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CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:32 AM Mar 2016

Barney Frank Is Not Impressed by Bernie Sanders

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/interrogation/2016/03/barney_frank_is_not_impressed_by_bernie_sanders.html

Interesting Quote:
Bernie Sanders has been in Congress for 25 years with little to show for it in terms of his accomplishments and that’s because of the role he stakes out.


What do you make of Bernie Sanders’ success thus far, even if he is likely to come up short in terms of delegates?


Barney Frank: Remember he’s way behind not just in delegates but in votes.

Yeah I know, but still—

It’s ironic that we complain about voter suppression and shortened voting times and then we have so many caucuses. The caucuses are the least democratic political operation in America. They cater to the people who have a lot of time on their hands, and what’s interesting is Sanders is the nominee of the caucuses and Hillary is the nominee of the primaries.

I am disappointed by the voters who say, “OK I’m just going to show you how angry I am!” And I’m particularly unimpressed with people who sat out the Congressional elections of 2010 and 2014 and then are angry at Democrats because we haven’t been able to produce public policies they like. They contributed to the public policy problems and now they are blaming other people for their own failure to vote, and then it’s like, “Oh look at this terrible system,” but it was their voting behavior that brought it about.

So it seems like you’re saying Bernie’s voters have a slightly unrealistic sense about the political process. And that this is driven—

I didn’t say slightly.

OK.

