Huff Post this morning: Time for Hillary to Concede to Bernie

[grasswire]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/its-time-for-hillary-clin_b_9555422.html

With Bernie Sanders now slightly ahead of Clinton nationally in the latest Bloomberg poll, it’s time to reevaluate the meaning of pragmatism. Hillary Clinton might be ahead of Bernie Sanders in delegates, but Vermont’s Senator has a monopoly on political momentum. Sadly, his opponent has a monopoly on controversy, and will face FBI interviews in the near future. A Los Angeles Times article titled Clinton email probe enters new phase as FBI interviews loom highlights why Clinton’s campaign is stuck in political quicksand:


Much, much more at link.

[grasswire]

1. more

It’s time for Democrats to deal with reality, not just allegiance to a political icon, and rally around the only candidate not linked to an FBI investigation, and other controversies. With recent victories and future wins ahead, Bernie Sanders has all the political momentum heading towards Election Day. Most importantly, Bernie Sanders is the only leading candidate with positive favorability ratings in 2016.

Hillary Clinton has negative favorability ratings in ten national polls. When people forget about Trump’s rallies, and the billionaire pivots to his former identity as a Democrat (“I probably identify more as a Democrat”), then the Clinton campaign is in big trouble.

In terms of these favorability polls, Hillary Clinton holds negative ratings by an over 10-point margin in 9 of these polls.

The fact that in 9 out of 10 national polls, Clinton is viewed in a negative manner by an over 10-point margin should worry anyone fearing Trump, or a Republican White House.

[KingFlorez]

2. Hell naw, baby

Whatever this author is drinking must be high proof, because their mind is addled. On no planet do you asked the candidate with a double digit popular vote lead and a big delegate lead to defer to the opposition. The arrogance and entitlement of such a request is stunning.

[Gwhittey]

4. "entitlement "

Your elephant tail is showing

[KingFlorez]

10. It's an accurate assessment

Your lack of critical thinking is showing.

[Gwhittey]

39. Wow

This is same thing I get called on by people on GOP forums. They always say Dems are not critical thinkers.

[artislife]

27. +1

[NWCorona]

7. Hillary should stay in

Until she shouldn't.

[onehandle]

3. Cool story, bro. nt

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

5. It is time for Democrats to unite behind Brother Sanders! nt

[grasswire]

6. Jimmy? Is that you?

I've been hoping that Jimmy Carter will campaign for Bernie.

[NWCorona]

11. How sweet would that be!

[KingFlorez]

15. FOR HE IS THE ANOINTED SAVIOR!

[Ed Suspicious]

20. Better that than the anointed asshole.

But I suppose you probably disagree.

[KingFlorez]

22. Actually, that categorization applies better

"Don't stand there!" *shoos*

Speaks volumes...

[upaloopa]

8. H A where have you been we have missed you!

[NWCorona]

12. He's much better than David Brock

[upaloopa]

52. At what?

[NWCorona]

54. At being a human being

But probably everything really.

[CalvinballPro]

9. Typical HA Goodman tripe. There were 8 national polls last week, why does only 1 matter?

Oh, right, only 1 shows Bernie leading, that's why. Clinton's still +9 on the average polling.

[Beacool]

18. This is the part that's even funnier about the Bloomberg poll: Sanders 49% - Hillary 48%

Sanders is ahead on that poll by a whopping 1%. Oh no, Hilary should quit the race today!!!!




P.S. Hillary is ahead in every other poll.

[Beacool]

13. LOL!!!!

[RufusTFirefly]

14. The Clinton campaign reminds me of the optimist who jumps off the Empire State Building

As he passes the 86th floor, you can hear him saying, "So far, so good!"

[Beacool]

23. Why would the candidate who is ahead in both pledged delegates and the popular vote drop out???

Only in the parallel world that Goodman seems to inhabit.

[Cobalt Violet]

37. “The FBI is indeed conducting a criminal investigation.”

of Hillary, not Bernie. Time to get real.

[Beacool]

41. Yeah, so?

If something comes out of it, then she'll deal with it. In the meantime, steady as she goes.

[Cobalt Violet]

46. You really think it's a good idea to run a candidate like that in the general?

You might see it that way but that is poison.

[Beacool]

49. She will be fine.

To the chagrin of her opponents.

[Cobalt Violet]

50. She needs independents to win.

They don't like or trust her now. As this gets worse (and it will) she really won't be able to get their vote.

[Ash_F]

16. 15 posts in the time it took me to read that article.

[auntpurl]

17. ha ha no

[Proud Liberal Dem]

19. Good fantasy reading material

The delegate math will determine the nominee, not some subjective notion of "political momentum" (which Hillary Clinton actually has more of in terms of votes/delegates). While the race is obviously not "over" yet, Clinton still has a healthy lead and a much more realistic path to the nomination than Sanders does. I also wouldn't hang your hat on FBI interviews removing Clinton from contention either (I know that it's every Republican and some Sanders supporter's fondest wish). An interview does NOT mean that they will find wrongdoing. I suppose that now we should believe that getting interviewed by the police means that one is automatically guilty of something? Does anybody remember, "Innocent until proven guilty"? Bueller?

