The Bernie/Jane video vs. The Superpredator Video and the Clinton Marriage

[bravenak]

I can see some folks are upset about the posting of a publically available video of Bernie and Jane on stage during an event. This is strange to me since I see videos posted out of context featuring Hillary. As a matter of fact, many go out of their way to bring up the troubles in the Marriage of Hillary and Bill Clinton. I have no idea why people who feel comfortable discussing the infidelities of Bill, are suddenly outraged over the posting of a video of Bernie and Jane together. They keep saying it is posted out of context, is a dirty attack, is desparate, but I see none of them defending Hillary and Bill's marriage nor do I see them bring up the fact that the Superpredators video was taken out of contest.

Let's discuss!

[snooper2]

1. Bernie was just making room for the next bird landing

His wife should have known better


LOL

[bravenak]

4. I just do not understand the bird thingy

[snooper2]

12. Apparently a bird landed on his podium recently...Crowd reacted like tweens seeing Justin Bieber

Fairly comical to watch the video...

You would have thought the man just turned water into Miller Light or snapped his fingers and all toxic sites in the country disappeared

[bravenak]

15. Thank god you said that

You saw what I saw, then

[Jackie Wilson Said]

37. I thought it was an awesome moment, the bird. I thought the symbolism

was amazing.

I hope, and pray, the reason you are being so flippant and insulting about it is because you have been subjected to repeated attacks by certain Bernie supporters, you have watched them all day everyday attack Hillary and anyone who supports her and it has made you so angry that you are saying this.

I hope that is why, because then I can understand it.

[Number23]

67. I said pretty much the exact same thing in another thread and got four people who whined "I feel soo

sorry for you and I wish you happiness" in response.



A cute and sweet moment. But nothing more than that and the reaction has actually been quite unsettling and creepy to watch.

[hollysmom]

20. Well, it is hard when you are looking for something there there, it was a bird and

Kind of like in the cinderella movies, except this was a real bird, an endangered bird, and was welcomed, unlike the Donald trump with an eagle video - but here is the great part - you don't have to get it, it doesn't matter if you don't get it, you can just move on to other things and not worry about it and let other people have a good time with it. nothing negative about it, just a good time. isn't that a good way to look at it?
Hillary can have a good moment laughing with her daughter and I don't feel I have to turn in to something negative, just a nice mother daughter moment that you can enjoy and I don't have to get it or say something mean about it.

edited for fat fingers.

[bravenak]

24. I was just saying I did not get it

That's not mean

[hollysmom]

28. no ,it is not, but why do you feel you have to get it? why not just say, eh and move on?

that is what I don't get.
Most things posted here are not my concern, even though I have to admit a weakness to reply to puppy pictures

[bravenak]

36. Why do you have to worry about why I discuss not getting it instead of just saying 'meh'

Who cares what she gets or not!

Pretty much applies.

[Number23]

69. Haven't you figured out by now that you don't have the right to ask people who are hostile and

aggressive with you EVERY SINGLE CHANCE that they get to leave you alone? People who if you say "lol" will type a 16 paragraph screed in response about how wrong you are and how you are the devil incarnate are not the problem, YOU are the problem for daring to ask that they just leave you the hell alone.

When are you going to get that???

[bravenak]

70. Awww!!!

I's jus so bad.

I hope whoever it is knows I havent seen a post from them all week. Nice really.

I will just keep doing exactly what I have been doing. I hope they have havin a BLAST yelling and howling with outrage over lil ol me, who can't see them anyway.

[ThePhilosopher04]

22. Not surprised.

[lunamagica]

40. Let me explain: Nicolas Maduro said Hugo Chavez spirit took the form of a birdie and talks to him

The birdie at Sanders podium s none other than Chavez giving Bernie his blessing

[bravenak]

43. Bwaaahaaahaahaa!!

[riversedge]

34. ok, that gave me a good laugh

[George II]

80. Right. I didn't hear Sanders say "don't stand next to me" to the bird, but he did say it elsewhere.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

2. So if it's on the Internet, it's ok to repost it? Good to know, bravenak. Good to know.

[berni_mccoy]

3. Not even close to comparable. Keep trying your sleeze tactics though

You represent Hillary well.