Bernie Sanders has been in Congress for 25 years with little to show for it in terms of his accomplishments and that’s because of the role he stakes out. It is harder to get things done in the American political system than a lot of people realize, and what happens is they blame the people in office for the system. And that’s the same with the Tea Party. It’s “I voted for these Republicans, we have a Republican Congress, we voted for them, they took over Congress, they didn’t accomplish anything.” You gotta win at least two elections in a row.
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Barney Frank Is Not Impressed by Bernie Sanders (Original Post) CajunBlazer Mar 2016 OP
I'm not impressed by Bankster Barnie. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #1
You beat me to it. ..nt TeeYiYi Mar 2016 #6
They don't even see it coming. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #9
What else do you expect from banker friendly Barney?? tokenlib Mar 2016 #8
He has a lot at stake, mostly his new job and bank account. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #11
+1000 Barney is a big banker now, of course he opposes Bernie: amborin Mar 2016 #18
+1 daleanime Mar 2016 #32
My first thought!! haikugal Mar 2016 #38
Elizabeth Warren wanted that "Bankster" to temporarily fill Kerry's seat. MADem Mar 2016 #39
That's nice but I really don't care, he also bailed on transgender people. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #40
Mmmm hmmm. nt MADem Mar 2016 #41
That's what I thought. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #42
If he weren't now spending his time insulting Bernie voters... Armstead Mar 2016 #77
Golden revolving door? He's a board member--not a lobbyist--at a medium sized MADem Mar 2016 #79
It's not some nice little community bank. Its a big and rapidly growing regional bank. Armstead Mar 2016 #82
It's the kind of bank Liz Warren likes. Of course it's not a "community" bank. MADem Mar 2016 #83
Take a chill pill Armstead Mar 2016 #85
I'm not getting personal with you--keep your chill pills. MADem Mar 2016 #86
I didn't read a word of what that crook had to say. Not worth the time. n/t Skwmom Mar 2016 #43
This under the bus meme is so overdone I don't think they realize how ridiculous they look. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #44
It is a stupid meme. What in the hell are corporate hacks doing on the bus to begin with? n/t Skwmom Mar 2016 #48
Thank you. Octafish Mar 2016 #50
Excuse me? You dropped that mic. hrmbaja Mar 2016 #54
Ibid choie Mar 2016 #65
I doubt Bernie is impressed with the lobbyist Barney Frank. I know I'm not. Autumn Mar 2016 #2
Under the bus goes Barney Frank CajunBlazer Mar 2016 #13
He was under the bus with me before Bernie. Autumn Mar 2016 #14
Exactly, Barney threw us under the bus for money. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #16
Yep. We are just terrible, so very very terrible. Autumn Mar 2016 #20
I may never talk to myself again. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #22
I'm gonna write myself outta my will. Autumn Mar 2016 #25
I'm going to disown myself. I am dead to me. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #26
All Democrats are under the bus here. onehandle Mar 2016 #35
Nah you are wrong. I like Hillary. I just don't want her near the White House Autumn Mar 2016 #66
It's actually pretty amusing, at the end of the day. Barney, Liz Warren...who's left? MADem Mar 2016 #72
Right there with all the trans people Frank threw under the bus on ENDA... nt LostOne4Ever Mar 2016 #23
And now he's a banker n/t arcane1 Mar 2016 #76
Since he has thrown everyone who supports Bernie under that bus... Armstead Mar 2016 #78
Barney Frank is now a lobbyist for the banking industry. jeff47 Mar 2016 #3
Which firm does he work for? nt MADem Mar 2016 #46
Here hrmbaja Mar 2016 #57
No. That's not a lobbying firm. That is a medium sized bank...of the sort that Liz Warren approves. MADem Mar 2016 #73
"I didn’t say slightly" Tarc Mar 2016 #4
I chuckled when I read that also. riversedge Mar 2016 #37
+1 CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #55
But that means leftynyc Mar 2016 #81
Bernie Gets It Done: Sanders' Record of Pushing Through Major Reforms Will Surprise You Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #5
Don't forget 2/3rds of his greatest legislative triumphs cosmicone Mar 2016 #24
No, but you'll keep repeating that despite the evidence you've been presented.n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #27
Whenever I see your posts I'm tempted to start believing in God. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #29
That means I am effective cosmicone Mar 2016 #30
Yes I'm sure you are, but not in the way you think. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #31
#feelthemath cosmicone Mar 2016 #33
#feeltheidiocy hrmbaja Mar 2016 #60
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahaha cosmicone Mar 2016 #62
As Senator, Hillary initiated 4 bills that became law. One named a road after Tim Russert, another Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #51
Should post separately and ignore the spin machine. JackRiddler Mar 2016 #69
I ,as well as my transgender friends, aren't impressed with Barney Frank. m-lekktor Mar 2016 #7
That too, thanks for the reminder. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #12
Funny how a politician who has had ethics issues is trashing Bernie . Autumn Mar 2016 #70
So? Isn't he a banking lobbyist? senseandsensibility Mar 2016 #10
ROLL TIDE SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2016 #15
I love this guy. Wow! Jamaal510 Mar 2016 #17
Poor Bankster Barney...The only way to impress him is to slip him a big, fat envelope... AzDar Mar 2016 #19
He makes 60K a year as a board member at a bank that HELPS SMALL BUSINESSES. MADem Mar 2016 #74
Most bank lobbyists are not feeling the Bern jfern Mar 2016 #21
Why can't anyone tell us what firm he's lobbying for? MADem Mar 2016 #75
If you want to impress someone with another person not being impressed.... Kalidurga Mar 2016 #28
Which big bank is he lobbying for? nt MADem Mar 2016 #45
Which? Kalidurga Mar 2016 #67
What firm is he associated with, and what's his portfolio? MADem Mar 2016 #71
Another good Democrat who'll be thrown under the bus. Hoyt Mar 2016 #34
So, Barney is proud of his collaboration with Republicans and blaming voters for his caving. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #36
Barney Frank is a smuck....he's a boardmember for a NY based bank, n/t blueintelligentsia Mar 2016 #47
Barney Frank supported the 'non inclusive' ENDA which was in fact about excluding transgender people Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #49
Of course they don´t Puglover Mar 2016 #58
exactly! m-lekktor Mar 2016 #68
I'm not impressed with Barney Frank. LWolf Mar 2016 #52
"I’m particularly unimpressed with people who sat out the Congressional elections of 2010 and 2014 FSogol Mar 2016 #53
What a rude thing to say randr Mar 2016 #56
Banker Barney Belittles Bernie Ed Suspicious Mar 2016 #59
That's right! notadmblnd Mar 2016 #61
So that's why was Bernie was ineffective CajunBlazer Mar 2016 #87
Join the millions. nt LexVegas Mar 2016 #63
I agree with Barney Frank on this Gothmog Mar 2016 #64
Who exactly cares what Barney Frank has to say? highprincipleswork Mar 2016 #80
I'm not at all impressed with Barney Frank. malokvale77 Mar 2016 #84

