What if POC act like Bernie supporters

[wilt the stilt]

and say they won't vote for Bernie because of principles. Do you think Bernie can win in the GE without the POC's vote?

[Trust Buster]

1. Who's the POC ?

[aidbo]

2. People of color.

[Trust Buster]

7. Thanks.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

3. Which principles?

[SHRED]

8. OP is just flinging it

Like the mistakes the HRC campaign has made today.

[wilt the stilt]

16. It is the same exact actions

many bernie supporters do every day. Do you support this type of behavior?

[SHRED]

17. You talking to me?

[wilt the stilt]

22. I'm not necessarily talking to you

I am talking to many of the Bernie supporters who constantly say the won't vote for Hilary no matter what. i don't know if you said that but I know this is a typical action by many Bernie supporters on this website. I'm just asking what if people of color take the same tact. Do you think it is a mature way to act?

[Politicalboi]

83. Do you think suppressing the vote is mature or cheating?

And don't tell me it wasn't against the law, I don't care. If Bill Clinton turned even ONE voter away who couldn't stay the extras hours to vote because of him why is that fine with Hillary supporters? Why is he still allowed to do it? The vote may have been different had they not interfered. Are we supposed to overlook the cheating? I will NOT. I don't like liars either. Sniper Fire is a sign of being a pathological liar. Again, you support her, not me. She's the WRONG choice.

[Half-Century Man]

110. I am reluctant to commit to vote for her if forced to.

She, as any candidate, must earn my trust and then my vote. As of right now, she has failed to earn my trust or a vote.
I need firm absolute commitments to many of Bernie's positions.
Break up the banks.
Universal Healthcare.
Tuition free public colleges.
End of the War on Drugs.
Complete commitment to armed conflict as the absolute last option.
De-militarization of law enforcement.
As well as some favorites of mine.
Break up the media monopolies.
Utter removal of Business practices from Education.
Doubling of the budget for public schools; gradual elimination of Charter/Private/religious schools.
Public destruction of all weapon capable drones. Drones to forever after used exclusively for recon/intel.

[SHRED]

4. Now there's another loaded question

Not surprised.

[wilt the stilt]

6. It is exactly the way

Bernie supporters act on this website all the time.

[SHRED]

11. Please proceed

[wilt the stilt]

52. Simple question

do you approve of this type of tactic we see all the time by Bernie supporters. You either do or you don't pretty simple.

[noretreatnosurrender]

66. Hi

wilt the stilt. This is the first time I've run across one of your posts in a thread. I thought you only made comments through PM's like the two you sent me.

[wilt the stilt]

121. I just

wanted to show how ridiculous it is to have a purity test .

[noretreatnosurrender]

233. Your PM's to Me

were about Johnathan Capehart. Nothing about a purity test?

[floriduck]

182. I thought your post was about POC.

Are we now headed down a different rabbit hole? If not, Bernie has survived so far with the majority of POC supporting Hillary. However, much of that support comes from her "Firewall" states that historically vote Republican. So to answer your original OP, yes. Bernie may be able to win without their votes. But we'll see how it plays out as we move forward.

[beam me up scottie]

14. Looking at your transparency page, should you really be talking about how other people act here?

[Curmudgeoness]

49. Bingo.

Thanks for pointing me to that.

[wilt the stilt]

57. still avoiding the question

do you support this type of tactic we see from Bernie supporters all the time. It is a very fair question.

[Curmudgeoness]

71. Don't ask me.

I am a Bernie supporter, and I have never posted that I would not vote for Hillary. Most of us have not. And I am willing to bet that the reaction you speak of is only a consequence of all the loyalty oaths that Hillary supporters were demanding. I am not taking it seriously. I would suggest that you don't get so upset about it as well. This is still the primary and stirring shit is not helpful.

Remember, he who stirs shit has to lick the spoon.

[bvf]

162. Be sure to offer him a mint. n/t

[Curmudgeoness]

169. I don't care if he has a mint or not.

I'm not getting close enough to smell his breath.

It is rather interesting to me that he has hounded everyone in this thread when they comment to him, but he has nothing here. Obviously, it isn't any fun to play with me. Rather disgusting to see the game that is being played. I hope that everyone is enjoying it.

[bvf]

218. The one, lonely rec this thread has garnered

so far (and its owner) says a lot all by itself, doesn't it?

It's been clear for a long time that race-baiting is the only tool available to a lot of Clinton supporters around here.

It's really ugly, yes.

[beam me up scottie]

219. Yes it is interesting to see who rec'd Wilt's thread.

And what they have in common.

[bvf]

239. We're up to two.

And guess what? Both parolees.

[beam me up scottie]

241. I just saw that, another surprise! You can tell so much from recs.

:

[BeanMusical]

64. +1000

[opiate69]

153. But, once again....

those are all BAD HIDES!!!!111 Because, reasons... and stuff...

[beam me up scottie]

158. Yes because he has Jewish friends!

[JI7]

5. POC will vote for him if he wins the nomination

No question about it

[wilt the stilt]

12. I'm just highlighting

the exact way Bernie supporters act like on this website all the time.

