2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumImportant article about both HRC and Bernie Sanders.
This is a must read from Seth Abramson!!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/20-reasons-sanders-voters-are-justifiably-angry_b_9544744.html
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)Thanks.
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)THE FUTURE OF AMERICA!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/20-reasons-sanders-voters-are-justifiably-angry_b_9544744.html
Absolutely SPOT ON Article! There is not a soul in this country who could have expressed the facts as they are better than you have. The only remaining question is... will enough people listen to reason. Bernie IS THE POSITIVE while Hillary IS THE NEGATIVE. The Corporatist Media are the boots on the ground in 21st century CORPORATIST Amerika. There is is but one final opportunity to save this nation through the restoration of DEMOCRACY that will ONLY occur if Bernie is in the end successful. We will not see another Bernie Sanders again. THIS IS IT... I am sorry to say. Americans must agree to the authentic agent of positive change... Bernie Sanders or live with the consequences. Thanks again Seth. I am a former Democratic Nominee for U.S. House in Florida and a health care professional (ARNP).
PATRICK
(12,228 posts)I easily came to all the same conclusions, minus understanding the live voting splits. Many others, not your typical fan blinders crowd, have wondered how party pros are really reacting to this fairly undeniable set of facts so crucial to November. How, in fact the voters are and will continue to consistently vote for Sanders and be extremely soft if not indifferent or hostile to Clinton. She is losing, has lost and will continue to lose by the numbers and in quality support by the bucket load. So are the hard bitten regulars, centrist or whatever, so misty-eyed about the Clintons they will move heaven and earth, but maybe not the people, to save us all from a unjustly pushed fiasco maybe the entire world cannot afford?
So on NPR Travis Smiley trundles out Dukakis who reminds us why losers from the past never learn much and are amazingly out of touch. Both talking the point that HRC is the presumptive candidate, that Dukakis says we should have a 50 state grass roots movement- for that set in gravestone candidacy! Well, it was an incredible performance to demonstrate why he disappeared from the stage decades ago and seems only to come back now as some bewildering counterpoint and bemused "expert" about politics.
That is the best they can do, can ever do. Weakness from horizon to horizon in politics, rationality, and vision.
brooklynite
(94,794 posts)Hydra
(14,459 posts)And Team Hill is not using it. They are using and abusing optics at a time when it's deadly important we address the issues.
Nero fiddles while Rome burns.
840high
(17,196 posts)highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)I'm pretty sure DWS and the rest of the establishment "Democrats" don't want that, nor the expectation that they'd actually do something for the people that would accompany such a majority.
Last time Democrats controlled the White House, Senate and House instead of protecting our votes and voting rights they passed a right-wing health insurance profit-boosting plan.
CalvinballPro
(1,019 posts)PotatoChip
(3,186 posts)Fair or unfair, its true.
And it could decide the most important election of our lifetimes one that could elevate a sociopath to the White House. Please accept and respect the fact that this combination Clintons garish unfavorables and a Donald Trump candidacy scare the pants off the overwhelming majority of Sanders supporters.
Case-in-point: me. Im a Sanders supporter. And a Jew. And two weeks ago I wrote an article critical of Donald Trump for The Huffington Post. And immediately received a dozen messages online and at my university email account calling me a kike and two threatening to kill me. Its Donald Trump whos bringing out of the gutters this element of American society. So I dont apologize to anyone for being a pragmatist; the numbers above tell me Sanders will definitely beat Donald Trump, and that Hillary Clinton only might do so. Might is not good enough for me right now. Not as a Democrat, not as a Jew, not as an American.
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