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SHRED

(28,136 posts)
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 02:51 AM Mar 2016

I don't think we ever will see those speech transcripts

I guess we don't have a right to see what was said to those who really do run our country.

She is giving speeches and being paid for them by fascists and we're just suppose to ignore it.

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I don't think we ever will see those speech transcripts (Original Post) SHRED Mar 2016 OP
No one pays six figures to be criticized, castigated, and LibDemAlways Mar 2016 #1
No one cares except Bernie-his fans and of course Chuckie Toad riversedge Mar 2016 #2
I think you're right casperthegm Mar 2016 #10
Brilliant! revbones Mar 2016 #30
Not until the general, then it will all come out Fumesucker Mar 2016 #3
There is no right to see anything private cosmicone Mar 2016 #4
BWAAAHAAAHAAA! Avalux Mar 2016 #6
Still a private event. n/t cosmicone Mar 2016 #15
My mind is boggled by your lack of understanding. n/t Avalux Mar 2016 #16
I'll help you... GeorgiaPeanuts Mar 2016 #21
As I like to say.... Avalux Mar 2016 #29
Thanksgiving would interesting SHRED Mar 2016 #11
I see what you did there-- hehehehehe TheDormouse Mar 2016 #19
Well...they mentioned a holiday afterall SHRED Mar 2016 #20
If she sold dinner table seats to wall street CEOs for $250,000 each, I'd ask what was on the menu lumberjack_jeff Mar 2016 #26
The fundraising dinners DO NOT increase the limit on contributions cosmicone Mar 2016 #33
Gibberish. She was paid millions for *something* lumberjack_jeff Mar 2016 #34
You win the cheese n/t cosmicone Mar 2016 #35
Yes, because they are exactly the same. revbones Mar 2016 #31
It is no longer an important issue Tarc Mar 2016 #5
Probably not, and nobody cares. Except for people who consider private enterprise to be "fascist". DanTex Mar 2016 #7
I'm not against private enterprise SHRED Mar 2016 #12
Ooooh. Standing up for Wall St now. Going full right wing? nt revbones Mar 2016 #32
perhaps partly explains why she's reluctant to debate in NY: Qns about transcripts amborin Mar 2016 #8
Maybe she's waiting to see if she HAS to release them. PonyUp Mar 2016 #9
if anyone who was undecided cared, maybe she would geek tragedy Mar 2016 #13
and I'm sure you've done the polling SHRED Mar 2016 #18
I'm sure the Repukes are interested... SHRED Mar 2016 #23
you really think Clinton, in prepared remarks for which she kept an accurate transcript, geek tragedy Mar 2016 #24
we may find out SHRED Mar 2016 #27
No way she's ever going to release them, she knows what's in them EndElectoral Mar 2016 #14
We won't. She is a lawyer and said stuff her clients (the people paying for her time) IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #17
We might... SHRED Mar 2016 #22
Yes, dammit! The fate of the world depends on you ignoring her broken promises and ethics problems! lumberjack_jeff Mar 2016 #25
55 days. Orsino Mar 2016 #28
Probably not. But I doubt there's any "smoking gun" there anyway. Buns_of_Fire Mar 2016 #36
If she doesn't want to share what she said Bettie Mar 2016 #37
And if tRump gets their nomination... SHRED Mar 2016 #38
Haven't you heard... Bettie Mar 2016 #39
I think we'll see so called "transcripts" when she's ready to pivot running as a Republican. nt Skwmom Mar 2016 #40

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
1. No one pays six figures to be criticized, castigated, and
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:12 AM
Mar 2016

called on the carpet. Hillary was paid that money to tell those crooks exactly what they wanted to hear. It's like a famous musician who accepts a princely sum to appear at a private function hosted by a millionaire. The guy writing the check calls the shots, and it's a safe bet the performer's set list is dictated by the host.

Hillary could level with the public and explain how the system works, or she can continue to stonewall and hope the issue goes away. Hopefully, Bernie won't let that happen.

casperthegm

(643 posts)
10. I think you're right
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:44 AM
Mar 2016

And that's what I find disconcerting. That the voting public lets this and much more go unchecked, shrugging it off as if this is just the way things go in politics...it's just sad.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
3. Not until the general, then it will all come out
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:55 AM
Mar 2016

I'm wondering what the worst possible timing for Clinton would be, about ten days before the election would be my pick but arguments can be made for bringing them out before that and let her swing in the wind for a while.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
4. There is no right to see anything private
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:40 AM
Mar 2016

Next you'd want transcripts of Hillary's Thanksgiving dinner with her family.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
6. BWAAAHAAAHAAA!
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:33 AM
Mar 2016

So you're equating Thanksgiving dinner to speeches given to a sector of our society that is trying to usurp our democracy?