[beam me up scottie]

15. *cough* transparency page !

[wilt the stilt]

19. please answer the question

instead of just avoiding it. I believe you might have said you won't vote for Hilary. Right or wrong?

[beam me up scottie]

21. Did you know that snapping turtles use an appendage in their mouth to lure prey?

[Ned_Devine]

75. Is that the appendage that looks like a worm?

[beam me up scottie]

76. Why yes it is! Here's a picture:

[Ned_Devine]

87. Wow! That is pretty alluring

[beam me up scottie]

97. They are dangerous but quite beautiful. Here's a baby alligator snapping turtle:

Rarr!



And his grandpappy:

[Ned_Devine]

101. Holy mackerel! That's prehistoric looking!

[Biaviians]

181. Good score!

[PonyUp]

252. We have these where I live. I once stopped to get one off the road.

I used a big stick to try to prod him along. He hissed and grabbed the stick out of my hand so I decided to leave him in the road. I watched for traffic and he eventually crossed the road and crawled over the side of a culvert to about a 15-foot drop into the water. He then went on his way. One tough turtle!

[beam me up scottie]

253. I came across a huge one eating a dead deer when I was kayaking.

Looked like a dinosaur and hissed like a demon, I gave him a wide berth. Their mouths are huge!

[PonyUp]

254. I just read they can live up to 200 years, 80-120 more likely, & in captivity they live 20-70 yrs!

I'm enjoying this turtle thread!

[beam me up scottie]

255. Grow to weigh over 200 lbs and they're ancient, they've been around over 40 million years!

Turtle bombing threads is awesome!

[bettyellen]

195. speaking of which- does that Hello Vampire Kitty have a beard or tentacles under it's chin?

It can't be whiskers.

[beam me up scottie]

196. That's Hello Cthulhu! And yes, those are her tentacles!

[bettyellen]

197. HA HA HA. Totally forgot Cthulhu has wings. Funny bit of cross-branding.

[beam me up scottie]

199. I borrowed her once from Modem Butterfly and kept her as a tribute.

She was an awesome poster!

[bettyellen]

200. She would make a great bath toy! I just can't with the avatars. Am not even sure what mine is.

Forget the sigs. Lame at all that.

[beam me up scottie]

205. I had to search for my kayak one, then play around with it to make it fit.

I wish I was as talented as some folks here, their creativity amazes me.

[PonyUp]

256. Ever see a vampire fish? With mouth closed their fangs go into slots in their head. Scary!

[beam me up scottie]

261. So cool!

[Art_from_Ark]

78. That 7-0 hide was particularly telling

[beam me up scottie]

80. Yes it was.

And thanks to amnesty he's back here stirring the shit.

[Juicy_Bellows]

9. Many of us are already Sanders supporters. NT.

EDIT - as for your second question, probably not but plenty of us will be voting for him should he make it.

[wilt the stilt]

18. pretty low percentage n/t

[Cheese Sandwich]

25. ^ Lie.

Probably like 30% or something.

[beam me up scottie]

10. I like turtles.

[Rainforestgoddess]

33. What if it's turtles

All the way down?

[beam me up scottie]

39. Even better! Turtles make me happy.

[wilt the stilt]

42. obviously

you cant answer the question in a meaningful way.

[Curmudgeoness]

62. This

is one of the baby turtles that I raised for a hatchling, on the day that she was released into the sanctuary. She is such a cutie. Cool, huh?

[beam me up scottie]

79. She's adorable!

I rescued many And mine all went back to the wild or to a rehabilitation center too!

[tonedevil]

89. A direct...

result of a question that is not in any way meaningful.

[kdmorris]

118. What about Australian Newly Hatched Turtles?

Do you have any love for them???

[beam me up scottie]

122. SQUEE!!!

Moar cute pleez:

[kdmorris]

124. Let's go!!!

We can do it, man! Do you have your exit buddy?

[beam me up scottie]

127. She shoots, she scores!

[kdmorris]

130. Slip me some shell!

[beam me up scottie]

132. He loves me, he loves me not, he loves me...

[kdmorris]

137. I'm on the top of the World, Looking down on creation

[beam me up scottie]

164. Ha! Beat this, a turtle AND a kitteh!:

[kdmorris]

165. Nighty Night!

From me to you!

[Fairgo]

229. See? Sea Turtles!

It's turtles all the way down under...

[bravenak]

13. We do not have that luxury

[bvf]

240. DU parole. You got that going for you.

[KingFlorez]

20. Nobody running as a Democrat can win without the non-white vote

[wilt the stilt]

26. I'v watching this tact

going on for months by the "progressive people" on this website. It is "Bernie or Bust". "I won't vote for Hilary" refrain all the time. What makes these progressives think that the AA vote is locked up and that they will vote for Bernie.

[AgadorSparticus]

203. I have too. Buyou have to keep in mind that they are a small minority.

People I talk to in the real world don't say this kind of stuff. They have more perspective and aren't so lost in the trees that they can't see the forest like it is here on DU. The Bernie supporters on DU give Bernie Sanders supporters a bad name.

