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Important article about both HRC and Bernie Sanders. (Original Post) healthnut7 Mar 2016 OP
Excellent article. It covers a hell of a lot. Gregorian Mar 2016 #1
This Is Beyond IMPORTANT... IT IS SO SPOT ON THAT IT IS REQUIRED READING FOR ANYONE WHO CARES ABOUT CorporatistNation Mar 2016 #3
Before I read this PATRICK Mar 2016 #6
(no need to shout...) brooklynite Mar 2016 #9
I'm a fan of hard data Hydra Mar 2016 #2
Thank you. 840high Mar 2016 #4
This is really, really good. highprincipleswork Mar 2016 #5
9. Twenty-four. Scuba Mar 2016 #7
Bogus article, cites 1 national poll out of 8 recent, conveniently the only one Bernie leads in. nt CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #8
Number 12 makes another of many excellent points. PotatoChip Mar 2016 #10

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
3. This Is Beyond IMPORTANT... IT IS SO SPOT ON THAT IT IS REQUIRED READING FOR ANYONE WHO CARES ABOUT
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:51 AM
Mar 2016

THE FUTURE OF AMERICA!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/20-reasons-sanders-voters-are-justifiably-angry_b_9544744.html

Absolutely SPOT ON Article! There is not a soul in this country who could have expressed the facts as they are better than you have. The only remaining question is... will enough people listen to reason. Bernie IS THE POSITIVE while Hillary IS THE NEGATIVE. The Corporatist Media are the boots on the ground in 21st century CORPORATIST Amerika. There is is but one final opportunity to save this nation through the restoration of DEMOCRACY that will ONLY occur if Bernie is in the end successful. We will not see another Bernie Sanders again. THIS IS IT... I am sorry to say. Americans must agree to the authentic agent of positive change... Bernie Sanders or live with the consequences. Thanks again Seth. I am a former Democratic Nominee for U.S. House in Florida and a health care professional (ARNP).

PATRICK

(12,228 posts)
6. Before I read this
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 04:59 AM
Mar 2016

I easily came to all the same conclusions, minus understanding the live voting splits. Many others, not your typical fan blinders crowd, have wondered how party pros are really reacting to this fairly undeniable set of facts so crucial to November. How, in fact the voters are and will continue to consistently vote for Sanders and be extremely soft if not indifferent or hostile to Clinton. She is losing, has lost and will continue to lose by the numbers and in quality support by the bucket load. So are the hard bitten regulars, centrist or whatever, so misty-eyed about the Clintons they will move heaven and earth, but maybe not the people, to save us all from a unjustly pushed fiasco maybe the entire world cannot afford?

So on NPR Travis Smiley trundles out Dukakis who reminds us why losers from the past never learn much and are amazingly out of touch. Both talking the point that HRC is the presumptive candidate, that Dukakis says we should have a 50 state grass roots movement- for that set in gravestone candidacy! Well, it was an incredible performance to demonstrate why he disappeared from the stage decades ago and seems only to come back now as some bewildering counterpoint and bemused "expert" about politics.

That is the best they can do, can ever do. Weakness from horizon to horizon in politics, rationality, and vision.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
2. I'm a fan of hard data
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:37 AM
Mar 2016

And Team Hill is not using it. They are using and abusing optics at a time when it's deadly important we address the issues.

Nero fiddles while Rome burns.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
7. 9. Twenty-four.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 08:52 AM
Mar 2016
That’s how many points Bernie Sanders beats Trump by in the latest head-to-head polling — the largest margin between two first-tier major-party candidates that we’ve seen in many election cycles. Sanders beating Trump 58% to 34% could not only give the Democrats the Senate but the House also, and not only the House but possibly a commanding majority in both the House and Senate. Apologies for, you know, wanting that, but it could be a generational shift in the political center of gravity in America.




I'm pretty sure DWS and the rest of the establishment "Democrats" don't want that, nor the expectation that they'd actually do something for the people that would accompany such a majority.

Last time Democrats controlled the White House, Senate and House instead of protecting our votes and voting rights they passed a right-wing health insurance profit-boosting plan.

PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
10. Number 12 makes another of many excellent points.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 10:40 AM
Mar 2016
Please note: I personally don't dislike Hillary, (just her positions on many important issues) and feel a bit uncomfortable posting the first portion of #12. However, it's part of a larger point regarding her viability as our GE candidate if nominated, and one that I don't see brought up very often.

12. Unfortunately, Clinton isn’t just uninspiring. She’s disliked.

Fair or unfair, it’s true.

And it could decide the most important election of our lifetimes — one that could elevate a sociopath to the White House. Please accept and respect the fact that this combination — Clinton’s garish unfavorables and a Donald Trump candidacy — scare the pants off the overwhelming majority of Sanders supporters.

Case-in-point: me. I’m a Sanders supporter. And a Jew. And two weeks ago I wrote an article critical of Donald Trump for The Huffington Post. And immediately received a dozen messages online and at my university email account calling me a “kike” — and two threatening to kill me. It’s Donald Trump who’s bringing out of the gutters this element of American society. So I don’t apologize to anyone for being a pragmatist; the numbers above tell me Sanders will definitely beat Donald Trump, and that Hillary Clinton only might do so. “Might” is not good enough for me right now. Not as a Democrat, not as a Jew, not as an American.

{Emphasis mine}
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