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(85,995 posts)
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 09:36 AM Mar 2016

Oped by Hillary Clinton in NY Daily News: "Take dead aim against gun violence"

Jesse Ferguson ‏@JesseFFerguson 23h23 hours ago
Oped by @HillaryClinton in NY Daily News - "Hillary Clinton: Take dead aim against gun violence" http://m.nydailynews.com/opinion/hillary-clinton-dead-aim-gun-violence-article-1.2578190 … #ImWithHer


Clinton holds hands with Sybrina Fulton, mother of Trayvon Martin

Hillary Clinton: Take dead aim against gun violence

If you're a parent in Brownsville, Mott Haven or a handful of other New York neighborhoods, you live every day with the fear of gun violence harming your family. If you live in Manhattan, however, the city's as safe as it's ever been. As others have observed, life in New York can feel like a tale of two cities.

In 2012, the Daily News reported that just five of New York's 76 police precincts account for a quarter of all shootings. If you're reading this from one of the 71 other precincts, the epidemic of gun violence may feel like something from another world. In some zip codes, a full year can pass without a single murder being committed.

That hasn't always been the case, of course. Back in 1990, the city saw an astounding 2,262 murders. Yet by 2014, that number had fallen to 333 — marking the lowest murder rate in New York City since these statistics were first recorded.

This positive trend is a remarkable achievement, but it fails to tell the full story of neighborhoods in New York where concentrated gun violence still plagues too many families.

Last November in Chicago, I met with a group of mothers from across the country who have lived that nightmare — moms of children like Jordan Davis from Jacksonville, Florida, who was 17 when he died; Trayvon Martin from Sanford, Florida, also 17; and Hadiya Pendleton from Chicago, just 15 when she was killed. They were just doing what kids do: playing music, walking home from the store, talking with friends in a park in broad daylight — and they all ended up shot to death.

At the very moment I was speaking with these mothers, not far away, a 9-year-old boy named Tyshawn Lee was executed in an alley, shot six times on his way to visit his grandmother. Sirens blared, headlines flashed and another life was taken too soon.

An average of 90 people a day are killed by gun violence in the U.S. Thousands of parents every year have to bury their children. Imagine it. You pour your heart and soul into raising your kids, teaching them about the world, listening to every worry, cheering every victory, and encouraging them to dream big dreams and doing everything you can to help them achieve them. And then one day, a distant siren, an unexpected phone call, or a breaking news alert on TV could mean that someone with a gun has taken all those dreams away.

It's time — long past time — that we do what it takes to put a stop to it.

Not just in some neighborhoods or some cities — but in every corner of this country where guns continue to destroy innocent lives.
Hillary Clinton holds flowers as she visits the Kids Off the Block memorial in Chicago, which pays tribute to children that were killed by gun violence.

There are some common-sense steps we can take that are fully consistent with the law and Constitution to finally begin to tackle this scourge.

First, we need to repeal the law that gives the gun industry sweeping liability protections, so companies that make and sell guns can be held accountable when their products kill people. When the NRA pushed that misguided law through Congress, they said that preventing lawsuits was their top legislative priority. Now it's making it harder for families who lost children in the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Connecticut, to sue Bushmaster for marketing its AR-15 assault rifle to civilians. As President, I'll stand with the families victimized by guns, not the corporations that profit from them.

Second, we should implement comprehensive background checks. President Obama recently issued several executive orders designed to strengthen this federal system. Surveys have shown that even 85% of gun owners favor these checks. And it's hard to believe that we still allow people on the no-fly list to purchase firearms. I think it's pretty simple: If it's too dangerous for you to be allowed on an airplane, it's too dangerous for you to own a gun.

Third, we need to close the so-called "Charleston loophole." Right now, a person with an arrest record can walk into a gun store to buy a gun, and if their background check isn't completed within three business days, they can walk out with a firearm. It makes absolutely no sense. More than 55,000 gun sales that would otherwise have been blocked have been allowed to proceed because of this loophole. One of them was the gun bought by the white supremacist who murdered nine parishioners at Mother Emanuel Church in Charleston last year.

It may be hard to believe, but this loophole isn't the result of some accidental oversight in the law. It was created by a stand-alone amendment designed and written by the gun lobby.

Nothing's changed: The latest mass shooting in America left 12 dead after gunmen targeted Inland Regional Center in San Bernardino, California on Dec. 2, 2015. Instead of offering solutions, politicians chose to offer prayers.

This highlights a genuine difference in the Democratic presidential primary. On each of these critical issues — legal protections for gun makers, background checks and the Charleston loophole — my opponent voted with the NRA. In one recent debate, he defended one of these votes, and the NRA even tweeted that Senator Sanders "was spot-on in his comments about guns."