tokenlib

(4,186 posts)
8. What else do you expect from banker friendly Barney??
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:38 AM
Mar 2016

..and I used to like the guy until I realized how "New Dem" he really was..

amborin

(16,631 posts)
18. +1000 Barney is a big banker now, of course he opposes Bernie:
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:58 AM
Mar 2016

Barney Frank–Yes, THAT Barney Frank–Joins a Bank Board

wsj.com

Barney Frank–Yes, THAT Barney Frank–Joins a Bank Board #soldout blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2015…


Barney Frank joins Signature Bank board

crainsnewyork.com

No wonder Dodd/Frank is so weak- Barney Frank joins Signature Bank board | Crain's New York Business crainsnewyork.com/article/201506…


MADem

(135,425 posts)
39. Elizabeth Warren wanted that "Bankster" to temporarily fill Kerry's seat.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 02:13 AM
Mar 2016

She and he campaigned to get young Joe Kennedy to Congress.

Soooooo.....who goes under the bus first?

By ElizabethForMA - -18, CC BY 2.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=20711497

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
40. That's nice but I really don't care, he also bailed on transgender people.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 02:16 AM
Mar 2016

I don't base my opinions on what others think.

Ymmv

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
77. If he weren't now spending his time insulting Bernie voters...
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:38 PM
Mar 2016

If he wants to follow the Golden Revolving Door to cash in on his political career, and support Clinton, hey we all gotta do what we gotta do.

But aiming his legendary nastyiness at the supporters of her opponent is....well, worthy of a visit under the public transit vehicle.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
79. Golden revolving door? He's a board member--not a lobbyist--at a medium sized
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:49 PM
Mar 2016

bank that gives LOANS to SMALL BUSINESSES. You know, small businesses that EMPLOY AMERICANS....

Here at DU, that morphs, in some bizarre fashion, into "BANKSTER LOBBYIST WALL STREET WAAAAH."

The sort of bank for which he works is in the group of banks that signed on to the reforms that Frank and Warren were pushing for.

But let's not let facts interfere with a good excoriation, I guess....smh.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
82. It's not some nice little community bank. Its a big and rapidly growing regional bank.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:57 PM
Mar 2016

They're not an evil institution, but it's just another example of the unseemly ties between government and the power brokers.

It's not like they're rewarding some longtime employee or career professional for their years of work on the front lines.

He was hired for his connections and insider knowledge of the intersection between banking and government. And there is little doubt he will become a defacto lobbyist. And probably pluck a few more golden plums.

Hey, I said we all gotta do what we gotta do...but he's basically selling his connections on the open market. And jumping from being a regulator to the industry he was regulating -- and then insu ting people who want reform is just typical of what a closed loop it has become.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
83. It's the kind of bank Liz Warren likes. Of course it's not a "community" bank.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:05 PM
Mar 2016

It specializes in small business loans.

It's not a multi-national large bank, either. It's right in the middle. It has to do a good job, do right by itself and its customers, and it is not Too Big To Fail.

But that's a long way, from getting sixty grand a year to provide advice and perspective learned after decades in Congress specializing in banking issues, to "LOBBYING BANKSTER WALL STREET WAAAH" which is what he is being--falsely--accused of doing.

He is not "selling his connections." He sits on a board, he argues with other board members, and they vote on shit. We do this, we don't do that. He's not a lobbyist, he is nothing LIKE a lobbyist, and the work he is doing is good work. He's at a bank that helps small businesses.

