Was this a Snub? Or just exuberance?

[bravenak]

http://bluenationreview.com/bernie-dont-stand-next-to-me/

Discuss...

[JonLeibowitz]

1. Why would anyone care what Brock's Bile Nation Review has to say?

Given that nobody has any idea what was said, this is Brock grasping for straws.

Heck, you know that Bernie gesticulates when speaking; maybe he didn't want to worry about whacking his wife or staffer while speaking?

[bravenak]

2. People can care or not

[JonLeibowitz]

4. Do you think this story is meaningful?

[bravenak]

11. Barely

[JonLeibowitz]

13. Why post it? Are you trying to stir shit over a meaningless story?

[beam me up scottie]

19. ^^^THAT^^^ What else is new?

[bravenak]

20. It is more meaningful than the endless Bill Clinton ops

[JonLeibowitz]

40. Ah, so you are just trying to stir shit. Thanks for confirming!

[beam me up scottie]

48. OOPSIE! Nice catch!

[bravenak]

49. So those Chelsea ops and bill ops and monica ops are all shit stirring?

Well. Maybe a policing of that side might be in order.

[JonLeibowitz]

58. Nobody forced you to post this. Chelsea brought some things on herself this season by lying

[bravenak]

62. I can post it

And no. That is bull. Double standard.

[JonLeibowitz]

81. Obviously you can post it. The question is if it is worth discussing and whether you agree with it.

If the answer to both is "no" the the post serves as a shit stirring device.

[bravenak]

87. I wanted to discuss

So yes. It is worth it.

[floriduck]

176. I was looking for a snore emoticon

But couldn't find one. Will ZZZZZZZZZZ work instead?

[bravenak]

228. Here

[floriduck]

237. Thanks Bravenak.

Appreciate it.

[CoffeeCat]

226. No, those are responses

to the obvious irony and audacity of a Clinton mouthpiece making any sort of judgements or pronouncements about how a man should treat his wife.

[karynnj]

103. So, two wrongs make a right? Not how I was brought up nt

[bravenak]

105. Me neither but it is what i recieve these days so I am in Rome.

[karynnj]

164. So, you live by when in Rome, do as the Romans do?

I actually brought my daughters up to live up to their own values -- and I am extremely proud of all three. The worst guideline ever is to take on whatever values you find around you. Your own behavior is then defined by the values of others, not you.

[bravenak]

166. I really do not care

I just do not. At all. People seem to place these strange standards on me but ignore everybody lse. So, I just do not care. Do as you will and I shall do likewise.

[AgingAmerican]

196. Core beliefs are 'strange standards'?

Either you have them or you don't.

[bravenak]

236. .

[hobbit709]

21. DING! DING! DING! We have a winner!

[Punkingal]

36. You got it!

[TheCowsCameHome]

92. "trying"?

It's more than that

[insta8er]

206. That is exactly what she is trying to do, and as long as we keep responding to her...she got what

she wanted..

[fun n serious]

31. I can hear what he said. Rude! Very RUDE. nt

[floppyboo]

211. that's what I saw - and definitely 'there'

I've got years of stage performance, sometimes squishy with guitar heads wailing, and all I see is a frontman who is doing on the spot stage management. No apologies needed.

[cherokeeprogressive]

3. Or just this

[bravenak]

12. Yeah. I can see that

[jalan48]

5. I think he must hate his wife. That's it.

[bravenak]

14. I don't

[Politicalboi]

6. So?

At least he didn't cheat on his wife. Maybe he's tired and edgy. Who wouldn't be. Media ignores your wins, being told 24/7 you can't win even though he can.

[Surya Gayatri]

124. Thin-skinned, short-fused. Unpresidential foibles.

Tired and edgy will be no excuse on the international scene.

[beam me up scottie]

7. Other: Propaganda from the misogynist who called Anita Hill "slutty".

Hillary's own Baghdad Bob!

[polly7]

167. Yeah ......... ain't that a joke!

I didn't go to the link, I can't stand that sleazy fucker and all the ugly shit he's pulled so far.

They're really getting afraid, aren't they?

[beam me up scottie]

183. Her supporters are just as bad, according to them this is proof Jane isn't safe with Bernie.

They breathlessly claim they're afraid for her because there's no way to know what he does to her in private.

It's only a matter of time before they post a photo of a bruise and start claiming Bernie beats Jane.

Absolutely unhinged, no better than that slime Brock.