[npk]

53. The reason Hillary has been pandering in every region of the country she has been to

About the only vote she hasn't tried to sway is the straight white vote. Bernie has been honest and has kept his message the same no matter what region of the country he has been in. Bernie wants a better America for "all" Americans.

[delrem]

23. wow. just wow.

[wilt the stilt]

29. saw hem many times

i just saw Hot tuna a couple of months ago.

[delrem]

34. Well, that's wonderful. You're obviously a winner, with this OP. /nt

[wilt the stilt]

38. I saw them 6 days

after Kent state. I probably saw some variation of the Airplane d the Airplane 15-18 times.

[delrem]

44. Oh, Kent state. That's street creds, man.

Now back to your generalized assertion putting "POC" vs "Bernie supporters".

That's a real evolution in street creds. proactive stuff. I'm impressed.

Hope you liked the music.

[wilt the stilt]

67. I saw everyone

from janis to the Who before Tommy. i saw the allman's closing weekend at the Fillmore east and I went to woodstock. i marched on washington in'69 at the first march against the Vietnam war and also the second and I went to obama's inauguration. I have never ran into another person who did those 4 things. it is what every liberal is proud to have gone to.

[delrem]

74. OK. Good experiences. That's all great stuff.

But your putting "POC" vs "Bernie supporters" in this OP sucks big time, and isn't even on that scale of values.

It's bad politics, my friend. How did you end up doing this kind of shitty thing?
What was the "evolution", so you would use a race based taunt against "Bernie supporters" like that?

[wilt the stilt]

105. I do it

because I find the bernie supporters being really childish and pulling all sorts of temper tantrums. It is total "my way or the highway" they constantly call us long time democrats not democrats because we might support Hilary and we are separatists. We don't pass their purity test.

it is very tiring and counter productive so i just wanted to show them how foolish it is. Of course the POc won't withhold their votes but i don't expect to see that kind of bullshit going on here

[delrem]

108. OK. You've demonstrated your depth. /nt

[wilt the stilt]

123. thx n/t

[Cheese Sandwich]

24. Millions of black and brown people are Bernie supporters

Shame on you for acting like those two groups are separate.

Deeply offensive. I'm not kidding.

Dear Hillary supporters, please stop doing that.

[beam me up scottie]

27. #Berniemademewhite

Was made for people like the op.

[wilt the stilt]

43. and your not a person of color

as opposed to me.

[Goblinmonger]

45. *you're

[beam me up scottie]

51. It's 'you're' and I know *I* never called someone "an old crusty Jew".

Sander's is an old crusty "jew'. If most of the Sanders supporters don't understand how he would play out there then I think you are missing America's underlying feelings about northeasterners and how they view "jews".

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1059701

So there's that.

[PufPuf23]

65. That is cringe worthy and why the OP writer should never be taken seriously.

Thanks.

[ljm2002]

154. That post was ban-worthy...

...if there ever was a post that was ban-worthy.

But nope, the creep who made such a post is allowed back on the site to continue to sow discord, which he is doing with great gusto.

Some animals are more equal than others.

Yuck.

[beam me up scottie]

157. Yes it was but thanks to amnesty he's here preaching to us about intolerance.

That's a real kick in the head, in'it?

[PufPuf23]

184. I am nearly daily blown away by what I read at DU.

I do not find much in common with the haters.

They seem proud and careless.

[beam me up scottie]

185. When rabidly anti-Semitic posters lecture others about racism you know DU's jumped the shark.

It just boggles the mind.

[wilt the stilt]

70. I'm chinese

you know the people they used to call chinks. My grandmother was arrested in 1910 for cavorting with chinese people in 1910. Do you want to see the article. i have it. every other word in the article call my grandfather a chink.quite an article. Also I'm 64 so i remember how bad it was. When i grew up we were called orientals.

Most on this website have never experienced discrimination.

[beam me up scottie]

72. That's nice, does it excuse your use of an anti-Semitic slur?

[wilt the stilt]

77. i said i am still in contact with all my jewish friends

in NYC. Go look up Greystone area in Yonkers. i went to Emerson JHS in 1963. i met these 13 guys at that school in 1963. i still talk to them at least twice a week. i am hardly anti semitic but you just keep believing it. how about this bet I will send you a picture of all of us from a reunion from 2 years ago in Chicago. i will put up $5,000 and you put up $5,000 and lets see who walks away with the money.

[beam me up scottie]

81. Uh huh.

[wilt the stilt]

88. I'l put it up

if you will. anytime you are ready.or is it just blather from you. Either you have the nerve to challenge me and my friends or you don't. back down and I'm right i need the $5,000

[beam me up scottie]

91. I hear the same thing from racists at work too, they all claim they have black friends.

Right after they get caught using racial slurs.

How convenient.

[wilt the stilt]

95. I have the $5,000 do you

and i will have every one of my friends write a testimonial. either put the money up or shut up.

[beam me up scottie]

102. You criticized Bernie supporters for their words and now you've been hoisted on your own petard.

Enjoy the view.