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
21. I'll help you...
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 02:02 PM
Mar 2016

Clinton can do no harm.
Clinton is a Dem.
Clinton can do no harm.
Clinton is a Dem.

Repeat that 20 times every night before bed, and you will eventually receive the progra-- I mean light!

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
26. If she sold dinner table seats to wall street CEOs for $250,000 each, I'd ask what was on the menu
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 02:13 PM
Mar 2016

But yeah, there is no right to be annointed president either.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
33. The fundraising dinners DO NOT increase the limit on contributions
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 02:19 PM
Mar 2016

Even if she sold dinners for $100 billion, she can only keep $5400 of that money.

The rest of the money goes to DNC and various state democratic committees for down-ticket candidates ... like superdelegates.

Just saying there is something nefarious about a $250K dinner is an asinine smear.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
34. Gibberish. She was paid millions for *something*
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 02:22 PM
Mar 2016

The transcripts of the speeches when released, will hint at exactly what was being sold.

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
31. Yes, because they are exactly the same.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 02:18 PM
Mar 2016

Actually, now that you mention it - given that she spent holidays with Kissinger, I wonder which bankers she spends Thanksgiving with?

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
7. Probably not, and nobody cares. Except for people who consider private enterprise to be "fascist".
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:41 AM
Mar 2016
 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
12. I'm not against private enterprise
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:56 AM
Mar 2016

It's when it's interests steer our government away from us is when they are venturing into fascist territory.

See the difference?

amborin

(16,631 posts)
8. perhaps partly explains why she's reluctant to debate in NY: Qns about transcripts
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:42 AM
Mar 2016

bankers don't throw away big bucks for the fun of it

 

PonyUp

(1,680 posts)
9. Maybe she's waiting to see if she HAS to release them.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:43 AM
Mar 2016

If she's indicted there will be no need to.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
13. if anyone who was undecided cared, maybe she would
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:57 AM
Mar 2016

but when the only people making noise about it are Sanders supporters, no benefit

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
23. I'm sure the Repukes are interested...
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 02:08 PM
Mar 2016

...should she make it to the general election.
We will see them then and it will be too late.
Better to be vetted and transparent now and let it blow over now in my opinion.

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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
24. you really think Clinton, in prepared remarks for which she kept an accurate transcript,
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 02:09 PM
Mar 2016

made some game-changing remarks that would end her political career?

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
27. we may find out
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 02:13 PM
Mar 2016

I hope there is nothing to them actually considering she has a good chance at the nomination.
 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
17. We won't. She is a lawyer and said stuff her clients (the people paying for her time)
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 11:15 AM
Mar 2016

wanted to hear. Without that context - she was just saying what the audience wanted and didn't REALLY mean it - it would sound like she was criticizing Obama and making promises that would hurt the 99%.

Seriously, do you expect her to release the transcripts when they can damage her campaign?

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
25. Yes, dammit! The fate of the world depends on you ignoring her broken promises and ethics problems!
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 02:11 PM
Mar 2016

I think Walter Sobschak had it right. "Fuck it, let's go bowling".

Buns_of_Fire

(17,175 posts)
36. Probably not. But I doubt there's any "smoking gun" there anyway.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 02:45 PM
Mar 2016

Maybe some embarrassing stuff, but nothing catastrophic. It's not like the Clintons are known for their transparency.

The question has always been WHY whatever she said to a closed crowd was worth a quarter-million to hear.

(And those so inclined can save the Lady Gaga comparisons. Lady Gaga isn't running for President.)

Bettie

(16,105 posts)
37. If she doesn't want to share what she said
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:29 PM
Mar 2016

I think we can make pretty good guesses as to what was in there.

It isn't good for us "little people".

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
38. And if tRump gets their nomination...
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:35 PM
Mar 2016

...I'll bet he releases them at just the appropriate time to damage her.
I've heard him say many times that he can't be bought so it's kinda obvious where this could go.

Selfish on her part to not be vetted because it's potentially damaging to the party come November.

Bettie

(16,105 posts)
39. Haven't you heard...
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:40 PM
Mar 2016

she's inevitable!

She can literally not lose, she doesn't need any of us lousy lefties, she doesn't need independents, she's just going to win due to the many Republicans who will cross party lines because of their love for her.

So, clearly, vetting is not necessary, she's inevitable.

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