[polly7]

190. Yep, they are, BMUS.

I've been bruised, bones broken, 'humiliated' .... all those things. I have a sixth sense about the type of person who would even think about mistreating a partner - I've read everything here and hundreds of articles on him, watched countless videos, seen him interact with her many, many times; Sanders is the antithesis of what this fucking hit piece is trying so hard to make him out to be.

Complete, ugly propaganda bullshit.

Some have NO shame. Disappointing, to say the least, to see one here on board with it.

When race-baiting fails, go for the abuser line. From the 'nutty and slutty' asshole of all time. I really, really wonder if some just do not have a moral compass, period, or they're just so full of hate they're willing to completely ignore it.

[beam me up scottie]

194. Exactly, you nailed it. He's racist, sexist, homophobic and now a wife abuser.

He's been called all of those things and worse by people who should know better than to exploit race, gender and lgbt causes.

Now they're exploiting battered women.

I wish I could say I'm surprised but I'm not.

[polly7]

195. I think it's sick.

Just like all those other things they've tried, and using people the way they have.

[beam me up scottie]

202. These are the same people who clutch their pearls whenever Bill's affairs are brought up.

Because you know, "real" liberals wouldn't talk about such things.

And here they are gossiping about Bernie being abusive because of something that misogynist Brock published.

Brock who's been exonerated by them for his role in publicly humiliating Anita Hill because he works for Hillary now.

The hypocrisy is staggering.

[polly7]

207. I was thinking they're getting desperate, but they've been trying most of these things

right from the start, haven't they?

Yet screaming for and insisting Sanders reign his big, bad supporters !!! in for daring to talk about the many, many real issues Clinton has - lack of trustworthiness, lying, Big Money pay to play backers, support of fracking, wars that harm, kill and mutilate, make refugees of millions across the globe, and on and on and .......... on.

Transparent as a pane of glass, and just as pathetic.

[lunamagica]

8. Looks like a snub to me...why did she leave the stage? Of what he says, I can make out first word

"don't" and last word "me"

[bravenak]

9. I wondered what was wrong

[KingFlorez]

16. He said "don't stand there"

At least that's what I heard. Either way, it was very rude.

[lunamagica]

24. Sounded to me like "Don't stand next to me". The last word sounded like "me". I agree it was very

rude. Never mind what he says...his arm gesture towards her is quite rude by itself.

[Armstead]

193. Looks like he was starting his speech and just signaling his wife who was trying to figure out when

to leave the stage.

Hardly a snub and hardly dismissive

[KingFlorez]

10. True colors shining through

Everyone seems to think he is so super nice, but this clearly contradicts that. He really showed a nasty attitude right there, especially for someone who had just won big for the day.

[bravenak]

15. Everybody except his colleagues like Barney Frank

Think that. It was strange to say the least.

[KingFlorez]

26. That is true

I thought Frank's comment was interesting. Sanders strikes me as the type who is not easy to work with.

[bravenak]

27. Me too

[Joe the Revelator]

22. What was nasty about it? Sounded like he didn't want her to stand in that spot for whatever reason

What is nasty about that? Maybe he was worried about her her with his hands. This is fucking stupid.

[KingFlorez]

29. Oh, please

It was clearly a rude gesture, there is no mistaking it. I have no doubt if it was anyone else other than Sanders it would be called out for be exactly what it was, a rude gesture.

[gollygee]

17. All I can tell is that he didn't seem to want her to stand there

But I have no context. Without knowing what discussions they'd had earlier about who should stand where, it doesn't mean anything IMO. He isn't as polished as Hillary, but OTOH she isn't always "on" either - like when she said Nancy Reagan was a anti-AIDS activist or something. I guess this seems pretty irrelevant to me.

I was afraid to respond because I'm worried you're going to get piled on. Please don't consider this a part of that. I don't think what he said in this short video clip is relevant to his ability to lead, and it isn't necessarily even disrespectful to his wife as we don't have context, but I don't think it's wrong to bring this here or ask the question.

[bravenak]

23. I don't think it has any bearing on his ability to lead

Anymore than Hillary barkinb has on hers. That was pretty funny.

I think candidates have to be self aware. It was strange. They need to plan ahead on how they will handle events.

[gollygee]

32. Ah

Yeah we do spend time here at DU discussing irrelevant stuff about Hillary as well. We are electing a human being, whoever it will be, and no human being is going to always say or do everything perfectly.

[deathrind]

126. 👆 this.

It certainly appears sketchy but without context it is not possible to discuss with any intelligence and any discussion would be pure speculation.

