Bernie dominates so-called "white" states: Hawaii is 75% non-White! Washington is 25% non-white!

[imagine2015]

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Bernie won over 70% of the vote. And he won ALL ethnic groups.

[Gwhittey]

1. I guess.

Those minorities are not non-white enough. Asians have never been discriminated in this country. And even my own Native American ancestors where given there own land for free so not really a minority.

[edgineered]

4. Oh, ... ..., never mind. Just saw the sarcasm tag! nt

[Betty Karlson]

13. Only southern non-whites are real non-whites:

to believe otherwise makes you a sexist racist. And if you are a woman: a Hell-bound slut lusting after millennial boys, as well.

[TrueDemVA]

2. BAM!!!

The more people know about Bernie, the better he does. The Clinton campaign has benefited tremendously from the media blackout of Bernie and his message. When people see what his campaign is about and who he is as a person, the choice is easy. The corporate donors and the obvious trolls have been trying mightily to quiet his message, but people are learning. This is a movement and a fight for our future.

[floriduck]

3. And the more people see and hear Hillary,

the less they like her. Just look at her favorability polls compared to Bernie and you see a stark difference in direction.

[roguevalley]

27. they already know her and all she can hope for is to change minds. SHe can't because she can't and

won't.

[dubyadiprecession]

5. Bernie dominates the 'Hollow victory states'. He needed to win huge...

In the east and south weeks ago, like he is now. It's just too late for him at this point.

[Old Codger]

6. LOL n/t

[imagine2015]

7. You think Bernie should throw in the towell?

LOL

[Recursion]

8. Huh? This is literally the first day after the half-way point in the primary

People really should learn arithmetic...

[stillwaiting]

9. It's hard to do that when a right wing company counts votes

With no government oversight allowed.

Proprietary source coding you see.

Open democrazy!

[Vote2016]

10. Sanders wins the Progressive vote regardless of race. Hillary wins the anti-Progressive and Bible

vote regardless of race.

Some play the race card to try to shut down an ideological debate they can't win. If you look at the statements of those who play the race card with the most feinting-couch drama, you - sadly - cannot rule out antisemitism as an underlying bias but fortunately the antisemitism+race card view is nearly unanimously rejected at DU.

[SHRED]

11. Words of wisdom

Thank you

[Betty Karlson]

15. ^this reply alone is worth a bookmark ^

[riderinthestorm]

17. One of the loudest voices here on DU is just outed as a raging anti-Semite

I agree that anytime anyone has even tried to bring up the obvious anti-Semitism here it's gotten hidden or shouted down.

[Vote2016]

19. I'm not outing anyone. I say we should all search the posts and judge for ourselves

[riderinthestorm]

20. Yup, they did that themselves. nt

[Vote2016]

21. Definitely! Swap "Jew" with a different race and the poster would be banned (again)

[The Straight Story]

31. Jury results

On Sun Mar 27, 2016, 02:55 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

One of the loudest voices here on DU is just outed as a raging anti-Semite
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1586967

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This is a callout to a specific DUer, Braveneck- as they have been posting this crap everywhere. They can't get rid of her through alert stalking anymore, so they do this. Disgusting.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun Mar 27, 2016, 03:03 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: See, this alert illustrates the point perfectly. In the eyes of (far too) many people here, the problem is not that a prominent member of the site outed herself as an anti-Semite, but that other members won't pretend it didn't happen. Those members who won't politely avert their gaze from bigotry are the ones being alert stalked here.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Bravenak apologized. To then call her a "raging anti-semite" is wrong. The harassment of Bravenak over this is definitely hide-worthy. They're following her around, putting it in their sig lines, and generally behaving atrociously. Par for the course for certain people, but I vote to hide. KitS
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Seeing things? Not really hide worthy.
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: anti-semite is thrown around too much, but I don't see this as hideable
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I don't see any specific DUer called out.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[desmiller]

