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Onlooker

(5,636 posts)
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 04:13 PM Mar 2016

I think some Bernie supporters should support Hillary

Let's be real here, there's always been corruption in our elections. JFK might not have won without tens of thousands of late votes pouring in from Chicago that gave him Illinois. Bush wouldn't have won if not for the vanishing votes in Florida. There have always been gamblers and game-players in politics. This election is no different.

Let's face it, the nominee will be up against Republican voter ID laws, voter registration laws, voting hours, accessibility of polling places, number of polling places, and add to that the possibility of Diebold or others manipulating the results. Add to that all the games played already on the Republican side with a nonstop stream of outright lies and misinformation. My god, do you really think Bernie's people can handle that? Do you really think an ethical candidate can win?

In one way it's pretty awesome Hillary managed to steal Iowa, Illinois, Arizona, and nearly stole Michigan. If you really believe our system is so corrupt, then Hillary is the obvious choice if you want to win.

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I think some Bernie supporters should support Hillary (Original Post) Onlooker Mar 2016 OP
as some Hillary supporters should support Bernie. hollysmom Mar 2016 #1
Too clever by half. House of Roberts Mar 2016 #2
Impressive pretzel JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #3
Get Real noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #4
cause she's losing today? Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #5
You're kidding, right? shraby Mar 2016 #6
We have two candidates. NorthCarolina Mar 2016 #7
Amen.... daleanime Mar 2016 #8
JFK won H2O Man Mar 2016 #9
True, but the Republicans did go after several states quite zealousl n/t Onlooker Mar 2016 #11
Oh, you are right. H2O Man Mar 2016 #14
Nope. closeupready Mar 2016 #10
I think all Hillary supporters who are realistic about the most electable candidate pdsimdars Mar 2016 #12
The Chicago JFK vote claim is/was a hoax Buzz cook Mar 2016 #13
I doubt it ... Onlooker Mar 2016 #17
You have to do more than doubt. Buzz cook Mar 2016 #20
Oh wait, let's give the standard Hillary supporter's reply pdsimdars Mar 2016 #15
And unless we all stop acting like a bunch of manged monkeys MFM008 Mar 2016 #16
You grossly overestimate the influence of this place. 99Forever Mar 2016 #18
I think that if frogs had wings they wouldn't bump their A$$E$ Vincardog Mar 2016 #19
 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
7. We have two candidates.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 04:17 PM
Mar 2016

One touches my gag reflex, the other touches my humanity. I'll go with the latter.

H2O Man

(73,537 posts)
14. Oh, you are right.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 04:30 PM
Mar 2016

If you had used Texas in the OP, it's a different story. Of course, some politicians have made reference to old LBJ while attempting to campaign. Curious thing there.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
12. I think all Hillary supporters who are realistic about the most electable candidate
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 04:28 PM
Mar 2016

should immediately start working to elect Bernie. She will lose in the GE, even though the Democratic party, which is only 30% of voters, coronates her for prom queen.

Buzz cook

(2,471 posts)
13. The Chicago JFK vote claim is/was a hoax
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 04:28 PM
Mar 2016
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/history_lesson/2000/10/was_nixon_robbed.html

National GOP officials plunged in. Thruston Morton flew to Chicago to confer with Illinois Republican leaders on strategy, while party Treasurer Meade Alcorn announced Nixon would win the state. With Nixon distancing himself from the effort, the Cook County state's attorney, Benjamin Adamowski, stepped forward to lead the challenge. A Daley antagonist and potential rival for the mayoralty, Adamowski had lost his job to a Democrat by 25,000 votes. The closeness of his defeat entitled him to a recount, which began Nov. 29.

Completed Dec. 9, the recount of 863 precincts showed that the original tally had undercounted Nixon's (and Adamowski's) votes, but only by 943, far from the 4,500 needed to alter the results. In fact, in 40 percent of the rechecked precincts, Nixon's vote was overcounted.


Don't believe GOP talking points.
 

Onlooker

(5,636 posts)
17. I doubt it ...
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 04:32 PM
Mar 2016

... Mayor Daily was as corrupt as can be. But, at any rate, JFK won with or without Illinois, so in the end it doesn't matter all that much.

Buzz cook

(2,471 posts)
20. You have to do more than doubt.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 02:09 AM
Mar 2016

You have to refute the information I privided and perhaps offer some evidence to support your position.

Doubt without reason is just faith by another name.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
15. Oh wait, let's give the standard Hillary supporter's reply
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 04:30 PM
Mar 2016


That's all you guys got, that's all we give back.

MFM008

(19,808 posts)
16. And unless we all stop acting like a bunch of manged monkeys
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 04:31 PM
Mar 2016

throwing feces at each other between HRC and Sanders , were going to have a PRESIDENT TRUMP or PRESIDENT CRUZ or RYAN or KASICH.

D I S A S T E R.
No one STOLE anything.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
18. You grossly overestimate the influence of this place.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 04:44 PM
Mar 2016

Go ask 100 random people what they think of what's said on this board. If even one has ever even heard of it, you've beaten the odds.

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