You have to be very, very determined to find fault with him for doing this. How dare he use his years of experience to do post-retirement work that could benefit someone? Yeah--fuck those small businesses--they should be going to banks that are guided by morons who know nothing about federal law!!!!!

s. m. d. h.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
85. Take a chill pill
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:39 PM
Mar 2016

I'm not among those yelling that he is a big Wall St,. bankster....I'm somewhere in the middle about it. I just see it as an example of the too cozy relationship between business and government -- especially those who were instrumental in regulating business.

But I do take umbrage at his insults to Sanders voters. First of all who is he to assume he knows who they are, or what they have done or not done in the past? And what is the purpose of being so nasty about it?

If he supports Clinton, why doesn't he just focus on trying to sell her instead of telling me and millions of others what a bunch od fucking losers he thinks we are?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
86. I'm not getting personal with you--keep your chill pills.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:58 PM
Mar 2016

This thread IS what it IS, though--Waaah waaah waaah bankster lobbyist.

That's my point and the thread proves it.

You can disagree with his opinions on Sanders all you'd like. I just don't think it is appropriate for anyone (not YOU, certainly) to make shit up about the guy (bankster Wall Street Lobbyist Oh MY) to "prove" what a "bad person" he is for not liking Sanders.

I will say this--he worked with Sanders for years and years. He's got an inside perspective none of us have. I've never known Barn to not speak his mind, and I think he's pretty upfront with his views. You don't have to agree with him, but I think he speaks with cause.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
44. This under the bus meme is so overdone I don't think they realize how ridiculous they look.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 02:21 AM
Mar 2016

Every time we criticize someone they show up with that vapid "under the bus!" mantra.


CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
13. Under the bus goes Barney Frank
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:41 AM
Mar 2016

Frank was one of the most liberal Congressmen in recent memory, but under the Bernie Bus he goes. It's getting to be a very bumpy ride for those on the Bernie Bus running over all of Democratic bodies.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
35. All Democrats are under the bus here.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 01:40 AM
Mar 2016

Only one is pure enough for the 'Not Hillary' Party and her name is Elizabeth Warren.

I mean his name is Bernie Sanders.

Oops.

Elizabeth is who they wanted, but they settled for Bernie. All others UNDER THE BUS.

Autumn

(45,071 posts)
66. Nah you are wrong. I like Hillary. I just don't want her near the White House
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:48 AM
Mar 2016

unless she's there on a tour. Barney Frank? I don't have to like him, I haven't for some time.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
72. It's actually pretty amusing, at the end of the day. Barney, Liz Warren...who's left?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:05 PM
Mar 2016

Russ Feingold has "sinned" too--how long before we hear the sound of crunching as he, too, is tossed under the multi-passenger conveyance?

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
78. Since he has thrown everyone who supports Bernie under that bus...
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:41 PM
Mar 2016

he deserves to have the favor returned.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
3. Barney Frank is now a lobbyist for the banking industry.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:36 AM
Mar 2016

Of course he doesn't want Sanders. Frank would lose a ton of money.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
73. No. That's not a lobbying firm. That is a medium sized bank...of the sort that Liz Warren approves.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:08 PM
Mar 2016

Do you even read your own material?

They make loans to SMALL BUSINESSES!!!!!


A member of the board (which Frank is now) makes recommendations as to the future of the bank, which direction they should go in terms of their financials--it is an INTERNAL position. A lobbyist goes to Congress, must be registered as a lobbyist, and advocates for an industry.

Which LOBBYING FIRM is he LOBBYING for, and what is his portfolio?

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
4. "I didn’t say slightly"
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:36 AM
Mar 2016


Some around here are going to be feeling that "bern" for quite awhile. I love Barney Frank, my old hometown rep.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
5. Bernie Gets It Done: Sanders' Record of Pushing Through Major Reforms Will Surprise You
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:37 AM
Mar 2016

What kind of experience does Bernie Sanders have? Let's take a look.

