2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumYou want Bernie's agenda passed even if Hillary gets the nom., go down ballot.
Get angry and VOTE! Even if you don't vote for Hillary, vote for Alan Grayson and others, make sure we get real Liberals and grab a vetoproof majority. This way we can make sure Bernie's agenda gets passed DESPITE what the DNC wants.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Why would any sane human even consider not voting D in the general election?
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)coupled with a candidate with a long history of bathing is such influence.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)PyaarRevolution
(814 posts)Likes Trump.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Since the only possible effect that voting third party could have is to make a Trump presidency more likely, I'm not sure I agree with you.
PyaarRevolution
(814 posts)I'm talking exclusively to people who would not vote anyway.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)just stating what we all know to be fact.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)at that point having already secured an establishment candidate for each side of the equation.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)They lurk. You know this.
PyaarRevolution
(814 posts)I'm just saying that if they otherwise won't come because Hillary is the nom. wouldn't it at least be something for them to vote in the downballot? Better they come and vote Democrat somewhere than not at all. Would we rather see them stay home?
VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)Hence my worry.
PyaarRevolution
(814 posts)But if there are Dems. like Grayson down-ballot I'm voting for them. I'm trying to talk to those who may not even go to the voting booth if Hillary gets the nom. and the win(hopefully, see: electronic voter fraud).
Human101948
(3,457 posts)and there are no Bernies or Alan Graysons allowed.
VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)Start finding Independents to fill the downticket.
PyaarRevolution
(814 posts)So Hillary's 3rd Way Dems. get shut out and we crowdfund the Liberals.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)brooklynite
(94,535 posts)...because to solve economic inequality you need a guy with a hedge fund in the Cayman Islands?
PyaarRevolution
(814 posts)Oh and should I dismiss what "The Intercept" reports on because the man who is funding it is behind microloans in developing countries with Draconian terms?
jwirr
(39,215 posts)states back to blue and move the House toward blue we are still working for the movement. Not to mention that we can also have a better SCOTUS. If Bernie or Hillary get in.
We have a already won a lot simply by joining together and getting Bernie's agenda on the table.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Autumn Colors
(2,379 posts)vote on their line even though you'll probably see the candidate's name on two different lines. Although they are starting to run their own candidates now in local races, they mainly cross endorse candidates.
They are supporting BERNIE and his platform. If you vote for the candidate using the WFP line instead of the Dem line ... you'll send a message that this person got your vote BECAUSE of this endorsement and these policies are what you hope that candidate will attempt to accomplish in office.
NOTE TO DU: This is NOT promoting another party as nearly all of the candidates WFP cross endorses are Democrats.
Retrograde
(10,136 posts)The far right recognized that having control of Congress is just as if not more important than who's in the White House and got their True Believers out in droves in 2010 and 2014. I'm not thrilled by either Clinton or Sanders as the Democratic candidate for president, but unless I'm dead or in a coma I intend to vote in the upcoming primary and in November, as I have for all elections since I became eligible to vote.