[Joe the Revelator]

18. This is about as meaningful to discuss as the color of Hillary's dress, or her hair.

This is silly, silly, silly.

[bravenak]

25. Of course it is, but we discuss that at length here.

Her laugh was discussed for many threads.

[Joe the Revelator]

28. No we don't. Those issues have been laughed off the stage since '08

As bullshit like this should be.

[bravenak]

30. You must be reading a different site

[aikoaiko]

33. Looks like he asked two people to clear the stage.

[bravenak]

34. To me too

But why did She need to go?

[lunamagica]

37. I know? Virtually every candidate wants their wife at their side during victory speeches.

Anyway, it is obvious that she wanted and expected to be on stage with him. Why didn't he let her be where she wanted to be?

[bravenak]

38. I would have let her chill with me

[lunamagica]

43. So would I

[beam me up scottie]

35. ZOMGWTFBBQ??? STAGEGATE!!!! Or SNUBGATE!!! Or GESTUREGATE!!!

[Madam Mossfern]

71. Looked like that to me too.

[Warren DeMontague]

39. snuberance.

exuberub.

[bravenak]

42. .

[beam me up scottie]

52. LMAO!

[lunamagica]

56. ...

[Punkingal]

41. David Brock is a POS and Blue Nation Review is a rag.

They must be trying to head off a new Bill cheating story.

[bravenak]

44. .

[lunamagica]

53. This is not a made up story. Many sources are reportng it, and the video is real

[bettyellen]

45. He was probably afraid he would hit her when he waved his arms? I need a bit of personal space

myself too. Understandable.

[bravenak]

51. Probably, lol

[bettyellen]

57. I used to "always be with the hands" so I get it. LOL.

[bravenak]

69. I am too. I show everything, like sign language.

[bettyellen]

73. I have accidentally back handed people. And accused of being too affectionate sometimes.

Took a while for me to read other people, and also- their perceptions.

[bravenak]

85. I still do it

My poor husband ducks when I get started. And I snort when I laugh. Loud!

[bettyellen]

90. You want to snort? I was just accused of defending Nazi symbolism because someone slimed a DUer

(and all Clinton supporters) about their avatar- a Celtic cross.
This place has totally jumped the shark.

[bravenak]

93. I saw that

I just do not get this stuff. It's getting sad and strange and just too riduculous.

[bettyellen]

95. I think some of this trolling will bite them on the ass.

I can't believe they are proud of that shit. Not at all.

[bravenak]

101. Oh, they are

Never doubt that they are VERY PROUD. Sad thing really. Burns bridges for good.

[JonLeibowitz]

117. Agreed 100% -- antisemitism is getting ridiculous on DU.

[bravenak]

122. Are you calling her names?

Her celtic cross is not antisemitism. It is an avatar the skinner provides in the gallery. He would never put it there if it were that. Irish posters and those of a Celtic bent are free to use it without accusations like that.

[JonLeibowitz]

128. I was actually speaking more generally.

[bravenak]

129. Ok. You should post and op about it then.

[lunamagica]

65. A bit of personal space? She left the stage

[bettyellen]

68. Me, I'd send my SO out for takeout, and not realize how bad it looked. HA.

[Nanjeanne]

46. STANDGATE!!!!!!!!! For heaven's sake - no one knows why he said anything - maybe there was a big

hole in the ground he wanted her not to stand near - or maybe there was a light he wanted on her or not on her or WTFever!

It's kind of crazy to worry about something said in private to his wife - particularly when there's much more to discuss in the Clinton relationship. Personally, I don't think that can of worms needs to be opened.

Does this have anything to do with Wall Street fraud? Private prisons? Corporations writing our laws? Jobs going overseas? Fracking? Pay-day Lending? Israel/Palestine path to peace? Anything that should matter to voters?

[fun n serious]

47. It matters because it establishes a pattern of how he treats and dismises women. nt

[JonLeibowitz]

54. He treats women poorly and dismisses them?

Why would you say that? I'm sure you have evidence for that...

[fun n serious]

61. After watching 4 of these videos any bi partisan person would come to that conclusion IMO. nt

[JonLeibowitz]

74. I certainly agree that Hillary supporters bring the bipartisan perspective to DU

Other than that your post is wrong.

[fun n serious]

78. What is your take on it? nt

[JonLeibowitz]

86. If I had to speculate which I would much prefer not to

I would go with what I said in post 1

[fun n serious]

102. it's not the source it's the VIDEO. Your take? nt

[JonLeibowitz]

106. I made my on the video take clear in post 1.

[beam me up scottie]

79. Then why do MILLIONS of women including the VAST majority of us on DU support him?

That's what this is all about, trying to smear Bernie with women and minorities.