“I'm a progressive, but I'm a progressive who likes to get things done,” Hillary Clinton said at the first Democratic debate, in response to a question from moderator Anderson Cooper about whether she defines herself as a moderate or a progressive.

The implication was that progressive Bernie Sanders is too far to the left to accomplish anything—all of his ideas are pie-in-the-sky. You have to be able to find the bipartisan, “warm, purple space” as Clinton said earlier this year, to get anything done. Slate's Jamelle Bouie was super-impressed by this rationale, saying Clinton has “skilled use of bureaucratic power.”

The problem with this narrative is that it is completely false. Not only has Sanders gotten a lot more things done than Clinton did in her own short legislative career, he's actually one of the most effective members of Congress, passing bills, both big and small, that have reshaped American policy on key issues like poverty, the environment and health care.

The Amendment King

Congress is not known to be a progressive institution lately, to say the least. Over the past few decades, the House of Representatives was only controlled by the Democrats from 2007 to 2010, and a flood of corporate money has quieted the once-powerful progressive movement that passed legislation moving the country forward between the New Deal era and the Great Society. Yet, as difficult as it may be to believe, a socialist from Vermont is one of its most accomplished members.

Bernie Sanders was first elected to the House of Representatives in 1990, and many immediately doubted his efficacy. “It is virtually impossible for an independent to be effective in the House,” said then-Congressman Bill Richardson (D-NM). “As an independent you are kind of a homeless waif.” Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA), today an outspoken advocate for Hillary Clinton, said Bernie's “holier-than-thou attitude—saying in a very loud voice he is smarter than everyone else and purer than everyone else—really undercuts his effectiveness.”

As if things didn't look bad enough, in 1994 the Republicans swept into power in the House of Representatives, dashing the hopes of many that Congress could do anything progressive whatsoever. But Sanders was not content with tilting at windmills. He didn't want to just take a stand, he wanted to pass legislation that improved the United States of America. He found his vehicle in legislative amendments.

Amendments in the House of Representatives are often seen as secondary vehicles to legislation that individual members sponsor, but they are an important way to move resources and build bipartisan coalitions to change the direction of the law. Despite the fact that the most right-wing Republicans in a generation controlled the House of Representatives between 1994 and 2006, the member who passed the most amendments during that time was not a right-winger like Bob Barr or John Boehner. The amendment king was, instead, Bernie Sanders.

Sanders did something particularly original, which was that he passed amendments that were exclusively progressive, advancing goals such as reducing poverty and helping the environment, and he was able to get bipartisan coalitions of Republicans who wanted to shrink government or hold it accountable and progressives who wanted to use it to empower Americans.

Here are a few examples of the amendments Sanders passed by building unusual but effective coalitions:

Corporate Crime Accountability (February 1995): A Sanders amendment to the Victims Justice Act of 1995 required “offenders who are convicted of fraud and other white-collar crimes to give notice to victims and other persons in cases where there are multiple victims eligible to receive restitution.”

Saving Money, for Colleges and Taxpayers (April 1998): In an amendment to H.R. 6, the Higher Education Amendments of 1998, Sanders made a change to the law that allowed the Fund for the Improvement of Postsecondary Education to make competitive grants available to colleges and universities that cooperated to reduce costs through joint purchases of goods and services.

Holding IRS Accountable, Protecting Pensions (July 2002): Sanders' amendment to the Treasury and General Government Appropriations Act of 2003 stopped the IRS from being able to use funds that “violate current pension age discrimination laws.” Although he faced stiff GOP opposition, his amendment still succeeded along a 308 to 121 vote.

Expanding Free Health Care (November 2001): You wouldn't think Republicans would agree to an expansion of funds for community health centers, which provide some free services. But Sanders was able to win a $100 million increase in funding with an amendment.

Getting Tough On Child Labor (July 2001): A Sanders amendment to the general appropriations bill prohibited the importation of goods made with child labor.

Increasing Funding for Heating for the Poor (September 2004): Sanders won a $22 million increase for the low-income home energy assistance program and related weatherization assistance program.

