2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI think some Bernie supporters should support Hillary
Let's be real here, there's always been corruption in our elections. JFK might not have won without tens of thousands of late votes pouring in from Chicago that gave him Illinois. Bush wouldn't have won if not for the vanishing votes in Florida. There have always been gamblers and game-players in politics. This election is no different.
Let's face it, the nominee will be up against Republican voter ID laws, voter registration laws, voting hours, accessibility of polling places, number of polling places, and add to that the possibility of Diebold or others manipulating the results. Add to that all the games played already on the Republican side with a nonstop stream of outright lies and misinformation. My god, do you really think Bernie's people can handle that? Do you really think an ethical candidate can win?
In one way it's pretty awesome Hillary managed to steal Iowa, Illinois, Arizona, and nearly stole Michigan. If you really believe our system is so corrupt, then Hillary is the obvious choice if you want to win.
hollysmom
(5,946 posts)its not over until it is over.
House of Roberts
(5,169 posts)I see what you did there.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)noretreatnosurrender
(1,890 posts)I don't want to win that badly that I'd condone corruption. Get real.
Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)Lol
shraby
(21,946 posts)NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)One touches my gag reflex, the other touches my humanity. I'll go with the latter.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)H2O Man
(73,537 posts)without Illinois.
Onlooker
(5,636 posts)H2O Man
(73,537 posts)If you had used Texas in the OP, it's a different story. Of course, some politicians have made reference to old LBJ while attempting to campaign. Curious thing there.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)should immediately start working to elect Bernie. She will lose in the GE, even though the Democratic party, which is only 30% of voters, coronates her for prom queen.
Buzz cook
(2,471 posts)National GOP officials plunged in. Thruston Morton flew to Chicago to confer with Illinois Republican leaders on strategy, while party Treasurer Meade Alcorn announced Nixon would win the state. With Nixon distancing himself from the effort, the Cook County state's attorney, Benjamin Adamowski, stepped forward to lead the challenge. A Daley antagonist and potential rival for the mayoralty, Adamowski had lost his job to a Democrat by 25,000 votes. The closeness of his defeat entitled him to a recount, which began Nov. 29.
Completed Dec. 9, the recount of 863 precincts showed that the original tally had undercounted Nixon's (and Adamowski's) votes, but only by 943, far from the 4,500 needed to alter the results. In fact, in 40 percent of the rechecked precincts, Nixon's vote was overcounted.
Don't believe GOP talking points.
Onlooker
(5,636 posts)... Mayor Daily was as corrupt as can be. But, at any rate, JFK won with or without Illinois, so in the end it doesn't matter all that much.
Buzz cook
(2,471 posts)You have to refute the information I privided and perhaps offer some evidence to support your position.
Doubt without reason is just faith by another name.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)That's all you guys got, that's all we give back.
MFM008
(19,808 posts)throwing feces at each other between HRC and Sanders , were going to have a PRESIDENT TRUMP or PRESIDENT CRUZ or RYAN or KASICH.
D I S A S T E R.
No one STOLE anything.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Go ask 100 random people what they think of what's said on this board. If even one has ever even heard of it, you've beaten the odds.