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inchhigh

(384 posts)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:52 AM Mar 2016

Hillary Clinton cannot win US election

The rise of anti-establishment movements around the world will hit global investment, Wall Street profits and Hillary Clinton's chances of winning the presidency, according to a self-described libertarian economist.

Steen Jakobsen, chief economist at Danish investment bank Saxo Bank, believes the "social contract" — the agreement between the ruled and the rulers — is now broken, and this can be seen in the rise of Donald Trump.

Jakobsen says we may have reached a nadir in terms of political ambitions, investments, capital expenditure, employment, inflation and growth. He sees this as the end of "planned economies" that were adopted after the fall of the Berlin Wall.


http://www.cnbc.com/2016/03/29/hillary-clinton-cannot-win-us-election-economist.html

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Hillary Clinton cannot win US election (Original Post) inchhigh Mar 2016 OP
This is true... GeorgiaPeanuts Mar 2016 #1
"Libertarian economist" emulatorloo Mar 2016 #2
Two and a half million voters in the democratic primary disagree. Firebrand Gary Mar 2016 #3
To me, the 2.5 million votes for Hillary do not by any means prove that the ladjf Mar 2016 #5
Beaten down by 3 to 1 and even 4 to 1 margins. . . in all states last week. OUCH!!!!! pdsimdars Mar 2016 #6
Out of 150,000,000 eligible voters. KPN Mar 2016 #7
You do realize that many votes are not recorded Gwhittey Mar 2016 #8
yep! And how about the many that have been disenfranchised dana_b Mar 2016 #15
... jham123 Mar 2016 #18
Trump has less because there were more running in the GOP primary pinebox Mar 2016 #24
lol artyteacher Mar 2016 #4
I disagree with your comments. ladjf Mar 2016 #9
^^this^^ Cleita Mar 2016 #10
Yep. nt BreakfastClub Mar 2016 #13
Libertarian: "Trump ... represents chaos in a world of order and this is what U.S. voters want." pampango Mar 2016 #11
The "order" being imposed benefits a tiny few while the masses continue to lose ground. stillwaiting Mar 2016 #17
Trump offers chaos. Bernie a better order. I know which I choose. n/t pampango Mar 2016 #19
Absolutely! stillwaiting Mar 2016 #20
monday's ny times' lead article was about how the masses are done w/ establishment candidates amborin Mar 2016 #12
Nothing in the article supports that conclusion. Orsino Mar 2016 #14
a bankster from Denmark says it, so it must be true nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #16
The Free Market system and the smart investors disagree with this idiot Gothmog Mar 2016 #21
im not sure smart investors disagree inchhigh Mar 2016 #22
I am referring to the investors who are making a market in options on the US election results Gothmog Mar 2016 #23
Uh hu. seabeyond Mar 2016 #25
16 Recs for the opinions of one libertarian dude? MadBadger Mar 2016 #26
 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
1. This is true...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:53 AM
Mar 2016

She doesn't even have the nomination locked up. She is cruising along in the slow lane and Bernie is fast approaching in the passing lane. Objects in the mirror are closer than they appear.

Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)
3. Two and a half million voters in the democratic primary disagree.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:59 AM
Mar 2016

Hmmmm, in fact Hillary has a million more votes than Trump does...

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
5. To me, the 2.5 million votes for Hillary do not by any means prove that the
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:02 AM
Mar 2016

above mentioned economist is wrong, only that we have millions of uniformed Americans.

 

Gwhittey

(1,377 posts)
8. You do realize that many votes are not recorded
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:05 AM
Mar 2016

Their is not popular vote tracking in many states. What you see called votes are vote from a precinct in many states. So when people say she has gotten X number of votes that is only from states that are primaries.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
15. yep! And how about the many that have been disenfranchised
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:25 PM
Mar 2016

like in Arizona? They weren't given a chance to vote

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
9. I disagree with your comments.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:10 AM
Mar 2016

1. Looking at the entire election current situation, Hillary is not "kicking Bernie's ass" although she does have more popular votes and delegates. It's still a close race, too close to be an "ass kicking". Even if she goes on the win the nomination, it will likely be a squeaker.

2. She's isn't having ANY impact on Trump's standing. He, like the master "con man" that he is,
has been able to create a base of like minded people, with the help of the media that gave him billions of dollars worth of publicity. (They now appear to be trying to put on the brakes.) Her few feeble remarks directed toward Trump were harmless "spit balls" . Hillary has fought lots of battles and is tough, but as a character assassin specialist, she's an amateur compared to Trump. Further, she is "living in a glass house". Trump will use those issues to try to "do her in" politically.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
11. Libertarian: "Trump ... represents chaos in a world of order and this is what U.S. voters want."
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:46 AM
Mar 2016

My guess is that libertarians live for the coming of the day of "chaos in the world of order" and that Trump is the candidate most likely to bring some good ol' chaos.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
17. The "order" being imposed benefits a tiny few while the masses continue to lose ground.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:34 PM
Mar 2016

Most Americans get this I believe.

When that's the "order" it's understandable that many will want to crumble that particular "order".

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
20. Absolutely!
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:53 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie gives us a chance to avoid the chaos that will be inevitable if we don't choose him.

The Democratic Party is not going to be the same in the very near future regardless of who wins this Primary. We will reform it and grow it with Bernie or it will surely being to splinter and fragment. How fast the Party would fragment I haven't a clue (although it has already lost a hell of a lot of support over the past few decades), but it might happen much faster than many would believe.

Those elected to serve us have betrayed us for too long, and they are now too openly brazen about it. There will obviously be consequences eventually for that.

It would not surprise me to find out that TPTB behind elected politicians want the Democratic Party to split. Canada's conservatives had a majority government with 38% of the vote. If TPTB could get the Dem Party to split they wouldn't even have to steal as many votes in the future.



amborin

(16,631 posts)
12. monday's ny times' lead article was about how the masses are done w/ establishment candidates
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:49 AM
Mar 2016

was mainly about trump but also mentioned dems

Gothmog

(145,789 posts)
21. The Free Market system and the smart investors disagree with this idiot
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:00 PM
Mar 2016

If this idiot really believes this stupidity, then he needs to open an Irish brokerage account right now and lock in the current great pricing for Sanders not becoming the nominee http://predictwise.com/politics/2016-president-democratic-nomination

inchhigh

(384 posts)
22. im not sure smart investors disagree
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:01 AM
Mar 2016

overall the stock market is in a downtrend and this little bounce over the past couple of months has been on exceptionally light volume. Retail investors are still buying but companies have stopped buying back their own stock and institutional investors are slightly net short US stocks. the stock market seems completely dependant on the Federal Reserve and mostly responding to hope that they will back off on their plan to raise rates or the fear that they will actually do it. It is less dependant on actual revenue expectations that i have ever seen it.

Gothmog

(145,789 posts)
23. I am referring to the investors who are making a market in options on the US election results
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:57 AM
Mar 2016

You can buy contracts or options on the results of the Democratic Primary process or the results of the 2016 general elections. There is a free market system for such contracts and these investors are the people who disagree with this assessments. You can check out the pricing of these option contracts on this website, http://predictwise.com/politics/2016-president-democratic-nomination Right now, the free market system is giving Sanders a 9% chance of being the nominee

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