Omar Bashir, Sudan
Idriss Deby, Chad
Nursultan A. Nazarbayev, Kazakhstan
Islam Karimov, Uzbekistan
Emomali Rahmon, Tajikistan
Than Shwe, Myanmar (Burma)
Isaias Afewerki, Eritrea
Kim Jong-il, North Korea
Yahya Jammeh, The Gambia
Aleksander Lukashenko, Belarus
Hamad bin Khalifa Al Than, Qatar
Meles Zenawi, Ethiopia
Abdullah II, Jordan
Abdelaziz Bouteflika, Algeria
Ismael Omar Guelleh, Djibouti
Hamad bin Isa al-Khalifa, Bahrain
Mohammed VI, Morocco
Bashar Assad, Syria
Abdullah bin Abdul-Aziz, Saudi Arabia

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-worlds-enduring-dictators/

Yes they are all men. The list is a few years old. Many of them are dead - either of old age as 'dictator-for-life' or more violently.
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