2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumVote Sanders. Everyone else will send your kids to war.
Intervention is the central question of American foreign policy. When, where, and how should the United States project power abroad? Our answers help shape the world.
Debate over intervention has naturally become part of this seasons presidential campaign. Most candidates sing from the same foreign policy hymnal. They share deeply ingrained assumptions: The United States is the indispensable nation that must lead the world; this leadership requires toughness; and toughness is best demonstrated by the threat or use of force. It is the Cold War consensus, untouched by the 21st century.
Only one of the remaining candidates has broken from this orthodoxy. Bernie Sanders is often described as inexperienced in world affairs. Certainly he has spent far fewer hours thinking about global issues than his Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton. Yet recently he has found a theme: the long-term effects of intervention. Rather than cheer every show of American force, Sanders reminds us of the parlous consequences of past assaults on other countries.
http://stephenkinzer.com/2016/03/vote-sanders-everyone-else-will-send-your-kids-to-war/
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)Amazingly enough, they do not feel they would consider it an honor to kill and be killed just so we can have a first woman president.
Who would have think it? Personally, if Hillary gets to the presidency, I wish only those who voted for her go to war. Seems fair.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)*"Notably he supported NATO's bombing of Yugoslavia in 1999, a stance which caused one of his staffers to resign in protest."
*"While it's true he voted against the Iraq War, he also voted in favor of authorizing funds for that war and the one in Afghanistan."
*"He voted in favor of a $1 billion aid package for the coup government Ukraine"
*"Supported Israel's assault on Gaza"
So, no, he won't send YOUR kids, but that says nothing about the kids of other nations, now does it?
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)Tarc
(10,476 posts)But she isn't, so, you don't.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)a neocon? Did I get that right?
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Tarc
(10,476 posts)Can you tell us where the tipping point is for when support for warfare tips from minuscule to non-minuscule? Is it a quota thing, like 5 war votes per year? Do you add up the budget dollars?
We haven't even even scratched the surface yet regarding war support, e.g. Daniel Ortega and the Sandinistas.
Note that I do not fault Sanders for his votes and his positions in these events; in fact I support them wholeheartedly. What is being called out here is the hypocrisy of some of his supporters on the issue.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)msongs
(67,405 posts)supporting and voting for it. He continuously votes to fund the war machine. he is NO peacenik