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Bernie supporters in closed primary states r having their party affiliation changed without consent (Original Post) kgnu_fan Mar 2016 OP
Counting down until someone's supporters sneer at this as conspiracy theories. djean111 Mar 2016 #1
Once a cheater, always a cheater! Cobalt Violet Mar 2016 #2
Is this why the DNC/Clinton Campaign.... GeorgiaPeanuts Mar 2016 #3
pretty sure that's why. unfreakingbelievable. n/t Merryland Mar 2016 #6
If this can be proven Chasstev365 Mar 2016 #4
He can not Gwhittey Mar 2016 #7
How the hell does someone know that a voter is a Bernie supporter to change their party affiliation upaloopa Mar 2016 #5
There it is. -none Mar 2016 #8
This was changed last August according to the tweet Dem2 Mar 2016 #13
This is growing by leaps and bounds. upaloopa Mar 2016 #19
Bernie's DNC database, donor records...there are plenty of ways to identify enough of them Matt_in_STL Mar 2016 #9
I don't buy any of this conspiracy bull shit upaloopa Mar 2016 #20
I don't think anyone is asking you to. Just pointing out it is possible. Matt_in_STL Mar 2016 #24
That story was posted here already Dem2 Mar 2016 #10
The establishment will use every trick available to them. NorthCarolina Mar 2016 #11
How despicable, If this is true, and it's looking that way. All in it together Mar 2016 #12
It has become quite evident what the firewall breach in the DNC voter database NorthCarolina Mar 2016 #14
This happened BEFORE the breach. nt Dr Hobbitstein Mar 2016 #16
There was more than one breach. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2016 #17
This happened in August. Dr Hobbitstein Mar 2016 #18
Again, there was more than one NGP/VAN breach. jeff47 Mar 2016 #21
Link to the other breach. nt Dr Hobbitstein Mar 2016 #22
It's in the lawsuit against the DNC. jeff47 Mar 2016 #23
Undetermined being the operative word. nt Dr Hobbitstein Mar 2016 #35
There was a DNC data breach in August. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #29
Not NGP/Van. Dr Hobbitstein Mar 2016 #34
Just Bernie Supporters? Do you have any evidence of that? MineralMan Mar 2016 #15
I believe there's a term for that type of evidence ... salinsky Mar 2016 #30
K&R and check status here: http://www.canivote.org/ amborin Mar 2016 #25
Sure RandySF Mar 2016 #26
Did you know there was a breach of 191 million Voter Registrations Leaked? Here- jillan Mar 2016 #27
kick kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #28
So how does that identify someone as a Bernie supporter? n/t bbrady42 Mar 2016 #31
Under 45? ViseGrip Mar 2016 #32
Did you know know that Hillary voters were also impacted? Oh yeah. They have been screaming jillan Mar 2016 #33
Why would the establishment NOT use any tactic in their arsenal? NorthCarolina Mar 2016 #36
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
1. Counting down until someone's supporters sneer at this as conspiracy theories.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:03 AM
Mar 2016

Like they know they don't have to be concerned about it, almost!

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
3. Is this why the DNC/Clinton Campaign....
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:06 AM
Mar 2016

Have refused to comply with a full investigation into the voter database breaches between campaigns?

 

Gwhittey

(1,377 posts)
7. He can not
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:12 AM
Mar 2016

Because then M$M will just report on how he has sour grapes.
They have not reported on one single thing comping out of Arizona. Like many do not know that Az Sanders HQ had someone hack the supporter list for AZ. Then the AZ voter website having some serious exploits open to SQL injection attacks. So now you have a list of people that donated to Sanders and their IDs. You have a means to exploit the AZ states voter database so then you now can change people from (D) to (I).

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
5. How the hell does someone know that a voter is a Bernie supporter to change their party affiliation
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:06 AM
Mar 2016

This stuff is getting pretty ludicrous.

