Bern refuses to help other Democrats

[Cryptoad]

[revbones]

1. Maybe he should start a Victory Fund

that his campaign can make unlimited withdrawals from - under the guise of supporting the party? Or he could use it to reward those super-delegates pledging to him?

Oh wait. oth of those have already been done... by Hillary's campaign.

[larkrake]

19. The party has morphed away from democracy-why should Bernie support corporatism?

You have vision Rev

[upaloopa]

30. I contribute to the victory fund and to Hillary's campaign as well as

Ready for Hillary in 2014.

All the money I have given will be spent fighting the right wing and making progressive change more likely.

So the stones you through at me and other Hillary supporters are misguided at best.

We are giving our hard earned dollars to better the lives of all of us.

Our money goes not only to Hillary but to Senate and House Dems and to state Dem parties.

[revbones]

35. You may want to re-examine where your money is going then...

You said "All the money I have given will be spent fighting the right wing". I don't think that's the case... And you didn't really dispute anything. You kinda just said the equivalent of "I like sandwiches" but then sprinkled some fantasy beliefs on top.

[upaloopa]

44. No thanks.

There is nothing any of us can learn from you that is of any use

[revbones]

46. Did I try to educate you?

There is no waking up to facts for most Hillary followers anyway. I just suggested you follow the money and see where it's actually going rather than what you stated you believe. Your choice to waste your money if you want.

[upaloopa]

48. You have been posting your opinion for months here for some reason

I think I can say that for us Hillary supporters you have nothing of value to offer.

In the months ahead this board will be supporting Hillary in the general. What you posted will be forgotten.

[revbones]

50. And I'm sure many Bernie supporters

feel that you don't have much to offer either.

And given the value you have provided, I think regardless of whether Bernie or Hillary is the nominee, what you posted will be forgotten.

[FarPoint]

56. I agree with you 100%.

Nothing productive ever posted ...

[geek tragedy]

2. "other Democrats?" he's not a Democrat nt

[LexVegas]

3. He's not a Democrat.nt

[Avalux]

5. So you won't vote for Bernie in the GE? n/t

[LexVegas]

12. Is he running 3rd party? nt

[Avalux]

15. I guess you'll stay home then. n/t

[FarPoint]

57. I perceive him more of a

Hitchhiker on the Democratic Party Bus.

[LexVegas]

22. ....

[leftynyc]

25. Really?

Since when are being pro choice, pro union, pro gay rights a republican position.

[leftynyc]

38. Answer my question

Since when are pro choice, pro gay rights, pro union republican positions? Not a hard question and you're the one that said she had republican positions. So back it up and list all the republicans that have those positions. Or just admit your post was hyperbolic bullshit and it's merely that she's not pure enough for you.

[redstateblues]

28. Stop the smears. Hillary was one of the most liberal Senators

In Congress. Hardly Republican. If she's a Republican why do the Republicans hate her so much? You can't have it both ways

[leftynyc]

41. They can't help themselves

It's not Bernie I object to - I'll vote for him easily if he's the nominee. It's some of his supporters that seemingly can't help the hyperbolic bullshit they post here day in and day out. They're tiresome and are only hurting their candidate.

[ThePhilosopher04]

55. It's "good cop, bad cop" relationship while the money changers and big corporations walk away

the loot. They don't hate each other, they just act like it.

[Cali_Democrat]

49. "true Democrat"

that seems a bit subjective.

[revbones]

21. Oh noes! Say it ain't so!!!!

That's kinda why many people support him. He's not your typical "Democrat" but what "Democrat" used to mean...

[Avalux]

4. Oh for the love of dog!!

Hillary Inc. can't stop with the hit pieces (and that includes Rachel "Hillary may I kiss your ring" Maddow).

[CalvinballPro]

11. Maddow has been all about Bernie this primary so far. At least, until before his campaign staff

implied that she was lying when she reported on all their campaign activity in the states they later claimed that they "didn't compete" in. If Maddow's being tougher on Bernie now than you like, maybe stop to acknowledge that people don't like being called liars, especially not by the campaigns of candidates they've been supportive towards.

Bernie and his campaign dug this hole for themselves.

[Avalux]

16. Go back to your voodoo kitchen and cook up something else. n/t

[beam me up scottie]

20. I hope they don't pay for these lame memes, they look like they were made in mom's basement.

[leftynyc]

26. I hadn't realized Rachel

is joining so many others who don't worship at the feet of Bernie under the bus. That bus is getting mighty empty.

[Avalux]

58. A good journalist worships NO ONE.

I don't know what bus you're talking about. When you work for a network with close ties to Hillary Inc., you do what they say.

[leftynyc]

60. And under the bus she goes

Any journalists on tv you haven't tossed under there?