[wilt the stilt]

107. anytime

for the money PM me and i will give you all my friends and their email addresses. you write them if you don't believe me. then you will be shut up for all time. pretty easy to do and either i am right or you are.

[beam me up scottie]

111. You're not getting this. It's an absurd argument since bigots can have friends who are minorities.

The racists at work really do think they have black friends and if pressed could probably produce one or two but that doesn't mean they're not racists.

The AA folks at work judge them by their words and so do I.

Once you use a slur you have no more credibility.

[wilt the stilt]

139. anytime for the money

I need the $5,000.

[Major Nikon]

133. Results...

On Mon Mar 28, 2016, 08:02 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

i said i am still in contact with all my jewish friends
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1597199

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This poster got called out on an Anti-semitic remark about Sanders, and now he's doubling down on it by claiming that he "has Jewish friends"

If someone here called Obama a N****r and said it was OK because they had black friends they would be banned from the site! This needs to be strongly hidden to send a message that Anti-Semitism is not OK here.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Mar 28, 2016, 08:21 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The post that you want hidden has no antisemitic remarks!
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I wish I had a nickle for every time I heard a wingnut bigot say, "I'm not racist, I have black friends". So while this line may be old and worn out to the point of cliche by bigots, this particular post in and of itself does not constitute bigotry.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Sounds more like he his back-tracking, or at least trying to look that way. I think the OP is shit-stir, but the post that was alerted on and the sub-thread aren't hide-worthy.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: There's little to say. Possibly alerting the wrong post?
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This is the most ridiculous jury alert I have ever seen in hundreds I have served on. All I can say to alerter is WTF
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Hi BMUS!
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: over-the-top

[beam me up scottie]

141. Lol! Not my alert juror #6, I'm enjoying the show too much.

Watching Wilt try to weasel out of his words is quite amusing.

Plus we're turtle bombing the thread and who doesn't like turtles?

[Mbrow]

214. some of my best friends are turtles...

What a silly op, of course most of us Bernie people will vote for Hillary rather then those dumb fuck re thugs. Just don't think we will stop calling out people on their nonsense or her's as well. If Bernie makes it to the Show and doesn't come thru (he will) we will give him a hard time as well, Just as progressives have try to do to BHO. The people who will vote for Bernie and not Hillary are the progressive independents and a lot of the younger people who don't see any difference between HRC and the re thug, Most of us do, especially here at DU so stop it already.

[beam me up scottie]

215. Many people in red and blue states know their votes don't count.

It's a symbolic thing, no Bernie supporters want Trump to win, that's another bullshit meme perpetrated by people who want to bully us into falling in line.

[Mbrow]

216. Agreed,

you have more patience then me dealing with some of these people. bed time for me

[beam me up scottie]

217. Good night, friend!

[ljm2002]

156. "Some of my best friends"...

...yeah dude, whatever.

[ljm2002]

155. So fucking what?

As if that excuses you from spewing nastiness and anti-Semitism.

Ugh.

[riderinthestorm]

73. Jesus, another fucking anti-Semite. Bookmarking, especially when folks try to say its not on DU

Should be banned like the other raging anti-Semite here.

SMH

[wilt the stilt]

82. same bet to you

I will send you picture with my friends from 1963. All 13 jewish guys. i'll put up $5,000 and you put up $5,000. i am in touch with these guys at least twice a week. We had a reunion in chicago 2 years ago. do you have enough nerve to take this bet?

[riderinthestorm]

84. Oh my god, now you're using the "But I have Jewish friends!!11!!!" gambit.

I have zero respect for anyone who'd label Bernie Sanders a "crusty old jew".

[wilt the stilt]

92. I'm ready when you are

put up the money or shut up. I grew up in Yonkers and went to emerson JHS in 1963. i met these 13 guys then. Yonkers had a very significant jewish population. when you are ready to put up the money the let's do it. i need the &5,000. ready?

[riderinthestorm]

100. I don't bet. Ever.

You've clearly never been poor where every single last fucking cent counted so take your faux outrage elsewhere.

You're just pissed you've been outed.

[wilt the stilt]

112. ever been poor?

I grew up in the back of a laundry and I shared a twin bed with my brother until I was 9 and he was 10. i grew up in 400 sq. ft with my brothers and my mom and dad. that would be 5 people in 400 sq. ft. the only thing that separated my parents bed an my bed was a chest of drawers. My younger brother was in a crib until he was 5.

you think you were poor?

[riderinthestorm]

114. Yes, homeless poor. I've posted about that here on DU before nt

[wilt the stilt]

117. Sorry about that

It would be way hard to be homeless. Hope all is ok now.

[riderinthestorm]

125. It is. I just find no joy in gambling.

I have worked too hard for the money.

True story, my husband and I went to Lake Tahoe years ago for his sister's wedding. Everyone went to a casino one night. I'd never been to one before so I really thought it would be fun. I had my $50 and was ready to party. I got to the first slot machine and froze. I literally couldn't put the damn quarter in lol.