More rat fuckery from Brock and Hillary supporters.

[fun n serious]

201. I see a pattern..

You seem to ignore it. It is not smears, it's just how I see things for myself. You know, Clinton can be smeared day and night and even have "brick assaults" thrown at her here in DU and not get hid. I MENTION sanders " early writing" and y'all ban together in to silence me. If you do not think there is anything wrong with his early writings than why not TRANSPARENCY? Why are y'all so thin skinned on any criticism of Sanders? This is a race to the white house! Criticism is normal and should be welcomed. Full on attacks are different. That has to stop but that happens to Hillary not Sanders. Look at the threads. Look what we are faced with here everyday. Take a step back and look at the disadvantage we have here on DU. It's a turn off how y'all behave not just to me but apparently to the superdelagates as well. Did y'all see the Reuters piece about it today?

[beam me up scottie]

208. No actually you're seeing things.

I stick with issues and facts, when you see me posting smears about Hillary or approving of them come see me, I don't respond to logical fallacies.

Since you brought it up I checked your transparency page, those hides were well deserved so don't blame me. You tried to portray Bernie as a misogynistic pervert by using selective quotes and smearing him. Don't complain about Hillary being unfairly smeared when you do the same thing to Bernie.

[fun n serious]

213. I don't think so.

One of them was about Trump. Lol. The rest are mild.

[bravenak]

60. Well, I don't know him personally.

But I thought it strange, indeed. But it has been remarked that he might just like personal space. I think they need to figure stuff out before they go onstage.

Remember Al and Tipper Gore kissing? I was like, hmm, why all weird about it?

[Arugula Latte]

178. There is an established pattern of Hillary supporters making up vile lies against Bernie.

[Politicalboi]

50. Maybe he was singing

[PufPuf23]

55. That is a vile insinuation from a propaganda site ....

You know the truth.

Why post this BS on DU?

[Warren DeMontague]

59. do we really want to make this campaign about who has the healthier marriage?

...

[bravenak]

64. It aint about HER

[Warren DeMontague]

72. I think it is very easy to take a clip like that and read shit into it.

Maybe someone should ask Jane Sanders how she feels about the thing.

[bravenak]

80. Of course it is

Should see me talking loud. Might think i was about to do karate.

[Warren DeMontague]

88. Heh

you should see me dance, you'd think I was having a seizure.

[bravenak]

96. I should teach you

I'm very good at dancing now that I found the beat.

[Warren DeMontague]

115. Oh, dont get me wrong, I enjoy myself immensely.

I just don't give a crap how it looks to anyone else.

Old-school deadhead wisdom, of a sort.

[bravenak]

118. That's all that it really is supposed to be

Hella fun

[Warren DeMontague]

121. Indeed.

[cyberswede]

240. Oh dear.

[morningfog]

63. Not a legitimate site, won't even click on that rat fuckery.

[Madam Mossfern]

66. I think it was addressing both women who were up on the stage

saying "don't stay there."

[bravenak]

67. Maybe. Quite possible

[Android3.14]

70. Why don't you "discuss"

Go tell proles what to do, lady.
The hubris of Hillary supporters is such a turn-off.

[bravenak]

76. I am discussing

[asuhornets]

75. LOL..

I wonder what that was about? It sounded like he said don't stand there....But why?

[bravenak]

77. I really wish I knew

[lunamagica]

83. It's going viral with the title "Sen Sanders tells wife "Don't stand next to me".

[karynnj]

98. True - and anyone who has seen them will question those who retweet it

This is a pretty dumb move for the Clinton allied "news" source. Seriously, there have been far more questions about Bill Clinton than Bernie.

[lunamagica]

100. Bill Clinton is not running for office

[karynnj]

107. No, but he would be in the White House ...

[Madam Mossfern]

97. He said that to both of the people on the stage

If you notice the woman on the right left first and then Jane. I think he said "Don't stay there" to both of them.
Anyway I don't think it was a big deal. Someone should have told people when they needed to leave the stage.
I've participated in enough public events to know that it can get confusing. So it wasn't professionally staged - big deal.

[Jennylynn]

82. A few minutes later....

his wife came back on stage to let him know they had won WA. She didn't seem upset with him.
I was a little put off when he said that to her. I thought he said 'don't stand next to me'. After hearing it again, I sounds like 'don't stand there.' But heck, they've been married for a lot of years and the nerves and energy are all over the place. I'm sure she gets a little testy with him too if that's what it was.