[bravenak]

5. Umm hmmm

[berni_mccoy]

7. You should rec your own thread.

[bravenak]

9. I will, thx

[berni_mccoy]

13. Good because that's the only thing that could be more pathetic than the post by itself

I needed to see it just to know the OP wasn't the complete bottom of the barrel. Now it is and there can be no doubt.

[bravenak]

17. Good grief

[MrWendel]

77. Have you...

read your own OP's ?

[berni_mccoy]

78. They sure as shit don't stink like this one.

[MrWendel]

79. Of course...

you don't think your shit stinks.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

6. i can't defend the Clinton's marriage. i would have dumped his ass.

Edited to be clear

[bravenak]

8. Me too

Not the point.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

16. oh, i thought we were discussing the differences between the two couples

My bad

[jillan]

23. I did dump my husband's ass for the same thing, not that he cheated but that he lied. But then again

I did not need him to get ahead with my future plans for my life.

[polly7]

10. You love attention. We get that. nt.

[snooper2]

14. Hey, you are only 7140 posts away!

[polly7]

31. from what? Oh - d'oh!, I get it, though that has nothing to do with my post.

2 years.

11 years.


How many flame-bait OP's to falsely lie about and smear a good man and his wife ......... but what's another 2 or 5 if you get to be the star in each?

[beam me up scottie]

68. ^^^THIS^^^

More gossip about Bernie's marriage, how church lady of them.

[Puglover]

85. Just please tell me.

Why does anyone respond to this vacuous bullshit? I will never get it unless is boils down to people like to argue on the internets?

It cannot possibly be for any other reason.

[HumanityExperiment]

11. Troll bait...

again more of the same from the usual suspects

[longship]

18. The narrative surrounding it is utter rubbish.

That's first.

Second, they misquote Bernie to make it seem more sinister. In other words, they outright lie.

Third, it can be fairly characterized as a smarmy and not too "artful smear".

And then there's the thing of Hillary hypocritically saying today that she won't debate Bernie because of his attacks.


Let's start with those facts.

In other words, you've got nothing to stand on here. Nothing!

[bravenak]

19. I still have no idea what he said and did not quote him

[longship]

35. Then, why in the Sam Hell did you post this OP??

For Christ sakes, bravenak. Do you know how that sounds? That you comment on something that you haven't even paid attention to?

Ah!! I understand. It is something that the Clinton campaign is trumpeting so you're just going to uncritically parrot it.

[bravenak]

39. I posted it to say, why is it that it is wrong to post the video?

[longship]

44. Because it is being misused by Clinton to make a personal attack.

That is why!

Sheesh!

[bravenak]

46. Ok. Just like the superpredator video

[longship]

49. I don't think that one came from Bernie's campaign.

[bravenak]

51. And this video did not come from the Clinton campaign

[longship]

57. But the narrative clearly did!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And without that, we wouldn't be hearing about it here from the Hillary supporters who take orders from the campaign even when it is a smarmy smear, and a lying one at that.

I am done with you on this one, my friend. I have said what I needed to say.

My best to you.

[whatchamacallit]

84. Many disagree

[MoonRiver]

47. I haven't heard that Clinton issued a statement about it.

[longship]

52. It was her staffers, Brock et al, her surrogates. nt

[MoonRiver]

60. Not doubting you, but do you have a link from them?

[longship]

62. It is documented in one of the numerous threads on the topic.

Sorry, I am limited to an iPhone right now, so finding it will be a problem for me.

But it's here somewhere, with links to the source.

[Armstead]

71. Blue Nation Review -- Owned by Brock

[Barack_America]

21. So the Clintons, whose marriage has been under unfair scrutiny for decades...

...decide to try to smear another couple in the same way?

Reminds me exactly why I dislike them so.

But hey, whatever you have to do to distract from that FBI investigation, eh?