I ended up using most of my cash on booze which you know is a feat at a casino where its almost free. I did play a couple hands of blackjack but told my husband I'd probably would have had more fun just opening the car window and throwing it out to those folks walking on the Strip.

And there's my first and last time gambling.

[wilt the stilt]

142. here is the story with slots

you put in 3 coins and you get back 2 LOL. blackjack is your best odds. they win 52 and you win 48. If you win 3 hands in a row at a blackjack table pick your mony up and leave you won't win the 4th also don't sit at at one table too long you will lose.

[ljm2002]

159. Yep, and it'll only cost you $5000...

...for him to prove it.

Like anyone would want to pay this dude to find out anything whatsoever about him.

Pathetic.

[Fairgo]

230. that's two Ops who slide into race baiting antisemitism

Must be a coincidence.

[ljm2002]

152. BAM!!!!!

beam me up scottie - 100
wilt the stilt - 0

Thanks for the reminder, bmus.

[opiate69]

160. Apparently they didn't used to care about grammar in college back when he went...

I went to college. First in my family to graduate.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1252071

[beam me up scottie]

161. What was it Trump said? Oh yeah: "I LOVE the poorly educated!"

[opiate69]

166. Of course, everything's true on the internet, no?

Didn't I ever tell you that after my band sold 40 million records, I grew bored with the tedium of touring and recording, so I went back to School and almost got my PhD in Cosmology, but since Brian May beat me by a semester, I decided to switch my area of study to maritime law? Passed the bar after only taking one pre-law class too!

[wilt the stilt]

167. same goes to u

$50000 bet if u have the balls

[opiate69]

171. Lol

Sorry.. all the money I made from selling out arenas worldwide burned up in a haze of cocaine, Italian sports cars, and women of questionable intentions.

[wilt the stilt]

175. put up the bet

or your are just wrong

[bvf]

242. Excuse me here.

Everyone's laughing at you.

Probably even Bravenak, at this point.

[beam me up scottie]

168. Lol! Kevin Hart: I Can't Tell Big Lies:

[wilt the stilt]

170. anytime

$5000 bet if u have the balls u keep mot committing if u think I am antisem itic then put up the money if not shut up

[beam me up scottie]

176. I can't, I sold everything I had and gave it all to Bernie, now I'm turning tricks to feed my kids.

DAMN YOU BERNIE SANDERS! HOW MANY MORE LIVES WILL YOU RUIN???

[Cassiopeia]

186. And your results are in!

On Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:42 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

I can't, I sold everything I had and gave it all to Bernie, now I'm turning tricks to feed my kids.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1598480

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Over-the-top snark.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:59 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Ok - thanks for the laugh. Really.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Snark is now a TOS violation. Alerter should have alerting privileges revoked for this one.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Not over the top at all. Alerter needs to raise their snark threshold.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: humor and sarcasm are just fine
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given



The most frivolous alert I've seen yet.

[beam me up scottie]

187. "Over-the-top snark"? Is that even possible?

Good jury!

[cyberswede]

189. Juror #1 here.

[beam me up scottie]

191. You da person!

[marble falls]

190. Good jury. I hope it goes up hill.

[beam me up scottie]

192. Yes it was!

Honestly instead of losing my temper I'm trying to laugh at the absurdity of it all.

[opiate69]

188. Snork!!

[polly7]

227. LOL!

Oops!



Calling backup!


Sheesh ........ do these people have no sense of humour?

[opiate69]

202. He must have had a soft spot for your sob story... his bet with me was $50,000!!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1598415

[beam me up scottie]

207. Holy shit! 50 grand?

All that money and he still takes the time to lecture us poor folks?

What a humanitarian!

[opiate69]

209. A Prince among men!

[beam me up scottie]

213. And he got one whole rec!

[Fairgo]

232. he hit the trifecta with his last post

antisemitic, race baiting, and misogyny. Well into republican territory at this point.

[beam me up scottie]

237. Yeah that was a real doozy.

[opiate69]

235. And when I looked and saw who it was........

[beam me up scottie]

238. Shocker, right?

I wonder what they have in common?

[polly7]

221. ......

Did you know coffee burns just as hot coming back up the nose as it does taking a sip?

[beam me up scottie]

223. Ouch! Sorry about that!

Whatever you do don't read the alert on my post!

[polly7]

224. LOL! It's ok .... I didn't need those nose hairs anyway!

Have to go read that alert right now.

[polly7]

225. LOL Wtf???

I read the hidden reply to your post. Did you just get offered $100?? Oops, that was to another post. Oh well, made me laugh anyway.

Crazy good thread ......... I gotta go read more.

[SMC22307]

194. "Sander's is an old crusty "jew'."?!?! How in the hell...

does a poster not be given the ol' heave-ho after that? This, from the TOS:

No bigoted hate speech.

Do not post bigotry based on someone's race or ethnic origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, religion or lack thereof, disability, or other comparable personal characteristic. To be clear: This includes any post which states opposition to full equal rights for gays and lesbians; it also includes any post asserting disloyalty by Jewish Americans, claiming nefarious influence by Jews/Zionists/Israel, advocating the destruction of the state of Israel, or arguing that Holocaust deniers are just misunderstood. In determining what constitutes bigotry, please be aware that we cannot know what is in anyone's heart, and we will give members the benefit of the doubt, when — and only when — such doubt exists.