[bravenak]

89. I remember

It's just that it is going viral and I had not seen it discussed yet

[Jennylynn]

114. I knew it would go viral

The minute I heard it I thought, uh oh.

[bravenak]

116. Heck! Everything is viral now.

Kinda crazy tho how things have changed

[Jennylynn]

127. Because of social media? Eom

[bravenak]

131. Pretty much.

[mcar]

84. Hard to say

Curious, though.

[bravenak]

94. Maybe just an off day then

[fun n serious]

104. There seems to be a lot of those, nt

[karynnj]

91. What garbage - the author should be ashamed of himself

As someone who lives in Burlington VT, I have heard NO ONE suggest that they do not have a solid, respectful, loving relationship. Many have spoken of how throughout his career - starting when he was mayor, Jane Sanders was the person who he consulted with the most.

After all that Bill Clinton put Hillary through - from when he was governor to when he was President, I would think that Clinton allies would be smart enough not to have gone there. Bill Clinton himself spoke of bringing pain to his marriage. I would assume that there was sufficient joy and love that kept them together.

[TheCowsCameHome]

99. No more posts, please, we have a winner!

[bravenak]

108. That is why I discarded the bombastic title

It could have just been exuberance. Excitement.

[karynnj]

136. But you had the bad judgment to post it

tell me, do you believe that Senator Sanders would intentionally hurt his wife? Or are the Clinton people - expanding on their Bernie interrupted Hillary (ignoring the gentleman did so ONLY as she was interrupting him) , that was followed up by the fact that he did not let Judy Woodruff cut off his answers.

Not satisfied with distorting Sanders on issues like racial justice, they are now going for the idea that he is misogynous.

What I see is a team that opts to fight dirty even when they should have nothing to worry about .... unless they really are worried!

[bravenak]

138. I think I posed a question in my op

And I think he is kinda dismissive.

[karynnj]

162. You know exactly what you did - you spread a malicious article

The biggest question I have is not why you posted this, but how many times can Brock smear a good man before people question why Clinton coordinates - via a loophole -( they are just on the internet and thus not explicitly prohibited )before there is push back as to why she condones this.

In fact, the SBVT were LESS closely connected to the Bush team (legally and officially) than Clinton is to Brock. Oh, and your comment that justifies this because of negative stories on Bill -- I remember clearly -- when Laura Bush argued the SBVT were ok because her husband was unfairly attacked. I didn't buy it then and thought less of Laura ...and do not buy it now.

[bravenak]

163. Why not go question him?

[karynnj]

165. I certainly have no access to him and I will not go to his loathsome site giving him more hits to

write a comment to him that he will likely never see.

[beam me up scottie]

134. ^^^THIS^^^ Anyone who spreads nasty rumours about Bernie dissing Jane is a lying pathetic hack.

Bernie and Jane love and respect each other, Vermonters know this, it's one of the many reasons why we love this couple.

[oasis]

109. It would seemingly be more natural to embrace your spouse first

and then direct her to stand clear. You'd never see B. Obama or Bill Clinton act in such a way.

[beam me up scottie]

111. You really want to compare how Bernie treats his wife with how Bill treated Hillary?

I would think her supporters would want to avoid that subject altogether.

[oasis]

137. Apples and oranges. Secret love, public snub. (eom)

[beam me up scottie]

139. So you think this imaginary snub is worse than sleeping with other women???

Hillary's humiliation was VERY public. The whole world knew about his affairs, I felt awful for her, still do.

[oasis]

147. "Imaginary snub"??? We're we watching the same video?

[beam me up scottie]

150. Yes, imaginary, unless you can read minds. This is spin from Brock, a known liar and ratfucker.

And nothing in that video comes close to being a serial philanderer and humiliating your wife in front of the entire world.

[oasis]

152. Let's not get sidetracked. Your guy blew it.

This particular incident probably won't amount to much, but it is revealing.

[beam me up scottie]

154. Lol! Sure you want to use a blow metaphor?

[oasis]

155. C'mon now. My grandkids are visiting for Easter.

[itsrobert]

185. Is Bill running for President?

Why would you compare one candidate to the other candidate's spouse?

[beam me up scottie]

189. Pay attention, the other poster brought up Bill and compared them as husbands.

It would seemingly be more natural to embrace your spouse first

and then direct her to stand clear. You'd never see B. Obama or Bill Clinton act in such a way.

