Bernie has a FINITE amount of money each month to use for his campaign.

[Skwmom]

Though I realize that Ms. Selective Outrage (aka Clinton's cheerleader) REFUSES to recognize that fact.

I give money to Bernie to be used on HIS campaign for President, not to support corporate Democrats who work against the good of the people.

And Bernie, unlike Clinton and Trump, isn't provided with millions in free advertising and advocacy by the corporate media.

[Renew Deal]

1. Why are you so wound up today?

What happened?

[rhett o rick]

15. Gold Star for the first response in under one minute. Too bad you wasted it. nm

[snooper2]

2. LOL

[Skwmom]

7. Funny how corporate and billionaire welfare is NEVER called free stuff. But then again they do pay

for it don't they.

[snooper2]

9. lighten up francis, enjoy a meme now and then :)

how about this-

[angrychair]

32. I'm sure there is a reason

Memes like this can really make people look like assholes. I'm sure that isn't what you are trying to do. DU members have their differences but we have the same long-term goals and I feel you would never want anyone to think your a divisive asshole.
People may take your light-hearted, "all in fun" memes as you being a jerk but I am sure that is the wrong impression, I would never say you were a divisive asshole but just be prepared some may not like you posts and either think or say your an asshole, I would not say that as I am fair-minded but others might think your asshole so just be prepared for the unkind comments that may accompany posts like this. Thanks and all the best wishes I can muster!

[snooper2]

36. Hey, if everyone stops arguing and focuses on me- Then it is a WIN WIN ROFL

How about this one-

[Armstead]

8. Looks like a Consrvative Republican Meme to me

Then Right Wingers love at attack democrats and Liberals for promising "free stuff."

Rush and Sean would be proud of you.

[snooper2]

14. .

[beam me up scottie]

24. It is a right wing meme. Funny how Hillary supporters have so much in common with them.

They're sounding more like Trump every day.

[arcane1]

39. Right-wing memes are the only thing the Clinton Crew has left.

[rhett o rick]

20. No just cut the defense budget 0.01% and pay for it all. With Clinton we will

undoubtedly see another war and have to boost the defense budget.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

27. This is right wing nonsense, liberals dont do what you are doing.

Yes, many Bernie supporters have been INSUFFERABLE and driven many others out of their minds,

HOWEVER

what you are doing is wrong and I think you know it.

[snooper2]

33. GD-P is just a little uptight LOL

squirrel says knock it off

[Jackie Wilson Said]

34. I assume you are a true blue Democrat, liberal. Why do you do this?

Just because the other guys endlessly attack Hillary using right wing garbage, doesn't mean you have to do the same to Bernie.

[revbones]

3. Not just that.

But she has her super-PACs, and unlimited withdrawals from the Hillary Victory Fund which is supposed to help downticket races, but would seem to just be a reward for super-delegates if they ever got any of it...

[dana_b]

4. thank you!!

Me too. I give $25/month plus a few extra bucks when he needs some for a big puch. I want that $$ to help HIM win!! Not give it away to the damn Democratic party!!

[upaloopa]

5. Can you picture Bernie in the White House and a Congress of Dems

he has refused to support?

Do you know that Bernie will no longer be in the position to write bills?

Do you understand who produces the things you want Bernie to get done?

You should not cut off your nose to spite your face.

[Armstead]

10. Maybe they ought to be more supportive of HIM and his agenda

If Democrats in Congress would pull their collective noses out of the Corporate Lobbyist Trough, there might be more room for mutual cooperation to benefit the majority of the American People.

[upaloopa]

16. He is not going to be president. The sooner you get that the better for all of us

[Jackie Wilson Said]

28. Probably, but this right wing meme about free stuff has to stop.

Liberals dont use that kind of rhetoric.

Nothing free about universal healthcare, we would all be paying for it, same with education.

grr

[Viva_La_Revolution]

13. 2018 midterms

If they don't get on the bandwagon then we vote them out

[upaloopa]

19. yea sure, we really turn out the votes on off year elections!

