2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumeither sanders's former charleston s.c. field director's account was hacked, or
either sanders's former charleston south carolina field director's twitter account was hacked, or this dude is one subversive, arrogant s.o.b.
[center][/center]
https://twitter.com/SPrescottHarris/status/703743473934049281
https://twitter.com/SPrescottHarris/status/704678667847409664
https://twitter.com/SPrescottHarris/status/704826835876651008
CalvinballPro
(1,019 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Is also the white guy without glasses and beard in photo with HRC.
MADem
(135,425 posts)the Sanders campaign closed up shop in SC? Those were all paid positions.
He probably hired on with Sanders, got laid off when SC crapped out, and since they didn't have any other work for him, he hired on with the Clinton campaign.
He's a political operative. He says as much right on all his social media pages.
He works for Democrats and doesn't care who.
It is not uncommon for people who do that kind of work to shift loyalties depending on who is willing to give them a paycheck.
iAZZZo
(358 posts)"Was he one of the 240 (mostly black) staffers that were let go when the Sanders campaign closed up shop in SC?"
please provide an authoritative link referencing your "240 (mostly black) staffers" assertion.
thank you in advance member MADem
MADem
(135,425 posts)He spent a FORTUNE there.
LinkS:
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/warning-signs-hillary-clinton-south-carolina
The Sanders campaign, meanwhile, had 240 staffers on the ground as of last week 80 percent of them African-American spread across 10 offices statewide.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bernie-sanders-staffs-up-in-south-carolina/
Andrew Springer, formerly the senior editor of social media at ABC News, joined Sanders' South Carolina team as the state communications director on Wednesday. And Christale Spain, the deputy executive director for the South Carolina Democratic Party, will start her role as Sander's political outreach director there on Sept. 15th.
Democratic insiders in South Carolina characterize Spain's move as a savvy hire for the Sanders team - in part because of her strong relationships with African American constituency groups in the state, where black voters could make up over half of of the primary electorate.
Hillary Clinton's team has pointed to South Carolina and her support among African-Americans as a bulwark if she stumbles in mostly-white Iowa and New Hampshire. Her husband remains very popular in the state, but she was still clobbered there by Barack Obama in the 2008 Democratic primary, thanks to his support in the African-American community. It remains to be seen how much support Sanders would be able to pick up against Clinton.
http://www.star-telegram.com/news/politics-government/election/article62953652.html
With an insurmountable deficit, Sanders spent much less time than Clinton in South Carolina last week. He campaigned Wednesday, Thursday and part of Friday in Midwestern states that hold primaries next month, including some that have primaries Tuesday.
Still, he did invest heavily in South Carolina, with 200 paid staff on the ground and an aggressive television advertising campaign.
Sanders came back to South Carolina Friday, but he flew out again Saturday to campaign in Texas and Minnesota, where he held a rally as polls closed in South Carolina.
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-02-24/sanders-spends-big-to-close-the-big-gap-in-south-carolina
iAZZZo
(358 posts)"Was he one of the 240 (mostly black) staffers that were let go when the Sanders campaign closed up shop in SC?"
your post/comment/statement referenced race (quoting, " mostly black) staffers" .
you did not address this and simply provided [font size="16"]tl/dr[/font] web-quotes lacking your own analysis, as well as a non-contextual jpeg (picture link)
this implies reticence for rational interaction/discourse
[br /]
_____
MADem
(135,425 posts)He spent a half million on staff as of the end of Jan. Eighty percent of the hired staff were black.
He got squat for his efforts.
If you couldn't figure that out from the bits I clipped for you, that is not my problem.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Heck they even made it bold, and BIGGER than normal.
And this is why I don't even bother anymore.
MADem
(135,425 posts)It's almost like he's looking for a donnybrook.
Reminds me of someone who isn't here anymore.... hmmm. Very similar approach to "conversation."
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)This is just not "civil discourse" by any measure, and he's not helping the Sanders team at all with this approach.
It's kind of sad, actually.
iAZZZo
(358 posts)"Eighty percent of the hired staff were black."
specious contention
please member madem......... we've had enough of the racism/antisemitism with another poster's opinions here on du (as well as numerous links to elsewhere on the web)
please refrain. thank you
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Racial profiling is a fact of life here, said Vaughn Carney, a black lawyer in the state who has supported Sanders in every election but plans to vote for Hillary Clinton for president.