Wilt and the "brave" one... what a pair.

[beam me up scottie]

198. Good question, if you do a search on that person's posts you'll be even more shocked.

I don't look for his threads but damn if someone like that lecturing me about racism doesn't make me go

[SMC22307]

210. How many hides before someone is Flagged for Review?

Ol' Wilt has 8 hides and a status of Active. They shoulda kept the damn time-outs. I'm not sure I can stand all this civility and unity.

[beam me up scottie]

211. 2 hides in 24 hours will get your account flagged.

And yeah this amnesty thingy is really working out well.

It's all Lord of the Flies in here.

[SMC22307]

212. Ah, thanks.

We'll see how "progressive" this board truly is.

[nadinbrzezinski]

206. I'm looking for the term that applies here

A... AAAA

ANTISEMITIC... ahh much better.

I intend to call it for what it is now, Thanks for shining some light there BMUS

[beam me up scottie]

208. No problem, sunlight and all that.

He wanted to bait people with this op and it backfired.

[Change has come]

263. Holy Shit!

Thanks for link. I can't believe that post doesn't warrant a tombstone.

Skinner must be so proud!

[Juicy_Bellows]

30. I regret posting in this thread - but happy to read your comment!

[wilt the stilt]

36. Here is my issue

We see people all the time on this website using this exact tactic. I'm i only voting for Bernie. i will never vote for Hilary. It is foolish nonsense and destructive to the democratic party.

[dogman]

56. So how many total Bernie or bust members are on DU?

It will go away in time.

[wilt the stilt]

120. hopefully

This mode of communicating has been going on for some time. There is no need to act like we are in a death battle.

[delrem]

31. It'll stop when BrockPAC tells them to stop.

Then it won't have happened.

[wilt the stilt]

32. uh

we see this tactic all the time on this website true or not true?

[MFM008]

204. In Saturdays Caucus in WA

all the Bernie people were white
all the POC were in the HRC groups
Im just telling you what I saw.

[riderinthestorm]

28. What policy positions does Bernie hold that they'd stand on principle against?

For many BOB folks its Hillary’s support for fracking for example.- a morally unsupportable position if you careabout the planet.

For others its her hawkishness. Her no fly zone in Syria ensures war with Russia - morally unsupportable if you aren't in support of starting WWIII.

Others find her support for the war criminal Netanyahu - yup, again, morally unsupportable.

So which of Bernie’s positions are so heinous they'd not support him even if they love Hillary?

[hrmjustin]

35. Please God no. We need every vote we can get for our nominee.

I understand the desire to give it back to the Sanders supporters on this board and Lord knows some of them deserve it, but in the end our nominee will need every vote. Even God help us if it is Sanders.

[delrem]

37. Oh c'mon. The OP is just feeding the same machine you've been feeding.

The OP just hasn't got the new directive, yet.

I think the new directive is that Bernie is a wife-abuser. AmIright or not?

[wilt the stilt]

40. no drective

just throwing it back at the many bernie supporters who do this exact tactic all the time.

[delrem]

47. No. It's YOU who did this exact tactic.

Setting "Bernie supporters" vs "POC",

as if you knew shit from shinola.

[riderinthestorm]

50. You do realize that when they say it they usually have a reason

They're not just saying it because.

As Justin is trying to warn.you, you're OP is almost custom designed to drive the BOB voters even farther away.

But if that's your goal then hey, carry on.

[bvf]

243. "drective"

Is there such a thing as a Freudian Typo?

If not, congratulations! You've just invented it!

[hrmjustin]

41. I assure you i don't care about your opinion of me or my fellow Hillary supporters.

[delrem]

55. I can't even imagine supposing that you did!

But you care about "votes" -
so tell the OP to parse his Hillary-speak.

[hrmjustin]

59. I don't take orders from you so stop barking them.

I made my point to the op and to you.

Continue if you need to but i am done addressing you.

[delrem]

63. I didn't "bark orders" at you.

You poor thing.

[ibegurpard]

129. yup

[wendylaroux]

46. "Even God help us if it is Sanders". ??

what would happen to you if Sanders was elected?

[hrmjustin]

54. I don't care for the man and don't want to see him elected.

But if he wins I will vote for him because I am loyal to the party.

That is all I have to say.

[Goblinmonger]

85. But "God help us"

At least that part was clear.

[hrmjustin]

90. I have no desire to argue with you over God or my political views.

Good evening.

[Goblinmonger]

115. Might not want to post in GDP if you don't want people to discuss what you say

[Warren Stupidity]

259. Some people keep forgetting that they aren't

posting in a protected echo chamber.

[bvf]

244. Thought you were done earlier.

[delrem]

93. There is only one God, and that God is mine!

So take this bullet to the head, you infidel!

I'll leave the cleanup for the hired help.

