2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI don't think we ever will see those speech transcripts
I guess we don't have a right to see what was said to those who really do run our country.
She is giving speeches and being paid for them by fascists and we're just suppose to ignore it.
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LibDemAlways
(15,139 posts)called on the carpet. Hillary was paid that money to tell those crooks exactly what they wanted to hear. It's like a famous musician who accepts a princely sum to appear at a private function hosted by a millionaire. The guy writing the check calls the shots, and it's a safe bet the performer's set list is dictated by the host.
Hillary could level with the public and explain how the system works, or she can continue to stonewall and hope the issue goes away. Hopefully, Bernie won't let that happen.
riversedge
(70,214 posts)casperthegm
(643 posts)And that's what I find disconcerting. That the voting public lets this and much more go unchecked, shrugging it off as if this is just the way things go in politics...it's just sad.
revbones
(3,660 posts)You deflected and made fun of Chuck Todd's name! Sheer Brilliance!
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)I'm wondering what the worst possible timing for Clinton would be, about ten days before the election would be my pick but arguments can be made for bringing them out before that and let her swing in the wind for a while.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Next you'd want transcripts of Hillary's Thanksgiving dinner with her family.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)So you're equating Thanksgiving dinner to speeches given to a sector of our society that is trying to usurp our democracy?
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Avalux
(35,015 posts)GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)Clinton can do no harm.
Clinton is a Dem.
Clinton can do no harm.
Clinton is a Dem.
Repeat that 20 times every night before bed, and you will eventually receive the progra-- I mean light!
Avalux
(35,015 posts)be careful when you sell your soul, you may not like the new owner.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)TheDormouse
(1,168 posts)SHRED
(28,136 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)But yeah, there is no right to be annointed president either.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Even if she sold dinners for $100 billion, she can only keep $5400 of that money.
The rest of the money goes to DNC and various state democratic committees for down-ticket candidates ... like superdelegates.
Just saying there is something nefarious about a $250K dinner is an asinine smear.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)The transcripts of the speeches when released, will hint at exactly what was being sold.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)revbones
(3,660 posts)Actually, now that you mention it - given that she spent holidays with Kissinger, I wonder which bankers she spends Thanksgiving with?
Tarc
(10,476 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)SHRED
(28,136 posts)It's when it's interests steer our government away from us is when they are venturing into fascist territory.
See the difference?
revbones
(3,660 posts)amborin
(16,631 posts)bankers don't throw away big bucks for the fun of it
PonyUp
(1,680 posts)If she's indicted there will be no need to.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)but when the only people making noise about it are Sanders supporters, no benefit
SHRED
(28,136 posts)SHRED
(28,136 posts)...should she make it to the general election.
We will see them then and it will be too late.
Better to be vetted and transparent now and let it blow over now in my opinion.
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geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)made some game-changing remarks that would end her political career?
SHRED
(28,136 posts)I hope there is nothing to them actually considering she has a good chance at the nomination.
EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)wanted to hear. Without that context - she was just saying what the audience wanted and didn't REALLY mean it - it would sound like she was criticizing Obama and making promises that would hurt the 99%.
Seriously, do you expect her to release the transcripts when they can damage her campaign?
SHRED
(28,136 posts)I'm sure the Repukes will get them should she make it to the general.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)I think Walter Sobschak had it right. "Fuck it, let's go bowling".
Orsino
(37,428 posts)Buns_of_Fire
(17,175 posts)Maybe some embarrassing stuff, but nothing catastrophic. It's not like the Clintons are known for their transparency.
The question has always been WHY whatever she said to a closed crowd was worth a quarter-million to hear.
(And those so inclined can save the Lady Gaga comparisons. Lady Gaga isn't running for President.)
Bettie
(16,105 posts)I think we can make pretty good guesses as to what was in there.
It isn't good for us "little people".
SHRED
(28,136 posts)...I'll bet he releases them at just the appropriate time to damage her.
I've heard him say many times that he can't be bought so it's kinda obvious where this could go.
Selfish on her part to not be vetted because it's potentially damaging to the party come November.
Bettie
(16,105 posts)she's inevitable!
She can literally not lose, she doesn't need any of us lousy lefties, she doesn't need independents, she's just going to win due to the many Republicans who will cross party lines because of their love for her.
So, clearly, vetting is not necessary, she's inevitable.