Fighting Corporate Welfare and Protecting Against Nuclear Disasters (June 2005): A Sanders amendment brought together a bipartisan coalition that outnumbered a bipartisan coalition on the other side to successfully prohibit the Export-Import Bank from providing loans for nuclear projects in China.

Once Sanders made it to the Senate in 2006, his ability to use amendments to advance a progressive agenda was empowered. Here are some of the amendments he passed in the Senate:

Greening the U.S. Government (June 2007): A Sanders amendment made a change to the law so at least 30 percent of the hot water demand in newer federal buildings is provided through solar water heaters.

Protecting Our Troops (October 2007): Sanders used an amendment to win $10 million for operation and maintenance of the Army National Guard, which had been stretched thin and overextended by the war in Iraq.

Restricting the Bailout to Protect U.S. Workers (Feburary 2009): A Sanders amendment required the banking bailout to utilize stricter H-1B hiring standards to ensure bailout funds weren't used to displace American workers.

Helping Veterans' Kids (July 2009): A Sanders amendment required the Comptroller General to put together comprehensive reporting on financial assistance for child care available to parents in the Armed Forces.

Exposing Corruption in the Military-Industrial Complex (November 2012): A Sanders amendment required “public availability of the database of senior Department officials seeking employment with defense contractors” – an important step toward transparency that revealed the corruption of the revolving door in action.

Support for Treating Autism in Military Health Care: Sanders worked with Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) to pass an amendment by a vote of 66-29 ensuring that the military's TRICARE system would be able to treat autism.

Using the Power of a Senator

While Sanders was an amendment king who was able to bring bipartisan coalitions together to make serious changes to laws, he also knew how to be a thorn in the side of the establishment until it offered up something in return. Sanders was able to get the first-ever audit of funds given out by the Federal Reserve, which made transparent over $2 trillion of funds handed out by the secretive organization. This was a cause that Republican congressman Ron Paul (TX) had been pursuing for decades, but Sanders was able to get the votes to do it by forging a compromise that required an audit for the bailout period alone.

When the Affordable Care Act was in danger of not having the votes to pass, Sanders used his leverage to win enough funding for free health treatment for 10 million Americans through Community Health Centers. This gutsy move—holding out until the funds were put into the bill—has even Republican members of Congress requesting the funds, which have helped millions of Americans who otherwise would not have access.

Another moment came when Sanders, who was then chair of the Veterans committee, worked with Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), to overhaul the Veterans Administration. McCain praised Sanders' work on the bill in an interview with National Journal. Sen. Jack Reed (D-RI) even went so far as to say the bill would never have passed without Sanders' ability to bring the parties to a deal.

His Theory of Change, From Burlington to the White House

The big question is, can Sanders translate his time as an effective senator into an effective president? After all, a legislative job is different than an executive job.

But Sanders has a theory of change, in order to be an executive who can pass progressive policy even in the face of a recalcitrant Congress. He frequently talks about a “political revolution” that means vastly increasing voter turnout and participation in political activities so conservative lawmakers and Big Money are unable to overwhelm public opinion. During the Democratic debate, this line had its doubters, from former Sen. Jim Webb (D-VA) to a skeptical Anderson Cooper.

Sanders is probably not so unsure of himself. After all, he's done it before. When Sanders was mayor of Burlington, Vermont, one of his big accomplishments was to increase civic life in the city. During the course of his terms, voter turnout doubled. In his eight years as mayor, he rejuvenated a city that was considered by many to be dying, laying out progressive policies that cities around the country later adopted, and he did all this without particularly alienating Republicans. As one former GOP Alderman noted, he implemented ideas from the Republican party that he felt were not particularly harmful to working people, such as more efficient accounting practices.

