2016 Postmortem
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Exactly where should we, as Democrats, draw the line on election shenanigans? Is something like this example acceptable? Is it election fraud, or just an unavoidable aspect of politics? To be fair I believe I have heard that something similar has also been happening in the GOP field, but should this be a tactic we Democrats tolerate in the name of party unity?
RandySF
(58,821 posts)NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)If you can I will of course delete the post immediately.
blm
(113,061 posts).
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)Proving a negative is almost impossible, which is why a prosecutor must prove a positive!
mythology
(9,527 posts)There is no proof that it is. It's generally considered incumbent on the person making the claim to provide proof, especially one where the claim is that one of the Democratic candidates is intentionally cheating.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)do anything to win. They can hire Karl Rove for example. Clinton's motto is "The ends justify the means". Remember she is tough and that seems to be the quality you value over honesty.
blm
(113,061 posts)Does it match her known signature?
Zira
(1,054 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Thank the Bush Crime Family for the loan of Rove.
elleng
(130,903 posts)Zira
(1,054 posts)If she wins I will not believe she won without fraud.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)continue to use it. We are fighting a war for our democracy and the Ruling Class and their puppets are not on our side. Vote Sanders to fight the corruption of big money in politics.
Zira
(1,054 posts)open at 10. I'm bringing an extra fold out chair for my mother because she is older and can't stand long. We can't wait to vote for Bernie.
Andy823
(11,495 posts)Can you explain how she knows just who to send these letters to? Has she got a list of everyone voting for Bernie and if so does she have a mind reader working for her?
Come on people this is BS!
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)where her campaign DID have access to Sanders file info...whether her campaign took advantage of that "accidental" access or not I cannot say. Guess we'll just never really know.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)is the loop on the "y," although in some samples on the Google images page, there is a loop. Everything else about that signature looks legit.
mythology
(9,527 posts)You can't make any sort of claim as to the authenticity. I can find a copy of Hillary Clinton's signature online. If you'd like, you can do a simple Google image search and find multiple.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)and of course an original exemplar would be needed to make a definitive determination, which I didn't. I was certificated in handwriting analysis many years ago, and I know that original samples are necessary.
blm
(113,061 posts)of older women voters.
I happily expect Sanders to win this state, but, this does look more to me like a Rove type op or a huge mistake by the HRC campaign because it hurts HER voters. I highly doubt it was done as a dirty trick by anyone with Sanders campaign.
As a Dem I don't want ANY voter disenfranchised.