[wendylaroux]

99. I like him! I liked H alot more

before coming to du.

oh well,it will all come out in the wash.

[skepticscott]

126. Do you really, REALLY

think that someone is listening? Or that, if it is, it cares about the teensy little political race in one political party, in one little country, on one little planet in an insignificant galaxy of a hundred billions stars in a universe of a hundred billion galaxies?

Do you pray for your team's field goal kicker, too?

[hrmjustin]

134. Isn't it amazing when one of you engage me the whole crew comes out?

Am i not posting enough in the religion room enough for you so you can mock my faith?

Did you find out about this post through your little FB group because your friend ran there to tell on me?

Really Scott you are like a kid in a candy store when i mention God anywhere on this site.

[skepticscott]

140. For someone who posts publicly, all over the place

you seemed shocked that anyone notices your posts.

But you never answered my question.

[hrmjustin]

145. I say this only because it is a pattern with you.

As you know 99 out of 100 times when we engage each other it is you who engages me first. I don't seek you out.

And when one of your clique engages me outside the religion room you seem to follow along. I guess you just can't help it. Always the follower never the leader.


And if I wanted to discuss my faith with you I would do it in the religion room.

[skepticscott]

147. Your posts are simply a more inviting target

than mine.

Not that complicated, really

[hrmjustin]

148. Well your concern over my faith and the fact I pray is noted.

Is that all?

[skepticscott]

150. The concern is not over the fact that you pray

but over whether you think that anything is actually listening.

[hrmjustin]

151. Well your concern is noted.

[bvf]

245. Don't worry, Justin.

I'll pray for you.

[hrmjustin]

247. Thank you and I will pray for you as well.

[bvf]

248. Pshaw, I was just kidding. You knew that.

Here's where you say something adorable and naïve.

Go.

[hrmjustin]

257. .

[artislife]

48. I am a PoC and am tired of this line of OPs.

In the words of Hillary..."Cut it out."

[highprincipleswork]

58. Which principles does Bernie support that PoC actually have a problem with?

[riderinthestorm]

69. I've tried asking that 2x upthread.

I must be on their ignore list.

Good luck!

[HERVEPA]

60. Wilt hated the name "Wilt the Stilt". Try "The Dipper", which he loved.

[wilt the stilt]

94. I actually would change it if I could

I actually like havlicek and i copied my game after him. a slasher.

[HERVEPA]

98. I hated Havlicek. Filthy player. Not as much as I hated Auerbach though.

[wilt the stilt]

113. I wasn't good enough shooter to be Bill Bradley

even though I moved without the ball. I needed my quickness to get one step up on you and go to the basket hence havlicek.

[HERVEPA]

136. Celtics - Phila. Warriors was always a great rivalry

[wilt the stilt]

138. I saw the "havlicek steal"

live on TV with Chris Schenkel and i once saw Chamberlain and Russell hit the rim with their shoulders and break the rim.

The one player who is under appreciated was Dave Debuscherre ( today's sportswriters and kids). It is all offense now. They ranked Kevin Durant as the 6 the greatest forward ever.

Rick Barry was in the top 10 also. Every time Rick Barry played Debuscherre he was held to 10 points below his average and Debuscheere always got his 16 points per game.
Debuscherre was great.

Talking about the the 76'ers my best move I stole from Chet walker.

[HERVEPA]

144. That would be "Chet the Jet" Walker

[wilt the stilt]

149. I took his baseline move

used it all the time. It almost always worked. Also hal Greer taking jump shots for free throws.

[HERVEPA]

173. Right! I loved that! I can hear Zinkoff saying "Greer!" when he made a shot.

[Rebkeh]

61. Yeah, this is bullshit

The last thing we need is to single out any group for blame when a candidate loses.

[ThePhilosopher04]

68. POC aren't monolithic

Some will vote for Bernie, some won't. It's their right to vote or not vote for whomever they want. That's the beauty of our so called democracy.

[Snotcicles]

86. I'd bet that if Bernie were to win without even a single POC's vote, he would

keep on fighting for them as he always has. And would not ever mention it.

[ThePhilosopher04]

96. Exactly. Bernie will be the true champion for ALL

People, including those who do not support him, whether out of ignorance, spite or other reasons.

[Snotcicles]

104. That's just the stuff he's made of. nt

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

103. Like everyone else, they should vote for the candidate they prefer.

[ScreamingMeemie]

106. What if people/candidates/campaigns stopped treating POC/women/LGBT

as if they were collateral? That's what I'm more interested in. The behavior here continues to sicken me. Not so very many truly give a shit.

[Behind the Aegis]

201. It is as it has always been.

I too am disgusted by this. I am equally disgusted by the anti-Semitism and those using it, excusing it, ignoring it, and "suddenly" interested in it. It has been very nasty here as of late.

[Joe the Revelator]

109. Sure,why not? It's your fucking vote...

....use it however you wanna.

