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jillan

(39,451 posts)
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:18 PM Mar 2016

Why is she always snippy? If they really were Bernie supporters why couldn't she just say

We welcome you, please sit down & join us and listen to what my plans are if I win the Presidency?

But no - she had to scold them.
Told them to leave.
She had to say I have more votes, so nannynanny poopoo
I I I I I have experience.
You never listen.

Was this really any different than how she handled the BLM activist that paid to go to her fundraiser?
Or the woman that asked her a question at a coffee shop?

Nope it wasn't. Every time Hillary is confronted with an opposing viewpoint, instead of welcoming them she turns on the snark.

One of the things I loved about Candidate Obama in 2008 is when he was confronted with a protester or an opposing viewpoint, he always listened and let them talk. He would then answer their concerns....even when that question came from Joe Plumber.

I don't know if they were Bernie supporters (it's just hearsay) or if they were Trump supporters. It doesn't matter. Being condescending to people does not earn you votes.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc-quick-cuts/watch/sanders-supporters-interrupt-clinton-event-655915075535

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Why is she always snippy? If they really were Bernie supporters why couldn't she just say (Original Post) jillan Mar 2016 OP
This is why it is ironic that she would ever talk about "tone" astrophuss42 Mar 2016 #1
oh god please no grasswire Mar 2016 #60
'Being condescending to people does not earn you votes.' elleng Mar 2016 #2
Because Hillary is a "Mean Girl" notadmblnd Mar 2016 #3
no, she's a strong woman, and some people don't like that geek tragedy Mar 2016 #19
Simple answer: She's an asshole n/t arcane1 Mar 2016 #4
because she's not a nice person dana_b Mar 2016 #5
Sometimes... asuhornets Mar 2016 #6
And you just one-upped her on snottiness and arrogance nichomachus Mar 2016 #33
yes, she should just bow and smile and act geek tragedy Mar 2016 #59
More Clinton silliness nichomachus Mar 2016 #61
I like someone who won't take nonsense geek tragedy Mar 2016 #67
LOL! rock Mar 2016 #85
That is correct. Lil Missy Mar 2016 #88
They were there to disrupt - they deserve to get thrown out. n/t Lil Missy Mar 2016 #7
Into the bog of eternal stench with you. nt thereismore Mar 2016 #72
they heckled and then they walked out by themselves. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #8
Alway looking for the poutrage. Lil Missy Mar 2016 #10
It's amazing, they heckle and insult and then whine geek tragedy Mar 2016 #13
You didn't answer my question - why didn't she invite them to stay & tell them she'd like to be jillan Mar 2016 #14
Because she doesn't take shit from assholes who get in her face, whether geek tragedy Mar 2016 #17
WoW!!! You Sound Exactly Like A Trump Supporter And How They Would React To Trump's Handling.... global1 Mar 2016 #32
It is very similar to how Trump handles hecklers, minus the violence. jillan Mar 2016 #53
"minus the violence" Other than that, Mrs, Lincoln, how geek tragedy Mar 2016 #56
Classless and graceless loyalsister Mar 2016 #78
OFFS. Trump calls for people to get beaten up. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #55
I agree. She is a fighter. bvar22 Mar 2016 #79
Odd Lazy Daisy Mar 2016 #37
it was either walk out or get thrown out nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #44
Most wait to be thrown out Lazy Daisy Mar 2016 #70
apparently they could dish it out but weren't tough geek tragedy Mar 2016 #71
could be. doubt it very much, but could be Lazy Daisy Mar 2016 #80
Thank you for linking to an actual account of what happened. yardwork Mar 2016 #89
at any given time, I fully expect her to start using the royal "we" Hiraeth Mar 2016 #9
She IMMEDIATELY calls them 'Bernie People'? Smell that? It's The Reincarnation of Lee Atwater: Brock AzDar Mar 2016 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author RKP5637 Mar 2016 #73
ha ha. Perhaps they had Bernie shirts or signs. Do you know. You just know faux outrage riversedge Mar 2016 #77
So... you don't know, either? Got it. Odd that you would 'answer', then...or, perhaps not. AzDar Mar 2016 #92