Vermont incarcerates people at the fourth highest rate in the U.S., but no one talks about that. I have been beating on that drum for a while now, and I hoped that Bernie would up that mantle, but he has not. He is like a lot of Vermonters who like to congratulate themselves on how progressive they are but sweep these issues under the rug.
Carney said that he and other black leaders in the state often turned to Vermonts other senator, Patrick Leahy, for matters pertaining to the community.
http://www.salon.com/2016/02/17/black_activists_in_vermont_complain_they_were_invisible_to_bernie_sanders/
MADem
(135,425 posts)he hired 240 staffers, eighty percent of whom were black, and he spent a half million bucks on their salaries.
There's nothing "specious" and it's not a "contention." It's a fact and I gave you the "proof" you demanded when you asked for it upthread. Trying to imply that I am a racist or anti-semite is what's called rude, disruptive and abusive behavior here, and I am calling you out for trying to pull that crap.
Now you're just goading/baiting--in an obvious fashion, too. That's not a very nice thing to do, you know. People do notice it.
merrily
(45,251 posts)already been rationalized unconvincingly explained on this board by a DUer who obviously had zero knowledge about it. Turns out, there's nothing to see there, or, indeed, in any of the Carolinas. Move along.
+1
yeah, these people are just good, law abiding folks who only want a job in the Democratic party. it does't matter who they work for.
uh huh...
merrily
(45,251 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)He may look young, but he's not.
This is his LIVING. He's not a dewy-eyed Bern-feeling believer. He works for Democrats, but he's not fussy. He was hired because he knows how to do this kind of organizing drill, not because he "loves" Bernie with a fierce "berning" loyalty.
If he can put a Dem in the WH, and that Dem will PAY HIM TO HELP, he's there.
smh!
yardwork
(61,785 posts)I don't understand the suggestion that this person is not law abiding.
merrily
(45,251 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)iAZZZo
(358 posts)is your offering a statement, or query, or both?
thank you in advance KittyWampus. also, what is "doxing"
mythology
(9,527 posts)search for and publish private or identifying information about (a particular individual) on the Internet, typically with malicious intent.
iAZZZo
(358 posts)thank you for your explanation member mythology
it's apparent that twitter-feeds (indexed by the library of congress, no less) and their replication as represented herein are not "doxing"
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)But more and more people are just putting it all out there, and if we all learn one thing, it's that the internet doesn't forget/forgive anything.
MADem
(135,425 posts)whining about him don't understand this. He's no different that James Carville or David Axelrod, only he's slightly less well known.
When Dean folded his tent, his operatives went to other campaigns. When Sanders didn't need this guy anymore, he hired himself out to the only other game in town.
It's not nefarious, it's not suspicious, it's what political operatives do. The guy isn't in the game for the "Feel the Bern" Love. It's his LIVING. It pays his rent.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)StandingInLeftField
(972 posts)This will be my last post on DU as I will work with all my strength to insure that Hillary Rodham Clinton does not receive the Democratic Party's nomination. Failing that I will double down to insure that Hillary Rodham Clinton NEVER becomes the President of the United States. I'd like to thank all the sane people on this board for an interesting six years. I'm off to JPR.
Empowerer
(3,900 posts)yardwork
(61,785 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)If you are running for election, you might hire him. If you need a specific thing done, coordination at the county or state or regional or even national level, depending, this is the kind of guy you hire.
You pay him, he does the job. He knows the reporting requirements, he has a pretty good idea of what's legal to do, and what's illegal, and he will keep you out of trouble with the FEC in his management of junior personnel and volunteers.
If you don't keep paying him, and don't give him other jobs in your campaign, then he goes looking for other jobs to do.
For which he is paid.
He might even post pics of his campaign job work on his twitter feed or his facebook page.
This guy has been at this in some way or another, either working for campaigns or for local party outlets, since Obama's first run, at least.
He's a "veteran political operative."
It's what he gets paid to do.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)Professional political operatives work for different campaigns. There is nothing subversive about this.
iAZZZo
(358 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)They think that the pros are "loyal" to a "cause."
LOL! They're some of the most cynical people in politics--the only thing they care about is being on a winning team.
David Axelrod worked for John Edwards, Barack Obama, Deval Patrick, Howard Washington, Rahm Emmanuel, some guy who tried/failed to become PM of Italy .... and a slew of other campaigns.
synergie
(1,901 posts)in, either due to their ignorance or their deep passionate hatred. Or they're just having a little dramatic moment, who knows really. I'm still not sure how this was Hillary or the DNC's fault, (like the data breach was) but not Bernie or his staff, for hiring people and then failing to direct them to do what they wished them to do. If your campaign had poor planning and doesn't know how to hire people, or direct them, how is the fault not your own, but that of your opponent?
