2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Clinton cannot win US election
The rise of anti-establishment movements around the world will hit global investment, Wall Street profits and Hillary Clinton's chances of winning the presidency, according to a self-described libertarian economist.
Steen Jakobsen, chief economist at Danish investment bank Saxo Bank, believes the "social contract" the agreement between the ruled and the rulers is now broken, and this can be seen in the rise of Donald Trump.
Jakobsen says we may have reached a nadir in terms of political ambitions, investments, capital expenditure, employment, inflation and growth. He sees this as the end of "planned economies" that were adopted after the fall of the Berlin Wall.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/03/29/hillary-clinton-cannot-win-us-election-economist.html
GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)She doesn't even have the nomination locked up. She is cruising along in the slow lane and Bernie is fast approaching in the passing lane. Objects in the mirror are closer than they appear.
emulatorloo
(44,261 posts)Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)Hmmmm, in fact Hillary has a million more votes than Trump does...
ladjf
(17,320 posts)above mentioned economist is wrong, only that we have millions of uniformed Americans.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)KPN
(15,673 posts)Hmmmm ... 1.7%! Okay.
Gwhittey
(1,377 posts)Their is not popular vote tracking in many states. What you see called votes are vote from a precinct in many states. So when people say she has gotten X number of votes that is only from states that are primaries.
dana_b
(11,546 posts)like in Arizona? They weren't given a chance to vote
Overall vote
Republicans 20,375,925
Democrats 15,070,178
pinebox
(5,761 posts)That is a fact. When you break down percentages, Trump has more than Hillary.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/clinton-trump-ohio_us_56e9a0b8e4b065e2e3d8314c
artyteacher
(598 posts)She's kicking Bernie and Trump ass.
ladjf
(17,320 posts)1. Looking at the entire election current situation, Hillary is not "kicking Bernie's ass" although she does have more popular votes and delegates. It's still a close race, too close to be an "ass kicking". Even if she goes on the win the nomination, it will likely be a squeaker.
2. She's isn't having ANY impact on Trump's standing. He, like the master "con man" that he is,
has been able to create a base of like minded people, with the help of the media that gave him billions of dollars worth of publicity. (They now appear to be trying to put on the brakes.) Her few feeble remarks directed toward Trump were harmless "spit balls" . Hillary has fought lots of battles and is tough, but as a character assassin specialist, she's an amateur compared to Trump. Further, she is "living in a glass house". Trump will use those issues to try to "do her in" politically.
BreakfastClub
(765 posts)pampango
(24,692 posts)My guess is that libertarians live for the coming of the day of "chaos in the world of order" and that Trump is the candidate most likely to bring some good ol' chaos.
stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)Most Americans get this I believe.
When that's the "order" it's understandable that many will want to crumble that particular "order".
pampango
(24,692 posts)stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)Bernie gives us a chance to avoid the chaos that will be inevitable if we don't choose him.
The Democratic Party is not going to be the same in the very near future regardless of who wins this Primary. We will reform it and grow it with Bernie or it will surely being to splinter and fragment. How fast the Party would fragment I haven't a clue (although it has already lost a hell of a lot of support over the past few decades), but it might happen much faster than many would believe.
Those elected to serve us have betrayed us for too long, and they are now too openly brazen about it. There will obviously be consequences eventually for that.
It would not surprise me to find out that TPTB behind elected politicians want the Democratic Party to split. Canada's conservatives had a majority government with 38% of the vote. If TPTB could get the Dem Party to split they wouldn't even have to steal as many votes in the future.
amborin
(16,631 posts)was mainly about trump but also mentioned dems
Orsino
(37,428 posts)Millions of votes contradict it.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Gothmog
(145,789 posts)If this idiot really believes this stupidity, then he needs to open an Irish brokerage account right now and lock in the current great pricing for Sanders not becoming the nominee http://predictwise.com/politics/2016-president-democratic-nomination
inchhigh
(384 posts)overall the stock market is in a downtrend and this little bounce over the past couple of months has been on exceptionally light volume. Retail investors are still buying but companies have stopped buying back their own stock and institutional investors are slightly net short US stocks. the stock market seems completely dependant on the Federal Reserve and mostly responding to hope that they will back off on their plan to raise rates or the fear that they will actually do it. It is less dependant on actual revenue expectations that i have ever seen it.
Gothmog
(145,789 posts)You can buy contracts or options on the results of the Democratic Primary process or the results of the 2016 general elections. There is a free market system for such contracts and these investors are the people who disagree with this assessments. You can check out the pricing of these option contracts on this website, http://predictwise.com/politics/2016-president-democratic-nomination Right now, the free market system is giving Sanders a 9% chance of being the nominee