My first thought was that they were environmental activists riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #91
Immediate scolding of "Bernie people" marions ghost Mar 2016 #12
She did say that she wished they would stay. all american girl Mar 2016 #66
That appeared to be an after thought marions ghost Mar 2016 #86
God is she off-putting. Did anyone verify they were Bernie supporters? Skwmom Mar 2016 #15
They were not there for a cause... fun n serious Mar 2016 #16
Bernie had protesters ARRESTED fun n serious Mar 2016 #24
1999 Gwhittey Mar 2016 #84
An article from 1991?? Please. lob1 Mar 2016 #87
They were paid? Wow - that's interesting. How do you know that? jillan Mar 2016 #25
that's what Trump says about protestors at his rallies grasswire Mar 2016 #68
Wow, that's a leap. Amaril Mar 2016 #54
Careful - they'll call you sexist here..... laruemtt Mar 2016 #18
I just posted this video. Very snappy NWCorona Mar 2016 #20
Holy shit! When was that? nt bunnies Mar 2016 #36
It was posted today but I'd like to know when it was filmed too! NWCorona Mar 2016 #46
I cant believe she got in that womans face like that. bunnies Mar 2016 #52
Thanks for posting. SamKnause Mar 2016 #38
Yep Lazy Daisy Mar 2016 #63
Didn't sound like something you respond to. Can anyone tell me what they were saying? Sounded like Hoyt Mar 2016 #21
they chanted "if she wins, we lose" and then walked out by themselves geek tragedy Mar 2016 #22
Thanks. Thought it sounded childish. Hoyt Mar 2016 #27
par for the course, must have lost their Twitter accounts nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #29
She was asking if Clinton was still taking money from fossil fuel donors Gwhittey Mar 2016 #83
The point of the confrontation was to make Bernie supporters look bad... RufusTFirefly Mar 2016 #23
Lol, so you're in the "false flag" camp? nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #26
It's a pretty big camp. Hillary's campaign has been getting more Rovian by the day. nt. nichomachus Mar 2016 #40
Most here, especially those doing the most criticism of either candidate Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #28
Guess she's taking lessons from Trump. So glad I switched from D to I. Just one more reason. n/t RKP5637 Mar 2016 #30
I want to say that in the op but bit my tongue. It's really quite sore now. jillan Mar 2016 #43
... RKP5637 Mar 2016 #57
43% of this country are Independents/Unaffiliated. Neither the R's nor D's are the majority, and RKP5637 Mar 2016 #65
It's All About Her... Herman4747 Mar 2016 #31
What was she supposed to do? Concede the race right there? KingFlorez Mar 2016 #34
You seem perilously close to lecturing her about tone Prism Mar 2016 #35
Sexist? Asking why she didn't invite them to stay rather than scolding them is sexist? What does jillan Mar 2016 #47
I should use a sarcasm tag sometimes =) Prism Mar 2016 #49
that poster likes to scold Hillary Clinton for smiling too much. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #51
This nation is out of control and needs healing, not more division! HRC is alienating an awful lot RKP5637 Mar 2016 #39
" about 20 Sanders supporters shouted, "If she wins, we lose," and began walking out." They did riversedge Mar 2016 #69
The best part is she did not use violence like Trump, and that I respect her for. n/t RKP5637 Mar 2016 #76
I voted for Bernie in the primary, but I will have no difficulty voting for Hillary in the GE if she RKP5637 Mar 2016 #90
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #41
Sure, because Sanders is so conciliatory. Beacool Mar 2016 #42
Unlike Sanders MFM008 Mar 2016 #45
And she is 69 which is also no youngster. But whatever. jillan Mar 2016 #50
Go back to your voodoo kitchen and cook up something else. n/t Avalux Mar 2016 #58
Hillary is 69,has had a brain injury from a sub-dural hematoma,overweight ,and wendylaroux Mar 2016 #81
wow, so your ageist attack gets a pass dana_b Mar 2016 #82
I may even donate because of this. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #48
Great, do it nichomachus Mar 2016 #64
Bernie will be appreciative of your donation! grasswire Mar 2016 #74
Hillary did not scold them. Your OP is condensing. riversedge Mar 2016 #62
Haven't you heard? lumberjack_jeff Mar 2016 #75