Even if you're going to try to blame the people you hired, surely they were carrying out your orders?
senz
(11,945 posts)Look how the thread got swarmed.
"Nothing to see here folks, no siree, don't look here..."
MADem
(135,425 posts)a dual Ivy grad and professional gun for hire in Democratic circles. It's not swarming when people call your pal iAZZZo on his assertions and innuendos. He has been all over the place here, accusing this guy of being some sort of spy, implying that I am a racist/anti-semite; and you're right behind him, cheering him on--so you'd better start putting up or shutting up.
I'm looking forward to seeing you prove this. Not make nasty insinuations with pictures that have been PUBLISHED by the fellow himself on the internet (yeah, what a "spy" ; I want you to prove the nefarious charges you're making. Tick tock!! Get cracking!
You're both trying so hard to smear this guy; let's see what you've actually got, shall we?
Pffffft!
iAZZZo
(358 posts)[br /]
"dual Ivy grad"
sad.... guess stanford was for naught
MADem
(135,425 posts)Harvard alum; Eli (code for alumnus) @ Yale.....
I guess you missed the bit where he calls himself a "Veteran Political Operative" too!!!
He worked on Obama's campaign in 08....and in 12~!
He does this for MONEY--not love.
You really are .... something!
iAZZZo
(358 posts)[br /]
caps. thank you.
sorry.... searched. no "double ivy"/stanford..............
sad
MADem
(135,425 posts)And he is a "Veteran Political Operative."
He's not a dewy eyed volunteer. This is his j-o-b.
I'm sorry you have a hard time reading things and understanding them, especially things that you, yourself, have provided to the thread.
iAZZZo
(358 posts)if so, please get to a laptop or desktop; context, i believe, was mistaken due to limited screen resolution. i.e. dimensional cropping
replicating once again:
"dual Ivy grad"
sad.... guess stanford was for naught
MADem
(135,425 posts)posted.
Harvard alum, Eli at Yale.
Not rocket science. It's written under HIS picture--that YOU posted. LOL!
Poor you.
iAZZZo
(358 posts)once again, your capitalization of various words is noted. bravo
and, as was written twice earlier, "stanford for naught"
MADem
(135,425 posts)operatives (veteran or otherwise) get PAID for doing jobs.
When they finish doing a job, if the campaign doesn't want to give them another job, they move on to another campaign.
It's not hero worship, it's a job.
iAZZZo
(358 posts)"Look how the thread got swarmed"
heck, ain't nuthin' like stepping on a hornets nest while "whackin'-the-weeds"
senz
(11,945 posts)some are quite irritable tonight. Hope you don't feel surrounded. You don't have to respond to any of it.
MADem
(135,425 posts)I'm still waiting for you guys to prove that this guy was anything other than the "Veteran Political Operative" -- a guy who is a gun for hire, paid to run campaigns on a state/regional/national level-- that he says he is in his biographical blurb under his picture (posted, amusingly enough, by the thread starter) and was somehow an evil SECRET SPY from the Clinton campaign...! So SECRET that he posts pictures from the campaigns that he gets PAID to organize~!!!!
senz
(11,945 posts)Bernie is the finest presidential candidate that I can remember since RFK. He is a thousands times better as a human being, on any measure of humanity, than the person he's running against. I am proud to be supporting him. I am grateful to have lived long enough to witness his presidential bid and support it in the ways that I can. I am happy to be a tiny part of it. I think Bernie Sanders is courageous, truthful, ethical, dedicated, and good. He is taking on the wealthiest and most corrupt powers on this planet. That is a very upright, courageous human being.
You seem to be in a very bad mood tonight, MADem. For whatever reason, you've picked this strange little opportunist to be your hero and now you want to squabble with somebody over it. It's not an issue that particularly interests me; if this fellow in some way sabotaged Bernie in South Carolina, then I hope he will be charged and prosecuted. If not, then who gives a shit about him?
Now squabble away, dear.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Good grief. Not everything is about "Bernie."
I'm talking about your full-throated defense of this ill-advised OP.
Should Joe Trippi have committed suppuku when Howard Dean dropped out? Or earlier, when Mondale didn't cut it?
smh.