If the NRA thinks you're doing a good job, that's a pretty good indication that something's very wrong.

Of course, all of the Republican candidates march in lockstep with the gun lobby.

Donald Trump has called the NRA's efforts to stop gun safety reforms "invaluable." He has vowed to "un-sign" all of President Obama's executive actions to strengthen background checks. And he has pledged that on his very first day in office he would override laws that prevent people from carrying guns into schools.

When he isn't cooking bacon on the barrel of an automatic rifle, Ted Cruz is earning his lifetime NRA "A+ rating" in the Senate by voting against comprehensive background checks. He even signed a letter pledging to "oppose any legislation" to address gun violence.

It's time we stand up to the Republicans and the gun lobby and stand with parents who have lost their children to gun violence.

I have no illusions about how hard the politics around this issue are, but I refuse to sit on the sidelines while more children die. I am convinced that the majority of Americans — and the majority of gun owners — agree on the need for common-sense safety reforms. And I know that progress is possible, even on this most difficult issue, because we've done it before.

As First Lady, I advocated for the Brady Bill, which created the federal background check system, and for banning assault weapons, which have no place on our streets. As New York's senator, I worked to close the gun-show loophole and stand up against the bill that protected irresponsible gun makers and dealers from legal liability.

As a candidate for President, I've met and spoken with too many grieving parents to give up this fight. Some of the mothers I met last year have become advocates for reform. They call themselves Mothers of the Movement, and they say they're "turning their sorrow into a strategy and their mourning into a movement."

Recently, I joined some of these mothers to visit a memorial in Chicago to children killed by gun violence. It's made up of more than 500 stones, each representing a dead child. One of those children was only a year old.

Standing before those stones, I pledged once more that as a mother, a grandmother and hopefully one day as President, I will work to save and protect the lives of our nation's children.

We have to stand with parents who have lost children in New York and in communities all over America, and not rest until every child can walk safely down any street in every neighborhood and every borough.


read: http://m.nydailynews.com/opinion/hillary-clinton-dead-aim-gun-violence-article-1.2578190


Hillary Clinton holds flowers as she visits the Kids Off the Block memorial in Chicago, which pays tribute to children that were killed by gun violence. Justin Sullivan/Getty Images
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Oped by Hillary Clinton in NY Daily News: "Take dead aim against gun violence" (Original Post) bigtree Mar 2016 OP
Now if she only felt the same about arm deals NWCorona Mar 2016 #1
This is about guns of smaller calibre... Orsino Mar 2016 #6
and in shipping weapons to God knows who in Libya and Syria AgerolanAmerican Mar 2016 #7
Thanks! LAS14 Mar 2016 #2
So H isn't like Annie Oakley anymore wendylaroux Mar 2016 #3
depends on where she's campaigning ibegurpard Mar 2016 #4
Yup,exactly! nt wendylaroux Mar 2016 #5
Hillary and Obama Show, 2008: A Retrospective: Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #8
Words! lol wendylaroux Mar 2016 #11
The video is even better, Obama nailed it: beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #17
IMO, Clinton's remark "I'll take dead aim at gun violence" is classic Clinton weasel words. ladjf Mar 2016 #9
Where is Bernie Sanders' gun control plan? bigtree Mar 2016 #10
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #12
I have heard Bernie explain his position on gun control and how the thinks ladjf Mar 2016 #18
I agree with most of what she suggests, but I still don't see how you can hold Vinca Mar 2016 #13
It's all she has to work with AgingAmerican Mar 2016 #15
It's politics. An NRA congress, a supreme court's loose interp of the second amendment... EndElectoral Mar 2016 #16
Then there's this pinebox Mar 2016 #14
 

AgerolanAmerican

(1,000 posts)
7. and in shipping weapons to God knows who in Libya and Syria
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 10:40 AM
Mar 2016

and here I filled out my moderate rebel form and didn't get a single TOW!

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
8. Hillary and Obama Show, 2008: A Retrospective:
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 10:47 AM
Mar 2016

Obama:
"She is running around talking about how this is an insult to sportsman, how she values the Second Amendment. She's talking like she's Annie Oakley, Hillary Clinton is out there like she's on the duck blind every Sunday. She's packing a six-shooter. Come on, she knows better. That's some politics being played by Hillary Clinton."

Clinton:
"What I favor is what works in New York. You know, we have a set of rules in New York City, and we have a totally different set of rules in the rest of the state. What might work in New York City is certainly not going to work in Montana.

So for the federal government to be having any kind of, you know, blanket rules that they're going to try to impose I think doesn't make sense."