Try to follow the thread.

[bravenak]

113. Yep. Talk in their ear.

Every little moment is being watched.

[lunamagica]

119. I esp love how PBO treats Michelle on stage. So kind, gentlemanly and loving. I've never seen

an "off" moment between those two in eight years.

[oasis]

125. Polite behavior just comes naturally for some. (eom)

[lunamagica]

133. This goes way beyond polite. They exude love and admiration for each other

He beams with pride to have her standing next to him.

He would have never waved her off with his arm like that. I just can't see it happening (and it hasn't happened in all these years).

[oasis]

151. Reagan was a real stinker, but always treated Nancy with respect.

Some have it in them, some don't.

[Bobbie Jo]

182. Could you imagine PBO doing that??

Brushing off Michelle like that?

Nooooo way...

[0rganism]

110. i recall seeing that, it looked like he wanted her to cheerlead for a different section of audience

like he didn't want his wife and daughter facing the same part of the crowd during that part of his speech, maybe it's how he usually runs things at his rallies?

dunno, it was a strange moment, though, and easily taken out of context. hell, i watched it in context and ended up speculating. probably best to ask Jane if you want the full story.

[bravenak]

112. Ha! True, Jane probably does know better than we do.

[Surya Gayatri]

120. Obvious dismissal of an underling who was in the way...

Some of his other body language is such a giveaway, as well.

"Out of my way, peon..."

[bravenak]

123. Yep. Dismissive.

[hrmjustin]

130. A bit odd.

[bravenak]

132. I thought so too

[hrmjustin]

135. I guess he is letting it get to his head.

[bravenak]

140. More than likely

[hrmjustin]

141. But people will have a sad because you posted it.

I will light a candle for them.

[bravenak]

144. Me too

Poor dears

[Armstead]

170. Just looked like stage confusion to me

[NorthCarolina]

142. BJ by an intern, snub or just exuberance?

[TheCowsCameHome]

146. 3. ecstasy.

[NorthCarolina]

149. Oh,

so ecstasy was involved? Makes sense.

[whatchamacallit]

143. Fuck Brock and fuck the Brocketts

[beam me up scottie]

148. Brockettes! Perfect! Cheerleaders for a lying misogynist!

[Fozzledick]

145. Looks like a meaningless cheap shot by a shameless ratfucker.

Unfortunately, there's been a lot of that foul shit posted around here recently.

Fortunately, most people can see clear thru it and understand where it's coming from.

[99Forever]

153. david brock is a worthless shit-stirring jerk.

I care almost as much about what that dickhead says as I do what you say.

[R B Garr]

156. That was nasty! Gave me the creeps. Eewwwwww.

Seems to be a pattern with him and aggressively waving his arms at women, apparently including his wife.

[bravenak]

157. Very dismissive too

[R B Garr]

158. Yup, and look at the look on his face. It looks like that wasn't the first time.

He looks really ANGRY at her. Sad.

[bravenak]

159. Impaitient.

It was strange.

[bravenak]

230. .

[polly7]

232. Smearing and pushing lies must be tiring.

Another disgusting thread ........... better get some rest, you'll need it to top the last 5/50? of them.

[bravenak]

235. Where did you get that thingy? I need it.

[Armstead]

169. My aren't we delicate?

[beam me up scottie]

197. LOL! I saw it and had to reach for my smelling salts!!

[Armstead]

204. They're going to need a warehouse of fainting couches before this election is done

[beam me up scottie]

205. And pearls to clutch! :)

[R B Garr]

221. oh, c'mon. When was the last time you acted like that to your wife?

That was bad.

[Armstead]

225. I see married couples behave like that all the time

And what it looks like to me is that Sanders was giving a combination of victory speech and a stump speech.

In the traditional victory speech, the candidate speaks for ten minutes or so and the family stands on stage throughout. But in a stump speech, the candidate might go on for an hour, and is on stage alone.

Since his speech was a combination, it looked like Sanders wife and (daughter?) were up there in victory speech fashion, and weren't sure whether toi stay or leave the stage. Bernie was signalling that his stump speech (which went on for a long time) was about to start, and it was time for them to leave the stage.

Nothing more than that. He didn't shove her or snap at her. Just gave her a stage direction.

[d_legendary1]

160. 7 likes and 159 replies

Flame bait fer sher.

[d_legendary1]

161. Make that 7 likes and 161 replies

I replied twice. Still flame bait.

