2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHow are LGBTQ voters responding to HRC 2016?
I must not be paying attention, but I havent heard much in the way of support lately?
Is there a groundswell occurring?
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)I will never again vote for a homophobe.
reddread
(6,896 posts)Certainly was not just a gay man's disease. So many deaths, so much disdain.
Such bad judgement.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Never thought she was very good on the issue. But that's really not the reason why I am not supporting her.
I think I would feel the same.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)reddread
(6,896 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)It's not the Harvey Milk Democratic Club, which endorsed Bernie
CONFIRMED ENDORSEMENTS
June 7, 2016 Primary Election
President of the United States: Bernie Sanders
http://www.milkclub.org/2016_endorsements
All they know is 'it's some gays, and they endorsed Hillary'. Says plenty about the mindset and point of view.
reddread
(6,896 posts)VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)Hillary's never had me, and when the Human Rights Campaign announced their endorsement of her, I pulled one of the four donations I make off my paycheck every month. Sure, they won't notice it, but I feel better knowing my money isn't either directly or indirectly going to a corporatist and panderer.
Onlooker
(5,636 posts)The people I know:
L -- very pro Clinton
G -- marginally pro Sanders
B -- don't know their political views
T -- don't know anyone
Q -- very pro Sanders
Hillary also has a lot of support from gay rights groups
The only poll I can find online shows her with a modest advantage, of 48-41%
It's worth remember, though, that 25% of gays vote Republican, which is not as bad as millennials who are 36% Republican, but it's still bad.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Exit polls showed that 76 percent of voters who identified as gay supported Mr. Obama last week, and that 22 percent supported Mr. Romney. Among straight people, each candidate received 49 percent of the vote.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/16/us/politics/gay-vote-seen-as-crucial-in-obamas-victory.html
So that's 22% LGBT voting Mitt while 49% of straights voted Mitt. If straight Americans voted like LGBT Americans there would not be any Republicans holding any office in America. But they don't.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Maybe I'm not paying attention.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)comments were icing on a cake too many already know too well. My transgender friends are wildly dedicated to Bernie, one in particular and I'm very proud of her. Of course the transgender community and their friends are not very fond of HRC which has a history of betraying the transgender community. Of course Democrats are often angry at HRC for their habit of endorsing Republicans. So their endorsement is more of a curse than a blessing. HRC has internal issues of sexism and racism and of course, bias against transgender people.
I'm of an age which saw the worst of the Reagan years far too personally. Those who praise them, they lose us as much as you'd lose anti Vietnam generation people by praising Nixon as a man of peace or as much as you'd lose civil rights Democrats for praising David Duke as a warrior for racial justice. It was not the small thing she and her secure affluent endorsers keep saying it was. Her endorsers, for the most part, were no better than Reagan back then. Democrats were not that much better.
Lifelong Democrat here. Those comments changed my relationship to this Party forever.
LostOne4Ever
(9,288 posts)[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=#009999]From what I have seen at the main ace internet community of AVEN, the ace community is very very pro-Sanders...
http://www.asexuality.org/en/topic/134922-democratic-primary-bernie-or-hillary/?hl=election#entry1061646624
http://www.asexuality.org/en/topic/132923-who-do-you-want-to-be-president/?hl=presidential#entry1061575810
http://www.asexuality.org/en/topic/128527-quiz-for-americans-which-candidates-views-match-yours/
But it is an internet community so YMMV.
Also, it must be said that we are an incredibly small part of the population as only 01% of people are ace.[/font]