[tonedevil]

116. How do you even think...

this sort of question legitimate? There is an election for the candidate of the Democratic party for the presidency of the United States. That contest is between Secretary Clinton and Senator Sanders. Some supporters of each candidate have indicated they so can't stand the other candidate they will not vote for them in the general election. More of those are Senator Sanders supporters I think because he is the underdog.
The contest is not between Senator Sanders and People of Color in fact the Senator had strong support from indigenous people in Alaska and Hawaii. They are PoC don't they count? The only way to pose that question legitimately is to ask if Secretary Clinton supporters refuse to vote for Senator Sanders. To answer that I say to you PUMA.

[nadinbrzezinski]

119. Which PoC? The ones who support Bernie

but people like you keep pretending don't exist?

You realize this is very racist already?

[ibegurpard]

128. Are you implying the people of color are a hive-mind?

that they think collectively and are unable to reach their own individual conclusions?

[jfern]

131. Let's ask the least white state in the country what they think

Oh right, Hillary only got 30% there.

[arcane1]

135. Many POC actually ARE Bernie supporters n/t

[Bluenorthwest]

143. I just looked at your transparency page

Two hides for calling people assholes. Some material about Jews and really, just ugly stuff.

[delrem]

177. Yah, it's a pattern. Fuckheads is what it is. They're of all kinds.

It doesn't matter much to me what "candidate" or "party" they talk about, they're just fuckheads.

[Trajan]

146. What a waste

Gone

[valerief]

163. Welcome to my Forever Ignored Club. nt

[wilt the stilt]

172. I think this

will drive me to drink

[bvf]

249. I think that *that* particular ship has probably sailed.

[Gothmog]

174. Bernie or bust people are not real democrats

[99Forever]

178. Got a list of those "principles" these imaginary "POC" are standing on?

I can list an easy half dozen of my principles that the Clintons violate.

Please proceed.

[Vote2016]

179. People should vote for who they prefer. Hillary is severely limited in that regard but that's based

on her conservative ideology and dishonest self promotion and not based on race.

If you think "PoC" are some homogenous mob who thinks and votes alike, you are a racist.

Why don't you treat people as individuals, and if those individuals are centrists afraid of change or in love with the status quo, let them vote for Hillary, but if they are progressive and brave enough to work for a better way, let them vote for Sanders.

Please stop reducing voters to their skin pigment.

[Vincardog]

183. Do you talk just to hear your own voice? How did you learn to speak word salad like that?

[Lazy Daisy]

193. I've already seen

POC say a candidate has to earn their vote. That just being the nominee doesn't insure they vote for that candidate. If there is no candidate that has earned their vote, they will stay home. And honestly, I think I support that. I think a politician should have to connect with people, who ever they are.

I think we've come to a point that it's not enough to throw the Republican boogy man at us. That our party has to give us candidates we want.

So, yeah, if they don't want to vote for Bernie because of their principles, than that is their right. God knows they've EARNED it.

[Betty Karlson]

220. RACIST intimation: some POC are already Bernie supporters!

Claiming that the two are mutually exclusive categories is beyond absurd, as well as fanning a fire that should be extinguished.

Any DU-er should feel very small, and very ashamed, to post such false intimations.

[slipslidingaway]

222. I should let this sink, but I will say that we are not as attuned to color of one's skin ...

you would be best served to find another playground,

[CBGLuthier]

226. You should wash your hands after all that shit slinging.

[pdsimdars]

231. More non-issue nonsense from Her Royal Highness' supporters. What's new.

Talk to us about the TPP, or SOMETHING . . well, I guess that's too difficult because you never know what her position is from day to day.

[baldguy]

234. I love it when Bernie supporters refuse to answer simple, meaningful questions.

[artislife]

246. Please point to it.

Because this OP certainly didn't ask a meaningful question.

And as a PoC, but not the kind that matters, I found it asinine.

[baldguy]

260. How's this for size: Who are the like-minded candidates who will support the Sanders revolution?

We not only need to keep the Presidency - we need to take back the House and the Senate, along with most of the Governorships and State Houses.

Sanders supporters should be able to name literally hundreds of candidates, at every level of government. Nobody seems to be able to come up with more than a couple.

It's a funny revolution that has only one revolutionary with power.

[LWolf]

236. What if monkeys

start flying out of the asses of all those posting ludicrous, non-factual attacks on Sanders?

It could happen.

[PonyUp]

250. Can Hillary win the GE without the Independent vote? n/t

[quantumjunkie]

251. Hey dont speak for PoC -- i will be voting for Bernie in the GE!

just sayin'.

[beedle]

264. No, he needs PoC

Which is why he is not dismissing them.

Sanders isn't the one spreading the meme that portrays PoC as "my voters".

It may be a fact that certain demographics in certain areas of the country vote largely for specific candidates, but it's the Hillary side that is the side saying that this means Sanders "has a problem with minorities" ... especially without actually articulating what this 'problem' actually is.

His 'problem; is name recognition .. it's not 'racism' or policies that hurt PoC ... but the Clinton camp implies that bullshit with their constant ploy to keep PoC from voting for Sanders, not by pointing out real racism, or real harmful policies, but by just repeating "Bernie has a problem with minorities" ... although at times they do actually imply racism.