[Armstead]

168. That proves it! Sanders is a misogynist who hates his wife!

I knew it. All that cuddly stuff is just an act. They have a troubled marriage.

[HumanityExperiment]

171. Troll bait...

more of the same from the usual suspects

[Autumn]

172. You ever seen Bernie talk? The way he gestures? It's nice his wife

wants to stand by him though . Now to discuss blue nation review a propaganda vehicle owned by a piece of shit who called Anita Hill a beautiful, strong Black woman, a little bit nutty and a little bit slutty. I wouldn't let that fuckwad David Brock stand in the same room with me. That Hillary allows him by her side shows me exactly what she is.

[m-lekktor]

173. The New Civil Rights Movement site apologized and removed their article about this.

I can't picture a slime merchant like Brock doing likewise at media matters.

excerpt:

An Apology

NCRM published an inaccurate and unfair story today, and we apologize.

Sunday afternoon The New Civil Rights Movement published an article on Senator Bernie Sanders with a video showing him speaking to his wife, Dr. Jane Sanders, as the two were onstage. The article inaccurately described their interaction, and even incorrectly reported his words. The Senator appeared to say to Dr. Sanders, "Don't stand there," and we reported that as, "Don't stand next to me."

Worse, however, was the tone of the article. It described the Vermont Senator as a "cad," which we have no reason to believe is fair.

Even if we had gotten these important details correct, the question becomes, was this newsworthy? In an age where the media – sometimes us, included – breathlessly reports what seems like every comment that Donald Trump makes, and now, nearly every comment that Ted Cruz makes, one might say yes, but I do not.

This was not newsworthy, and that we suggested it was by publishing it did a disservice to our readers and to the Senator and his wife. For all this we apologize to our readers and to Senator and Mrs. Sanders. We were wrong. Our readers, and Senator and Dr. Sanders deserve better. Again, we apologize, to you all.

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/an_apology

[polly7]

175. Class. nt.

[Autumn]

180. There's class and then there's trash

The New Civil Rights Movement VS bluenationreview, anything David Brock touches.

[polly7]

181. I had forgotten who that freak was before he aligned himself with Clinton and

started all this ugly garbage, and in the OP ... it makes me furious that he called Anita Hill 'nutty and slutty' after everything those fuckers put her through. Now he's trying to make outrage!!! over an arm wave that Sanders makes probably fifty times a day, and lying about what he said. Anyone that supports this piece of shit is no better than he is, imo. Quite the revealing thread.

[Autumn]

192. The light has been turned on and they have been exposed.

[Bobbie Jo]

174. "The arm gesture, however, is unmistakable."

Sure is.

Damn, that was dismssive as hell.

[polly7]

184. Daaaaamn !!!

lmfao.

[Bobbie Jo]

186. huh?

You okay?

What a bizarre little outburst.

[polly7]

191. Your drama! It's just so off the charts!

And ....................... as fake as a three dollar bill.

[Bobbie Jo]

198. Ok

Whatever that means...

Just so ya know, I'm putting you on ignore. This creepy sniping thing you do from thread to thread ends here, AFAIC.

Take it elsewhere.

[polly7]

199. I'll take it wherever the fuck I want.

When you choose to lie about people you don't get to control the replies.

Bye bye, now ......

[Warren Stupidity]

214. FYI.

UTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service
On Mon Mar 28, 2016, 10:52 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

I'll take it wherever the fuck I want.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1592412

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Just nasty and obnoxious. No, she doesn't get to follow people around all over the board with her off the wall personal attacks. Skinner was clear with his intent to clean this up, I'm taking him at his word.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Mar 28, 2016, 10:59 AM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Nothing inappropriate in that post.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: What a fucking bogus alert. Leave it.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I don't have any problem with it
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Y'know, you already put the poster on ignore, so as far as you're concerned, there's no need for a hide. You've already taken care of it!

This is the kind of stuff that's best handled through PMs, but everybody seems to want to one-up each other in the public forum (Hey! Bet you have small fingers!) so I'll vote to leave it stand and let everybody get a sense of each poster. Just in case they want to exercise their own ignore butto
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Baited and alerted. Knock it off.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[polly7]

217. Thank you. :) nt.

[Puglover]

238. IGNORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh my dear Polly. The discourse you will miss! (As much as I loath that emotican this little tête-à-tête plus the jury comments call for it.)

[polly7]

239. I'm actually quite shattered.

I might miss some great opportunities for learning - I'd hate that.




ok .......... I just did a bit of a search. Scratch that, please.