The originator of this sorry thread doesn't understand that people who work on these campaigns, some of them, the ones with resumes and experience, actually EXPECT TO GET PAID.
This gentleman who is being accused of being a "Clinton spy" or a "DNC plant" is a "veteran" political operative (he worked for Barack back in 08, e.g.) and these are NOT his first campaigns. He's not a wide - eyed Berner--he's a guy who runs campaigns--Democratic campaigns, mind you--for MONEY. It's his LIVING.
I'm in a GREAT mood tonight--just watched John Oliver on telly and he was very good!
senz
(11,945 posts)Quote it for me, dear.
C'mon ... do it ...
MADem
(135,425 posts)Here are the relevant posts: 21, 35 and 47.
Oh, and 50--seeing as now you're trying to put me down with "dear" comments after your false assumption that I was being "mean to Bernie" went awry.
I mean really--"dear?" That's probably the biggest one of all--the snide "put down" -- simply because you didn't like the facts presented.
If Sanders supporters are freaking out over paid political operatives, who get hired to do jobs, and then move on to do other jobs when they've finished the one they were hired to do, then that's a problem for them--not for the Sanders campaign, and not for the Clinton campaign.
THEY know how this shit works...they weren't born last night.
senz
(11,945 posts)We're not on the same wave length, at all. Shop around, you're bound to find someone who is -- and then you can do whatever it is you want to do.
MADem
(135,425 posts)with me -- I suspect because you've come to realize that this guy is just a paid employee, and he does jobs for political candidates, and there's nothing dire about that at all.
But hey, let's distract from that, and try to put the focus on ME instead.
Sorry--not buying it. I don't think anyone reading the thread will buy it, either.
What's "wrong" with me is that I can't believe people who post regularly at a political website are so uninformed about how campaigns work. Didn't any of these young people spend time watching Carville and Matalin on television? Did they think they did their jobs out of "candidate love" or something?
smh.
iAZZZo
(358 posts)[br /]
[br /]
"some are quite irritable tonight. Hope you don't feel surrounded. You don't have to respond to any of it."
thanks member senz. yep, like stepping onto a hornet's nest, but none of the insects have stingers
guess the swarm keeps being reminded of the swimming pool game hillary and bernie used to play back in the early 90's
[br /]
[center][/center]
MADem
(135,425 posts)political operatives--that was the decade of Carville and Matalin. "Veteran political operatives" they were--people who get paid for doing a job.
Vattel
(9,289 posts)Hired to work in SC for Bernie, pretends to be feeling the bern, and then on the night of the primary he celebrates Hillary's victory.
Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)I've looked at his Twitter. I have three words: Unfit. For. Office.
On Jan 10 this guy was photo'd with the Sanders staff as seen in the OP
On Jan 12 he tweets this, "Honored and grateful for the opportunity to serve at the pleasure of @POTUS for the past seven years. #SOTU #OFAAlum #OFAction"
After that it's a ton of quotes from the State of the Union Message, a few for MLKJr. Day, etc... nowhere does it say, "gee I changed jobs/campaigns! I used to work on Sanders' and now I'm with Hillary's"
This is some bullshit. This guy worked for POTUS and secretly the HRC campaign while masquerading as a Sanders field director This is the kind of fucked up shit Nixon did.
And I have no doubt that that "operative" got a fat promotion on Jan. 12. And he'll be zooming up the ladder and be in Congress one day soon or somewhere very comparable.
Btw, it isn't up to the Sanders side to prove anything, it's up to HRC to prove this is legit.
I wouldn't be these people for all the tea in China, literally. They disgust me.
ncliberal
(185 posts)PADemD
(4,482 posts)Prior to 2008, he enjoyed a successful 11-year career as a Client Relations Executive, in addition to serving as an Offshore Project Manager for a number of Fortune 500 companies in the following industries: finance, hospitality, insurance and telecommunications.
http://m-padems.ngpvanhost.com/press/new-hire-outreach-director-s-prescott-harris-ii
merrily
(45,251 posts)PotatoChip
(3,186 posts)I came across this video today. Make of it what you will...
PADemD
(4,482 posts)S. Prescott Harris II
Chief Political Adviser
Friends of Brenda Lenard
http://www.adisgruntledrepublican.com/2013/08/brenda-leonard-explains-basis-of.html
Tea Party candidate challenges Alexander
http://www.murfreesboropost.com/tea-party-candidate-challenges-alexander-cms-36428