Clinton Portrays Herself as a Pro-Gun Churchgoer
By Julie Bosman April 12, 2008 6:09 pm
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/12/clinton-portrays-herself-as-a-pro-gun-churchgoer/?_r=1

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
9. IMO, Clinton's remark "I'll take dead aim at gun violence" is classic Clinton weasel words.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:27 AM
Mar 2016

It's right up there with "Europe needs to have stronger anti-terror laws". or "I'll look into that matter".

Her proposals usually have little or no information about how the proposal could be carried out.


bigtree

(85,995 posts)
10. Where is Bernie Sanders' gun control plan?
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:53 AM
Mar 2016
https://berniesanders.com/issues/


Hillary will:

Strengthen background checks and close dangerous loopholes in the current system.

Hold irresponsible dealers and manufacturers accountable.

Keep guns out of the hands of terrorists, domestic abusers, other violent criminals, and the severely mentally ill.

As president, Hillary will increase the number of gun sales subject to background checks:

Comprehensive federal background check legislation. Background checks reduce gun trafficking, reduce the lethality of domestic violence, and reduce unlawful gun transfers to dangerous individuals. It is reprehensible that bipartisan legislation supporting background checks failed in Congress after the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School. But Hillary is not giving up—she will continue to fight for legislation to build on the Brady Bill’s success.

Closing the “Charleston Loophole.” Hillary will push Congress to close the loophole that allows a gun sale to proceed without a completed background check if that check has not been completed within three days. This loophole allowed the alleged Charleston shooter to purchase a gun even though he had a criminal record.

Tightening the gun show and Internet sales loophole if Congress won’t. If Congress refuses to act, Hillary will take administrative action to require that any person attempting to sell a significant number of guns abide by the same commonsense rules that apply to gun stores—including requiring background checks on gun sales.

To ensure that the safety of our communities is prioritized over the profits of the gun lobby, Hillary will also:

Repeal the gun industry’s unique immunity protection. Hillary believes the gun industry must be held accountable for violence perpetrated with their guns. Hillary will lead the charge to repeal the so-called “Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act,” a dangerous law that prevents victims of gun violence from holding negligent manufacturers and dealers accountable for violence perpetrated with their guns.

Revoke the licenses of bad-actor dealers. Hillary believes we must do more to crack down on gun stores that flood our communities with illegal guns. As president, she will provide funding to increase inspections and aggressively enforce current law by revoking the licenses of dealers that knowingly supply straw purchasers and traffickers.

Hillary will fight to keep guns out of the hands of domestic abusers, other violent criminals, and the severely mentally ill:

Support legislation to stop domestic abusers from buying and possessing guns. Although federal law generally prohibits domestic abusers from purchasing or possessing guns, this protection does not apply to people in dating relationships or convicted stalkers. Hillary will fight for legislation to prohibit all of these domestic abusers and stalkers from buying guns.

Make straw purchasing a federal crime. When an individual with a clean record buys a gun with the intention of giving it to a violent felon—only so that felon can avoid a background check—it should be a crime. Hillary will fight to make so-called “straw purchasing” a federal crime.

Close loopholes that let persons suffering from severe mental illness purchase and possess guns. Hillary will fight to improve existing law prohibiting persons suffering from severe mental illness from purchasing or possessing a gun. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives should finalize its rulemaking to close loopholes in our laws and clarify that people involuntarily committed to outpatient treatment, such as the Virginia Tech shooter, are prohibited from buying guns.

Keep military-style weapons off our streets. Military-style assault weapons do not belong on our streets. They are a danger to law enforcement and to our communities. Hillary will work to keep assault weapons off our streets and supports reinstating the assault weapons ban.


Response to bigtree (Reply #10)

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
18. I have heard Bernie explain his position on gun control and how the thinks
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 03:02 PM
Mar 2016

it should be dealt with.

I'm very familiar with Clinton's campaign speak. I'm not going to spend any more time of this
post. If you want to declare yourself the winner if this debate . Go ahead and enjoy yourself.

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
13. I agree with most of what she suggests, but I still don't see how you can hold
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:31 PM
Mar 2016

a manufacturer responsible for a crime when a product is legally manufactured, legally sold to a distributor and then legally sold to a buyer. You can't hold Ford Motor Co. liable when a DUI driver runs over someone. You can't sue the Swiss Army Knife company if someone stabs you. It seems you would first have to make guns illegal to manufacture, buy and sell and then we're back to the Second Amendment and the Heller decision that lets every Tom, Dick and Nutball own a gun.

EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)
16. It's politics. An NRA congress, a supreme court's loose interp of the second amendment...
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:42 PM
Mar 2016

You may get some executive orders in place for background checks that will be challenged by the NRA, but unless the second amendment language is altered and clarified to restrict guns, then seriously doubt meaningful legislation can be passed and make it through the courts.

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