astrophuss42

(290 posts)
1. This is why it is ironic that she would ever talk about "tone"
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:20 PM
Mar 2016

I don't want this in my living room for 4 years.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
60. oh god please no
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:55 PM
Mar 2016

aggghhhhhhh

Tweety had a funny line when he mocked the "tone" remark -- he said it sounded like a nun school teacher.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
19. no, she's a strong woman, and some people don't like that
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:34 PM
Mar 2016

she doesn't sit there and take abuse.

Don't pick a fight with her unless you want a fight.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
5. because she's not a nice person
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:23 PM
Mar 2016

and her first instinct is to snip and be MORE nasty than they are.

Remember when Bernie was interrupted by the BLM protestors? He stopped and let them speak.
I'm not saying that she needed to do that, but what you suggested would have been a great response.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
33. And you just one-upped her on snottiness and arrogance
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:43 PM
Mar 2016

Her supporters are doing her no favors. If this is going to be the "tone" of a Clinton presidency, count me out. The whole thing is very Trump-like

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
61. More Clinton silliness
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:55 PM
Mar 2016

There are a whole range of responses between what she did and what you suggest.

One of her major accomplishments -- at least according to the Hillary gang -- is that in addition to being married to Bill Clinton, she served for a couple of years as a diplomat.

A diplomat is supposed to be able to respond to things like this without getting catty. She apparently failed in that aspect of diplomacy as she did in so many others.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
8. they heckled and then they walked out by themselves.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:24 PM
Mar 2016

Jeebus, the victim complex with some people.

http://abc7ny.com/politics/hillary-clinton-faces-disruptive-bernie-sanders-supporters-in-new-york/1270432/

NEW YORK --
Hillary Clinton was giving a spirited defense of her campaign proposals and her lead in the Democratic primaries when she was disrupted by a group of Bernie Sanders supporters ahead of her home state's primary.

A few minutes into Clinton's remarks on the campus of Purchase College, about 20 Sanders supporters shouted, "If she wins, we lose," and began walking out.


They heckled her and walked out, and yet you find a way to make her the bad guy.

Clinical.


 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
13. It's amazing, they heckle and insult and then whine
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:26 PM
Mar 2016

when they aren't treated like royalty in return

jillan

(39,451 posts)
14. You didn't answer my question - why didn't she invite them to stay & tell them she'd like to be
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:26 PM
Mar 2016

given the opportunity to earn their vote instead of yelling at them?

Instead of yelling at the young girl in the coffee shop? Or the BLM activist?

You attract more bees with honey.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
17. Because she doesn't take shit from assholes who get in her face, whether
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:31 PM
Mar 2016

those assholes are Bernie hecklers or the House Benghazi Committee.

She is not Obama. She does not say "gee let's all get along."

She says "You tell me to go to hell? I tell you to go to hell."

She is a fighter.

She's not willing to be anyone's punching bag.

If someone picks a fight with her, they'll get a fight, not a hug.

global1

(25,241 posts)
32. WoW!!! You Sound Exactly Like A Trump Supporter And How They Would React To Trump's Handling....
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:42 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary's reaction to this outburst was handled exactly like Trump would handle it.

He's a fighter. He's not willing to be anyone's punching bag. If someone picks a fight with him, they'll get a fight and not a hug.

I'm surprised you condone this - because if this happened at a Trump rally - you would probably be criticizing Trump and his method of handling it.

Or maybe you'll just vote for Trump if Bernie becomes the Dem nominee - because you admire that type of conduct.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
78. Classless and graceless
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:04 PM
Mar 2016

I have always respected Obama's "I love you back" confidence. Hillary's defensiveness and confrontational style would be a very unfortunate shift.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
55. OFFS. Trump calls for people to get beaten up.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:50 PM
Mar 2016

Clinton talked about how many votes she had received.

Get a grip.



bvar22

(39,909 posts)
79. I agree. She is a fighter.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:06 PM
Mar 2016

Look what she did to Iraq, Libya, Honduras, Syria, etc.
The hallmark of a true LEADER is one who is able to use the velvet glove.
Hillary doesn't have one of those, and there is nowhere to BUY one.
It is a matter of character.
If you don't have it, you never will.

 

Lazy Daisy

(928 posts)
37. Odd
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:44 PM
Mar 2016

Since when do protesters only there to disrupt say something once and walk out? Seems a little odd.

 

Lazy Daisy

(928 posts)
70. Most wait to be thrown out
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:59 PM
Mar 2016

Most chant until they are thrown out. I just find this odd. They chant once and then Hillary spills her practiced response? Weird.

 

Lazy Daisy

(928 posts)
80. could be. doubt it very much, but could be
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:07 PM
Mar 2016

Here's a question. Where's the video taken by the protesters? They usually video themselves, you know "bragging rights" to fellow protesters. Usually gets posted on youtube. Anybody seen that yet? Or do we just have the video from the Hillary campaign?
The one showing her immediately giving her snappy little comeback, cause you know, she's sooooo tough.

 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
11. She IMMEDIATELY calls them 'Bernie People'? Smell that? It's The Reincarnation of Lee Atwater: Brock
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:25 PM
Mar 2016

Response to AzDar (Reply #11)

riversedge

(70,187 posts)
77. ha ha. Perhaps they had Bernie shirts or signs. Do you know. You just know faux outrage
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:04 PM
Mar 2016

And name-dropping..



NEW YORK --
Hillary Clinton was giving a spirited defense of her campaign proposals and her lead in the Democratic primaries when she was disrupted by a group of Bernie Sanders supporters ahead of her home state's primary.

A few minutes into Clinton's remarks on the campus of Purchase College, about 20 Sanders supporters shouted, "If she wins, we lose," and began walking out.