[notadmblnd]

53. See, this is a fine example of why many don't support Hillary

This defeatist attitude she and her supporters exude. With the "no we cant's" or "it has to be small changes", or "we're being picked on" and the "yeah we really turn out the votes" type of comments such as you just made, it's a wonder that we're not all on medication for depression.

[upaloopa]

58. No it is pragmatism vs pie-in-the-skyism

If you are going to solve problems you have to first admit there is a problem

We don't vote in midterms that is the problem now we need a solution

Your way is "make a wish and dreams will come true"

[notadmblnd]

60. Look, I've been around the block enough times

to know wishes and dreams don't come true if I'm not willing to do something to make them manifest.


I often think people work harder at making excuses for not doing something- than the actual effort it would take to accomplish the thing that they're making excuses for not doing.


Your comment is just another pitiful excuse and example of the no we can't negative attitude of the HRC campaign.

[rhett o rick]

22. Be better than having Clinton in the WH signing all the bills the Republicons love. nm

[Orsino]

23. The ability of big money to purchase the loyalty of politicians...

...is one of the main problems Sanders is trying to fix.

Asking him to sell out just because the other candidates have is kinda dumb.

[marions ghost]

41. We have nothing they want except votes

They get the rest of what they want from us without asking.

[larkrake]

51. he can veto any bill that is shady and get alot done

Bernie wont fold to repubs, he will negotiate but not swallow poison pills. McConnell and Ryan both know they cant steamroll Bernie.

[frylock]

61. Surely you're not suggesting that Democrats would obstruct a President Sanders..

because he didn't kick any money their way, are you?

[upaloopa]

62. I could see that happening. It depends on what the issue is

Dems today are not going to trash the ACA because Bernie wants single payer.

[frylock]

66. Oh, I could see it happening as well.

And that is why membership to your precious Party is waning.

[redstateblues]

6. The media loves a horse race.

They give Bernie tons of coverage. They care about ratings and money.

[BernieforPres2016]

11. If Bernie was to ever give any of his campaign's money to the DNC or any corporatist Democrat

I would email the campaign and ask for my money back.

But I know Bernie has too much integrity to do it. That's why he was momentarily confused by Maddow's bullshit question.

[PonyUp]

12. Same here! Bernie needs to spend every dime we send him. I don't want mine going to the DNC either

[NCjack]

59. I give my donations to Bernie for him to spend getting elected president. I don't want him giving

money to the DNC to sponsor candidates DWS favors. I give money to down-ticket candidates that I like. And, I like the ones that say they like Bernie, which means they will get nothing from the DNC.

[Karma13612]

64. Good point.

If there was a way to track what Bernie supporters are donating to down ticket races, it might shut up the ones pointing fingers about not supporting the DNC.

What's more important, supporting the DNC (Third Way Cult), or candidates who want to help the 99%??

[randome]

17. What about using that all-important 'bully pulpit' that we were told would force Congress to work?

Has he ever endorsed anyone else?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
Leonard Cohen, Anthem (1992)[/center][/font][hr]

[Orsino]

18. Clinton can shovel money toward other Dems...

...but Bernie is trying to save their souls. That's traditionally not lucrative, and Sanders' operation is on a relative shoestring.

The attempt to paint the candidate NOT in bed with Wall Street as somehow miserly is ludicrous.

[randome]

21. I think it's more a question of whether or not he is a team player. Evidence suggests not.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
Leonard Cohen, Anthem (1992)[/center][/font][hr]

[Orsino]

25. Since we know the game is rigged, that is exactly the point.

He hasn't been bought, and can't afford to buy others.

[randome]

29. 'Team player' means supporting other candidates. Endorsing them. Encouraging them.

Has he ever done any of this?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
Leonard Cohen, Anthem (1992)[/center][/font][hr]

[Orsino]

43. That's not what the OP was about, but okay.

Bernie Sanders has chosen to endorse US, rather than downslate politicians. I'm okay with this, though I can understand a voter preferring more visible patronage. That certainly is the usual way of things.