[bravenak]

27. The Clinton's did not post that video

I saw it in real time, I think. It was a way longer version I saw then folks cut it up but the context remained intact.

[longship]

38. No, they just posted the lying narrative surrounding it!

Now maybe you understand why Bernie supporters are kind of up in arms over it.

[bravenak]

41. I don't think that is accurate.

It was posted on BNR.

[longship]

45. Check it out. The narrative came from Brock.

[bravenak]

48. He is not Clinton

[longship]

66. Campaign staff, bravenak. Campaign staff.

Bye.

[beam me up scottie]

65. Yes it did and her supporters brought it here.

Gossiping and snickering over it like church ladies.

[dragonfly301]

33. +1,000,000 eom

[Svafa]

42. +1

[MoonRiver]

25. He's definitely not my type, lol.

But hey, if curmudgeon rocks Jane's boat, why should I care!

[bravenak]

32. Mine either!!!!

[salinsky]

26. It certainly is odd ...

... to see Bernie supporters using the exact same putrid lines of attack against Hillary that Trump is prepared to use, but then get completely butthurt when shown a video clip of Bernie being openly dismissive of this wife.

Strange days ...

[bravenak]

29. I get so tired of the right wing and their smear machine and Trump is the worst

I hope people are not being fooled by these tactics.

[DemonGoddess]

30. +1000!

Completely agree.

[bettyellen]

50. I will say there is no reason to be judging anyone's marriage- unless they are fake moralists....

who are trying to legislate others in the bedroom. That goes for Sanders as much as it does for Hillary.

[bravenak]

53. I agree

[stonecutter357]

54. K&R!

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[bravenak]

56. Thank you!

[Bluenorthwest]

55. The Clinton Marriage was the reason they became twisted anti gay bullshit artists whing about faith

and Gawd. Their own 'issues' maritally speaking caused them to use LGBT as a smokescreen, like millions of hypocritical lying straights before them. Bill had to defend marriage from the gays. Not from himself.

Hyper typical of married same sex couples. Abusive and bigoted and always pointing the finger at others to distract from the fetid and corrupt thing that is their own life.

I look at Bill and Hillary and Monica and whomever and just think 'Straight people, when they are not at Church weeping to Jesus they are in the beds of their neighbor's spouses, it was ever thus'.


Oh, and more Straight Folk's Context:

[beam me up scottie]

58. Yep, her marriage was so sacred she had to try to prevent gay people from marrying.

Amazing hypocrisy from Hillary and her supporters.

[Bluenorthwest]

59. They are the far right wing of the Party, Conservative Reagan Democrat types, the exact cohort we

have fought against our entire lives with their bigotries and hang ups.

[beam me up scottie]

61. They schmoozed with lgbt people while trying to deny their right to marry.

And now she's being called a champion for lgbt rights, it's bizarre.

[Bluenorthwest]

63. First publically aduterous First Couple brings us the Defense of Marriage Act. Irony, thy name is

Clinton.

[beam me up scottie]

64. And her supporters accuse Bernie of mistreating his wife.

You just can't make this stuff up, the punchlines write themselves.

[Warren DeMontague]

72. Im not upset about the Bernie/Jane thing.

If some people want to talk about it instead of actual issues, great.

At least it gives us a berniebit of a berniebreak from berniebeing berniebombarded with berniebargle about "berniebros".

[bravenak]

73. That is a good way to look at things

[Warren DeMontague]

74. Totally.

Cant take DU too seriously. Life- way too short.

[bravenak]

75. You got that right!

[ThePhilosopher04]

76. Typical of Clinton supporters to draw false analogies when they have nothing else

Disgusting.

[SalviaBlue]

81. Why start a new post? You already have a post about this.

It's dropping off the page so I guess its time to stir it up again.

[bravenak]

82. Because I wanted to post this too.

[krawhitham]

83. he swings his arms around when he talks and he has hit her before while doing so

That is why he wanted her to move

[Cha]

86. That's one of their go to memes.. "taken out of context".. So what was the "context" this time?

[bravenak]

87. Nobody has given a real answer. As usual.

[Cha]

88. lol