It's easy for the establishment media and politicians to make the assumption that Bernie Sanders is not an effective lawmaker or executive. He has strong convictions and he stands by them, and we're often told that makes one a gadfly—someone who is out to make a point rather than make an actual change. But with Sanders we have the fusion of strong principles and the ability to forge odd bedfellow coalitions that accomplish historic things, like the audit of the Federal Reserve or the rejuvenation of Burlington that has served as a model for cities around the country. “Don't underestimate me,” Sanders said at the beginning of the race, words that anyone who knows his political and policy history take to heart.

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/bernie-gets-it-done-sanders-record-pushing-through-major-reforms-will-surprise-you

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
29. Whenever I see your posts I'm tempted to start believing in God.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 01:21 AM
Mar 2016

Just so I can thank him for your not being a Bernie supporter.

But I end up thanking dog instead.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
51. As Senator, Hillary initiated 4 bills that became law. One named a road after Tim Russert, another
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:33 AM
Mar 2016

two were Post Office names and the forth was the designation of a National Historic Site. That's it.

m-lekktor

(3,675 posts)
7. I ,as well as my transgender friends, aren't impressed with Barney Frank.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:38 AM
Mar 2016


I would wear that asshole's dislike as a badge of honor.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
74. He makes 60K a year as a board member at a bank that HELPS SMALL BUSINESSES.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:32 PM
Mar 2016

It is the sort of bank that he and Liz Warren think are IDEAL, in fact.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
75. Why can't anyone tell us what firm he's lobbying for?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:33 PM
Mar 2016

Why can't anyone link to his lobbying registration?

I'd love to see this material.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
28. If you want to impress someone with another person not being impressed....
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 01:19 AM
Mar 2016

You should find someone that person respects. Bernie supporters don't respect lobbyists for big banks.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
71. What firm is he associated with, and what's his portfolio?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:46 PM
Mar 2016

I heard he joined the board of a medium-sized bank, of the sort that he and Liz Warren worked with at the outset when they were working together to craft legislation. The ones that were not "the enemy" and signed on to their reform efforts.

I hadn't heard he was "lobbying" and was interested in where he's doing this work and what his portfolio is.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
36. So, Barney is proud of his collaboration with Republicans and blaming voters for his caving.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 01:48 AM
Mar 2016

Nice to know.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
49. Barney Frank supported the 'non inclusive' ENDA which was in fact about excluding transgender people
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:30 AM
Mar 2016

from protections against discrimination that bill would have provided to gay people and bisexuals. This is to me exactly the same as excluding parts of one's own family. Barney had many rationalizations for his betrayal but they all amounted to 'I want, me, I have to get credit, I'm rich, I'm famous'.

He's like the HRC, straight people cite him when they think they are being 'hip to the LGBT scene, man' when what they are really doing is demonstrating their lack of knowledge and connection to the community.

The OP and lots of Straight Hillary supporters obviously do not know this history or they do not care about the transgender community. It's one of the two.

Now gather up your straight friends and go proudly stand with Barney.



Puglover

(16,380 posts)
58. Of course they don´t
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:39 AM
Mar 2016

know the history.

You are spot on. They trot out Frank for exactly the reason you cite.

Thank God most folks don´t buy this horseshit.

If nothing else this election cycle has taught me once and for all that these people are in no way shape or form our allies. I will not make the mistake of thinking otherwise again.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
52. I'm not impressed with Barney Frank.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:33 AM
Mar 2016

Of course, I'm not impressed by many people, including a lot of self-identifying Democrats.

It's a good thing I don't hold my breath waiting for Barney Frank and others to impress me.

FSogol

(45,484 posts)
53. "I’m particularly unimpressed with people who sat out the Congressional elections of 2010 and 2014
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:34 AM
Mar 2016

and then are angry at Democrats because we haven’t been able to produce public policies they like. They contributed to the public policy problems and now they are blaming other people for their own failure to vote, and then it’s like, “Oh look at this terrible system,” but it was their voting behavior that brought it about."

randr

(12,412 posts)
56. What a rude thing to say
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:37 AM
Mar 2016

Elections are controlled by people with enough time to show up as well. Barney has been in the bubble too long.

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