34. Sounds like this alerter is jumping to conclusions.

[Vote2016]

37. the fact that a conclusion of antisemitism is so easily within jumping distance is shameful

[bettyellen]

25. Hillary generally wins the more diverse and populous cities. It is what it is.

[Vote2016]

30. so THAT explains why Hillary kicked ass in the diverse populous cities yesterday (or not)

[bettyellen]

32. If you look at the primary overall so far, it explains a great deal. But you'd have to be willing

to concede that Dem votes matter, even in the South. Lots of people here claim otherwise.
Hawaii has the lowest turnout of any state, Alaska's economy has crashed, and both those states have always been anomalies.
Sure they matter, but not as much when counting votes as more densely populated areas.

[Vote2016]

36. I look at the primary and Hillary's winning the anti-Progressive Bible Belt and Sanders kicks ass

in the rest of the country.

[bettyellen]

38. She is winning it among the more progressive people in the areas, whose votes matter as much

as yours or mine.

[Vote2016]

40. I have yet to meet a single progressive voter who is for Hillary. All the Hillary supporters I

know support her because "it's her turn" after losing in 2008 and "a woman president is overdue." I know literally ZERO Hillary supporters who prefer her platform or her milky toast ideology over Sanders' or O'Malley's (or some of the least conservative Republicans like Pataki).

She's Dukakis or Kerry or Gore but with a metric shit-ton of baggage and unfavourable ratings.

[bettyellen]

41. I guess I get out more, or there's just a wider range of liberals here. But I am in a very blue

area, so that might be it. " Her turn?" Who says shit like that? Odd.

[itsrobert]

12. Wait. Diverse states matter now? n/t

n/t

[VulgarPoet]

14. The new Clintonian meme of the day is the erasure of pacific islanders and other poc

because apparently their states are "white states" lmao

[MisterP]

16. presumably they've internalized their racism by not voting for the white nouveau riche

with the policies that made Nixon and Reagan's War on Drugs look like Cheech and Chong wrote them

[bettyellen]

26. Link? The NYT was about WA and AK, never mentioned HI. Did you read that somewhere....

aside from a SBS supporters post from someone who did not read the NYT article?

[me b zola]

18. This entire line of attack from team Clinton is despicable

My opinion is to stay out of those nasty threads and post factual threads like this.

Viva La Revolution!

[JPnoodleman]

22. Only those who vote for a protestant white person with an english surname....

get to be PoC now. TIS THE LAW!

[KingFlorez]

23. At this point he's already been crushed in multiple places with minorities voters

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And it appears that there were no entrance polls done for any of the caucuses done yesterday, so we don't know what groups he won or even if the bulk of caucus voters were minorities.

[jeff47]

24. Yes, in a 75% minority state, you can be sure only the whites voted.

[KingFlorez]

35. I apologize

No whites voted in Hawaii. I'm very sorry for offending you.

Caucuses don't reflect the overall demographics of a state, even primary elections and general elections don't reflect the overall population of a state. The fact of it is we don't know what the breakdowns are because their were no entrance polls yesterday.

[jeff47]

42. So your argument is in a state that is 75% minority

that 75% mostly didn't bother to vote.

That's almost as believable as Clinton's healthcare plans.

[Number23]

39. That's a very interesting set of points. Thanks for your post

so we don't know what groups he won or even if the bulk of caucus voters were minorities.

Incredibly interesting point. I'm seeing all over the board about how low the turn out was in those caucuses yesterday. Your post adds another layer to consider.

[valerief]

28. Pish tush. Like "journalists" feel compelled tell the truth these days.

[radical noodle]

29. I'd love to see breakdowns if you know where to find them.

70% of the measly amount of voters represented in those caucuses isn't necessarily a wide variety of demographics.

[Blue_In_AK]

33. Alaska's non-Hispanic white population is 61.9 according to census records.

In the United States overall, that figure is 62.6. I think that makes Alaska fairly average demographically.