[beam me up scottie]

209. CALL CONGRESS RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!!

The drama is off the charts, isn't it?

[polly7]

210. I know, but you fell for it for half a second, right??

No?!?!

Me either.

[beam me up scottie]

212. They're afeared for her life, polly! We poor defenseless wimmenz need pertecktin from Bernie!

Who knows what else he's capable of???

[polly7]

216. I know ......... I'm shaking up here for all of you.

I'm waiting next for a backwards video of his to show teh real evil! Be careful, BMUS .... you don't want to get tricked in by no wife-beatin', arm-waving (watch those gestures closely - it's probably some sort of code for misogynist abusers to finally GATHER AS ONE!!) serial abuser.

Just be vewy, vewy careful.

[mariawr]

177. BNR is a Clinton property. nt

[polly7]

219. That right there says it all, imo. nt.

[Marr]

179. Not sure. Maybe when the FBI is finished with Clinton they can look into it. /nt

[BreakfastClub]

187. If Hillary did this, the story would have 10,000 recs and calls for an investigation. nt

[KingFlorez]

203. Right

[Scootaloo]

233. Do you actually believe that?

[frylock]

188. It's gotta suck that this is the best you guys can come up with.

I can't wait to see what nonsense is posted when Huma is being interrogated by the feds.

[cwydro]

215. That's pretty clear..

She looks hurt, but recovered quickly.

Very dismissive.

I've said again and again that I like both our candidates, but the more I see of him - the more I see a not very nice guy.

[stone space]

218. Probably wanted her out of arms reach BEFORE he started to get exuberant.

Had she stood too close to him during his speech, the results could have looked much, much worse.

Then he'd really have some explaining to do!

[Nonhlanhla]

220. This is silly season stuff

Yes, his tone is a bit brusque, but that is normal in a marriage of old standing. It's like shorthand communication between spouses. I'm pretty sure Bernie just did not want her to get hit in the face when he starts waving his arms around, as he is prone to do.

I'm obviously not a Bernie supporter, but I just don't feel the need to make a mountain out of a molehill.

[marions ghost]

224. Thank you

for a rational statement about this.

So he motioned for his wife to move away from his waving hands. If he had accidentally hit her in the face, they would call him a wife beater. She looks like a happy spouse to me, glad to see her out on the campaign trail, obviously an equal partner in the relationship.

Likewise his light brushoff of Hillary when she interrupted what he was saying. What a big deal over nothing. She got her points in, no problem. They both strike a good balance for civil discourse about their widely divergent views, whenever they meet up. It's a lively but polite debate, so different from the RethugliCon brawls. Doesn't help Hillary to be seen as whipped upon by Sanders and needing defense-- makes her look weak--she is perfectly capable of holding her own.

[Ash_F]

222. He just needed to clear a safe zone for the arm waving. /nt

[frylock]

223. Snub or exuberance?

[Svafa]

227. It's from BNR, so I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that it's bullshit.

[Scootaloo]

231. Gettin' desperate there, B.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

241. 12 recommendations, plus the one that the OP gave herself. 13!!!

[PufPuf23]

242. Ugly is as ugly does Bravenak.

[islandmkl]

243. you absolutely have no bottom...

but you are amusing...

[SusanCalvin]

244. Good grief, Brave.... nt

[bravenak]

245. We are pretty much down to the ridiculous.

Exuberance it is.

[SusanCalvin]

246. Just out of curiosity, did something I haven't seen set this off?

(I meant the "good grief" for the post, not Bernie - there's not enough there to know what to think about the link, nor do I know the context of who found and posted the clip, nor why.)

[bravenak]

247. I'm still trying to figure out what he even said

But the fact the people are so upset about it being discussed is just making it take longer to stop being discussed.

I think it was just that he seemed impatient. Then came the slams about Bill in response, and so now this. Just wondering why we can discuss Bill, Monica, Hillary's laugh, her clothes, but not Bernie's impatience.

I honestly think it is a response to the deification and the fact the nobody is allowed to say anything about him, EVER, unless it is favorable.

[SusanCalvin]

248. Got it.

Myself, I thought I heard "don't stand there," pretty clearly. It was abrupt, but apparently the context is he was getting ready to start his speech. I don't know what the location or date is, or who found and posted it, or why. I only looked into it because of the uproar that is apparently going on here.

Oho - so first this was posted (you were not the first?) and then a bunch of counter- stuff was posted? Got it.

Gotta go to bed now - night.

[bravenak]

249. Yep.

Goodnight!!