[larkrake]

52. yes

he endorsed Warren among others but he wont endorse crooks and liars or the fungus that rules the DNC

[rhett o rick]

26. Evidence that you don't seem to have. Clinton is certanly a team player. The Republicons

will love her. Free Trade, domestic spying, the Patriot Act, fracking for profits, Prisons For Profits, College Loans for Profits, cutting safety nets. I bet she would sign away Social Security and claim the Republicons made her. Like they made her support the killings in Iraq for profits.

[randome]

30. I'm asking for evidence of Sanders' teamwork.

Has he ever endorsed anyone? Mentored another candidate? Even offered words of encouragement?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
Leonard Cohen, Anthem (1992)[/center][/font][hr]

[arcane1]

40. Another suddenly appearing made-up concern n/t

[rhett o rick]

55. It's your accusation to prove. nm

[mythology]

42. So the last 25 years has been one long con?

Because for the last 25 years Republicans have done nothing but tear her down.

[rhett o rick]

44. And that baffles you doesn't it? Notice that the Republicons don't tear her down

on her positions on issues, they love her stand on issues. They don't like tough women. But they will love having her sign all their legislation, whether they are willing to give her credit or not. But like William Clinton she will say that the Republicons forced her to do it.

[brooklynite]

31. The OP exhibits a complete lack of understanding of campaign finance laws...

...BOTH candidates have a "finite amount of money" to use for their campaigns. NEITHER candidate chooses to, OR IS ALLOWED TO give money to another campaign (except for a single nominal contribution of $5,000.)

What Clinton CHOOSES to do is use her clout and political attractiveness to raise money for other Party Committees or candidates through a Joint Funding Agreement. The contributor writes out a check which is divided BY PRIOR AGREEMENT between the Clinton Campaign and the other beneficiary. Effectively, he's making two seperate contributions with one payment.

You can choose to be outraged, but then you'll need to ask Senator Sanders why he's signed the same JFA's. He could pick whichever Party organizations or candidates he wanted jointly fundraise with. He's chosen to do nothing.

[randome]

35. Hm. We were arguing apples versus oranges when it was really strawberries all along.

Good info!
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
Leonard Cohen, Anthem (1992)[/center][/font][hr]

[marions ghost]

48. "I can't run no more with that lawless crowd"

"They've summoned up a thundercloud"

[randome]

49. "They're going to hear from me." Great song.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
Leonard Cohen, Anthem (1992)[/center][/font][hr]

[marions ghost]

50. Yep, and Bernie found the crack

that let's the light in....

Hillary came with a truckload of caulk.

[Skwmom]

37. Bernie has small dollar contributors which isn't conducive to this type of arrangement.

And why in the hell would his contributors want to contribute to a party that is doing everything they can to rig the system for Clinton and that has no problem with funding corporate Democrats that would work against the interests of those working class contributors?

Answer. They would not.

[brooklynite]

38. So, you're saying there is NO CANDIDATE and NO PARTY COMMITTEE that supports his vision?

Perhaps that says something about his prospects as a President?

[rhett o rick]

46. Or maybe is says something about the culture corrupted by Big Money that you used to

shout out against. Now it helps your candidate, all's fair. The Ends Justify the Means to the Clinton campaign.

[rhett o rick]

45. So who controls the money raised by the super-pacs? nm

[brooklynite]

47. SuperPACs have no relationship to joint-fundraising....

Sanders could challenge them by advocating for more direct funding of like-minded candidates by his supporters.

[rhett o rick]

54. Are you saying that all super pac money can only be used to support one candidate? nm

[brooklynite]

57. I''m saying the OP is trying to explain why Sanders can't be bothered to fundraise for anyone else

[rhett o rick]

65. And I am saying that super-pac money is used to buy super-delegate support. nm

[grntuscarora]

56. A big, fat K & R.

I give to down ticket Democrats and a few Independents. But I prefer choosing myself to having Ms. SO choose for me.

[Bern2WinUSA]

63. Thank YOU!

Just donated $60 today. Keep on keepin' on... This nation was NOT built on 'No We Can't' it was built on YES, We Will!!

Great Post!