[thereismore]

29. From presumptive nominee to insurmountable lead to healthy lead to evaporating lead to losing.

That's the trajectory she is on.

[peacebird]

31. When will the FBI decide on whether or not to bring charges?

Because I just don't see the FBI spending 150 agents time investigating something unless they have a pretty good idea something criminal occurred.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

32. She could pretty much coast at this point (though she won't)

Bernie has to blowout pretty much all of the remaining contests, which, odds are, he won't. Anyway, no matter what, as long as she walks into the convention with the majority of pledged delegates, she will be the nominee.

[thereismore]

35. Nope. He needs to take 56.5% of the remaining delegates, which does not require a blowout anywhere.

Or he can go 50-50 all the war to CA and OR and win big there and she will have lost.

[litlbilly]

44. coast right off the cliff maybe. Open your eyes.

[Cobalt Violet]

21. yes time for her to put her country 1st for change.

Hey she can go on with her 1/4 million dollar speaking gigs but she really shouldn't be playing this dangerous game with the country.

[VulgarPoet]

28. She'll never do it.

Didn't you hear? "By the people, for the people" and the concept of a politician being a statesman that represents their people has been toe-tagged since Bush Sr. and Bill Clinton.

[StevieM]

58. Putting her country first means allowing your preferred candidate to win?

I hardly think it is selfish to not drop out of a race that you are winning.

[Cobalt Violet]

60. She is doing very poorly with independents.

She will need their support to win. The FBI investigation won't help at all with that one bit.

[MineralMan]

24. H. A. Goodman speaks.

So far, every time he does, the opposite occurs. He's batting almost 1000 at getting it wrong. So, please proceed, Mr. Goodman. You just keep up with thinking. It helps us to predict the future. If you say it, it's sure not to happen.

[JoePhilly]

25. The George Costanza of pundits!!!

[zappaman]

26. HA Goodman wants the current leader in votes and delegate to quit?

Who woulda thunk it?

[still_one]

30. Too bad they left off the other national polls at the same time frame which showed Hillary winning

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1017&pid=343890

However, that you posted from one of the worst political hacks in the business who is notoriously wrong about everything, really demonstrates desperation

[grasswire]

33. Huff post's bit of sugar sure has attracted the ants on this one!

Cheer up, peeps! This is only the beginning of the drum beat. Best eat yer cheerios and lay in some Gatorade. It's going to be bumpy.

[shadowandblossom]

64. I like your quote.

It's lovely.

[Gothmog]

34. HA Goodman can always be counted on for a laugh

Why do sanders supporters keep posting stuff from this idiot

[SidDithers]

36. Goodman. LOL...

They guy who predicted Hillary would finish 3rd in Iowa.



Sid

[NuclearDem]

38. I just knew who the author was before I even clicked the link.

[shadowandblossom]

40. She's 3 laps ahead and the finish line's in site.

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I just don't see that happening.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

42. The perception of wrongdoing is often as damaging is the reality of wrongdoing.

[grasswire]

43. especially in Washington.

Perception is reality.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

45. Especially among voters in a general election.

[Cobalt Violet]

51. her supporters really don't get that at all.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

55. Oh, they get it. That's why they're trying so hard to whitewash it. i.

i.e. "It was just a mistake", "Other people do it", "Just a RW smear", "Nobody's paying attention to it", etc.

IMO, she just screwed up and got caught flaunting her power and hubris. But, other people suspect there was real wrongdoing.

[Tarc]

47. So another whiny HA Goodman screed about a +1 poll and emailgate?

[geek tragedy]

48. .

[Nonhlanhla]

53. I knew this was Goodman before I even opened the thread

since only he can be this delusional.

OK, him, and some other Bernie supporters.

[riversedge]

56. so did I. Why do Sanders fans continue to post such garbage?

[immoderate]

57. Surrender Hillary!!11!

--imm

[Codeine]

59. Same ignorant dumbfuck who said Clinton would finish 3rd in Iowa.

You guys always insist you don't take his bullshit seriously but it's really quite evident that you buy it all.

[Herman4747]

61. She's far too SELFISH to concede. n/t

[Zira]

62. And she should!

For breaking federal law and deleting 30,000 pieces of evidence that the Justice Department luckily undeleted.

[StevieM]

63. Only in the 2016 Democratic Party is the leading candidate labeled selfish for not conceding to

an opponent who she is defeating.

If Bernie had earned the nomination then this article wouldn't be necessary.

If the voters agree with this article then there should be no problem. Hillary will start to lose everywhere.

But what if that doesn't happen? What if Hillary wins NY and PA and NJ and CA? Do we still give the nomination to Bernie if he gets fewer delegates and fewer votes?

Don't the voters have the right to turn down Bernie's candidacy? And if defeating him at the polls isn't the way of doing that....what is?

[Starry Messenger]

65. Someone is going to have to talk that guy out of the trees when this is all over.

[amborin]

66. and this explains the desperate smears

[JaneyVee]

67. kick