-none

(1,884 posts)
8. There it is.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:18 AM
Mar 2016

All they had to do is look at the Bernie lists during the breach in the DNC servers. That breach worked both ways. If the Bernie employee has not noticed it, then no one would have known about it and we would not have a clue on how they could have known who the Bernie supporter are.

 

Matt_in_STL

(1,446 posts)
24. I don't think anyone is asking you to. Just pointing out it is possible.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:59 AM
Mar 2016

I am sure you don't believe any of the Republican vote changing or election fraud conspiracies then either.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
10. That story was posted here already
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:28 AM
Mar 2016

I was hoping for a somewhat thorough analysis of the situation, not the same anecdotal story that's been debated here previously.

Also, the theory above about the data breech and/or Hillary somehow involved don't make sense since the voters registration was changed last August. Nobody could possibly have known back then that this would become a competitive race.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
11. The establishment will use every trick available to them.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:28 AM
Mar 2016

Altering voter registration info is just one of those tricks at their disposal.

Bernie wants to turn their "public service job" into an actual Public Service Job the like of which he has been serving for 30+ years.

Bernie has been in the public service domain for at least as long as the Clintons. One family got EXTREMELY rich from their public service duties, whereas one didn't. Ever wonder why?

All in it together

(275 posts)
12. How despicable, If this is true, and it's looking that way.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:29 AM
Mar 2016

This needs to be investigated, another thing to investigate. Why not just vote Bernie instead!
Trouble is if you steal an election you get to keep it. Just ask the Repubs

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
18. This happened in August.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:05 AM
Mar 2016

The timelines don't match up. And the "other breach" was an issue with unrelated software and was reported to the DNC (ie, NOT the NGP/VAN database). It was NOT the NGP/VAN breach that so many have donned tinfoil over.

If you want to don tinfoil to think it's some widespread mass conspiracy, that's cool. Just expect to be called out.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
21. Again, there was more than one NGP/VAN breach.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:12 AM
Mar 2016

The reason given for "See what we can do with this breach" was because it had already happened before. It's also extremely unlikely that there were only two breaches.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
23. It's in the lawsuit against the DNC.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:29 AM
Mar 2016

Mentions previous breaches, going back to the 2008 Obama campaign.

Snopes has a decent overview in their "undetermined" section
http://www.snopes.com/bernie-sanders-campaign-data-breach-controversy/

salinsky

(1,065 posts)
30. I believe there's a term for that type of evidence ...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:12 AM
Mar 2016

... and, that term is "anecdotal" ...

... but, they've got a tweet, ...

... so, there's that.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
27. Did you know there was a breach of 191 million Voter Registrations Leaked? Here-
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:07 AM
Mar 2016
http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2015/12/28/us-voter-database-leak/#7a867cff1bb9

A whitehat hacker has uncovered a database sitting on the Web containing various pieces of personal information related to 191 million American citizens registered to vote. On top of the concomitant problems of disclosing such a significant leak to that many people, no one knows who is actually responsible for the misconfiguration that left the data open to anyone.

Researcher Chris Vickery, who this month found myriad databases left open to all and sundry, told FORBES he has his hands on all 300GB of voter data, which includes names, home addresses, phone numbers, dates of birth, party affiliations, and logs of whether or not they had voted in primary or general elections. The data appears to date back to 2000. It does not contain financial data or social security numbers.


We have a problem.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
33. Did you know know that Hillary voters were also impacted? Oh yeah. They have been screaming
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:00 PM
Mar 2016

just as loudly as the rest.

One of the most passionate 2 minute speeches at the meeting with the AZ elections committee came from a republican.

This was not just about Bernie supporters.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
36. Why would the establishment NOT use any tactic in their arsenal?
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:28 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie represents a complete rejection of their chosen income stream. Desiring to turn elected positions with massive access to personal gain into nothing more than public service jobs earning whatever congressional salaries pay. If he prevails NOBODY will spend millions to acquire a public service job that pays only six figures annually.

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