[NowSam]

6. Your subject line is false

He didn't refuse to do anything. He said right now he is focusing on the nomination. Why must you turn it into something it isn't?

[k8conant]

7. I give to Bernie and to the DSCC and to the DCCC...

but not to the DNC since they're still plugging Hillary.

[CalvinballPro]

8. Bernie only helps himself. And by extension, Tad Devine's bank account and retirement fund.

[cosmicone]

9. He is not a democrat. He's a socialist. n/t

[larkrake]

13. It is the DNC's job to fund state elections

When one wins the nomination, then you can fund raise , not before. Bernie has to focus on the Juggernaut against him, and the DNC is behind all his hurdles. He will do best endorsing down ballot candidates after winning the nomination, or losing it. Most politicians are parasites and he probably knows which are deserving of support. The DNC will only support corporate friendly candidates, so why raise money for them?

[Bluenorthwest]

14. So 'Hill' claimed to 'raise funds for' the Party in 08 and 'gave' money to other Democrats but at

the end of the contest her campaign was in debt, so she gathered donations from others to pay those debts. So who actually gave money to other Democrats? Democratic donors. Who sort of brokered it? Hillary. And that's great that she can borrow money, give it to others then take donations to pay back what she 'gave'.

[beam me up scottie]

17. I see today's talking points have been issued.

The meme generator must be in overdrive.

[mariawr]

24. We use ActBlue, not DNC. I haven't given them the time of day lately. nt

[hrmjustin]

27. Sanders is selfish!

It is all about him and not about the party. Tells me all I need to know about him.

[beam me up scottie]

31. Yeah just look at all the millions he took from special interests!

Oh wait, that was someone else.

Bernie was working his ass off for us while your candidate was padding her bank account.

Spare me the partisan bullshit, one candidate is known for being selfish and it isn't Bernie.

[uponit7771]

36. Sanders has taken money from Wall Street after lobbying for it, only folk who believe birds landing

... on podiums would mean anything don't see his words as hypocritical.

[beam me up scottie]

37. Where's the link showing he lobbied for Wall Street? Tia!

And he raised money for DEMOCRATS at a fund raiser, he didn't get rich off from them like your candidate did.

Lying by omission is still lying.

[uponit7771]

40. Strawman, never said he lobbied for Walls Street... nice try though

[beam me up scottie]

42. "Sanders has taken money from Wall Street after lobbying for it"

Perhaps you should stop obsessing about the bird and posting word salad.

[uponit7771]

43. .. =! Sanders lobbied "FOR" Wall Street.... Typical BMUS, nice try though

[Orsino]

29. By taking and redistributing tainted money. I would hope not. n/t

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[Cryptoad]

51. Love the Logic

if ur opponent take a little more money from the Devil than u, it makes u the Pure one!

[Orsino]

54. But especially if one's opponent takes mountains of the money one won't touch.

It's one of the themes of Sanders' campaign.

[Sunlei]

32. His focus now should be "win the nomination".

[yourpaljoey]

33. Maddow the traitor, how sad

[PotatoChip]

39. She's been fundraising harder because

she has to keep her super-delegates on board in states that voted overwhelmingly for her opponent (just in case she ultimately loses the pledged delegate count). Those super delegates will probably (deservedly) face some criticism if Bernie manages to win the pledged delegate vote by convention time and yet they still deny him the win.

If they go against the people's wishes like that, they know they won't enjoy the extra scrutiny, so they're likely going to want even more compensation. Probably, for their own candidates and pet projects.

[randome]

45. So all the super-delegates are on the payroll now? In every state?

Extraordinary claims require...something.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
Leonard Cohen, Anthem (1992)[/center][/font][hr]

[PotatoChip]

47. I never claimed that "they are on the payroll".

Please do not put words in my mouth.

[randome]

53. Well, how is she 'keeping them on board' if not with cash?

That's what the OP is about. Is she promising them money in the future, then? If money's not part of the mix, then sure, Clinton has more clout than Sanders. She worked to get there and not everything she does is part of some nefarious plan to deprive us of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness -as some seem to think. Not trying to put words in your mouth.

But what has Sanders done with or without money? Has he ever shown an interest in any other candidacy than his own? I'm genuinely curious about that.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
Leonard Cohen, Anthem (1992)[/center][/font][hr]

[Freddie Stubbs]

52. Not surprising, as he is not a Democrat himself

[pat_k]

59. Plenty of time to promote worthy congressional Dems going into GE

My focus is on using my money to get Bernie nominated. I'm in a position I'm sure many of his supporters are -- finding the cash to donate is a bit of a stretch. I'll be looking for for Congressional candidates worthy of support after the convention.