"The Bernie people came to say that," she said. "We're very sorry you're leaving."

http://abc7ny.com/politics/hillary-clinton-faces-disruptive-bernie-sanders-supporters-in-new-york/1270432/

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
91. My first thought was that they were environmental activists
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:17 PM
Mar 2016

Based on the chants.



Why would the automatic assumption be that they were Bernie supporters?

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
12. Immediate scolding of "Bernie people"
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:26 PM
Mar 2016

gloating retorts. Loving the photo-op.

This is not inner strength. This is pathetic.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
86. That appeared to be an after thought
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:18 PM
Mar 2016

after she did the knee jerk scolding and tongue-lashing.

It was a photo-op. Perfect for prime time.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
15. God is she off-putting. Did anyone verify they were Bernie supporters?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:31 PM
Mar 2016

Oh why did I ask that question? With our worthless media it is a useless question.

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
16. They were not there for a cause...
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:31 PM
Mar 2016

They're there for the money. They're PAID protesters so.... why have them stay?


Everything is my opinion only. IMHO. IMO. Etc, etc,

 

Lazy Daisy

(928 posts)
63. Yep
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:57 PM
Mar 2016

ANY candidate who responds this way needs to check themselves. An appropriate response would be to deny it, encourage the person accusing to research, and let them know they have been led astray by false information.


But not Hillary, she likes to scold, poke a finger. (almost touching)

You know, the same behavior Hillary supporters say Bernie exhibits and find disgusting.

It's good to be Queen, let the peons know where their place is.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
21. Didn't sound like something you respond to. Can anyone tell me what they were saying? Sounded like
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:35 PM
Mar 2016

the four year olds that live across the street skipping rope. But, maybe someone can tell me what they yelled, and I'll change my mind.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
22. they chanted "if she wins, we lose" and then walked out by themselves
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:36 PM
Mar 2016

It's as if people are discovering that Hillary Clinton doesn't back down from a fight.

 

Gwhittey

(1,377 posts)
83. She was asking if Clinton was still taking money from fossil fuel donors
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:12 PM
Mar 2016

A valid question as she has taken money from donors who own fossil fuel companies. You would have to go look up names but Goldman Sachs does own some. And this person was not a Sanders support but a Green Peace member, no way for Clinton to know but she had to spin it and be rude to this girl.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
23. The point of the confrontation was to make Bernie supporters look bad...
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:37 PM
Mar 2016

... and to portray Hillary as being above the fray.

It's a variation on the "change your tone" red herring.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
28. Most here, especially those doing the most criticism of either candidate
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:40 PM
Mar 2016

wouldnt last a week in her position or Bernie's

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
65. 43% of this country are Independents/Unaffiliated. Neither the R's nor D's are the majority, and
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:57 PM
Mar 2016

it's dividing more and more. She had best work on being more inclusive than alienating those that would vote for her. IMO that was an utterly stupid move on her part.

 

Herman4747

(1,825 posts)
31. It's All About Her...
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:42 PM
Mar 2016
Even the theme she came up with: "I'm with her"

So naturally one of the first things she says: "I got 2.5 million more votes than Bernie, etc."

Bernie would be more inclined to emphasize the success of the campaign team, should he win a state.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
34. What was she supposed to do? Concede the race right there?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:43 PM
Mar 2016

I swear, anything less than Clinton allowing herself to be dragged off staged and kicked by hecklers is considered to be unfair and snippy.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
35. You seem perilously close to lecturing her about tone
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:44 PM
Mar 2016

Which is sexist!

Uhm, unless it's Bernie Sanders. Then, ok.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
47. Sexist? Asking why she didn't invite them to stay rather than scolding them is sexist? What does
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:48 PM
Mar 2016

that even have to do with sexism?

When people say Bernie yells too much should I start calling it anti-semitism? of course not.
That would be just as silly.

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
39. This nation is out of control and needs healing, not more division! HRC is alienating an awful lot
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:44 PM
Mar 2016

of people.

riversedge

(70,187 posts)
69. " about 20 Sanders supporters shouted, "If she wins, we lose," and began walking out." They did
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:59 PM
Mar 2016

the shouting and then walked out. They were there to disrupt. Simple as that.

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
90. I voted for Bernie in the primary, but I will have no difficulty voting for Hillary in the GE if she
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:56 PM
Mar 2016

is the nominee. We must have a Democrat in the WH 2016.

Response to jillan (Original post)

MFM008

(19,805 posts)
45. Unlike Sanders
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:47 PM
Mar 2016

Who walks out of interviews, yells like the old guy telling kids to get off his lawn. Gets red faced and rude. Come on, the guy needs a nap and his meds. Hes 75 years old. geez.

wendylaroux

(2,925 posts)
81. Hillary is 69,has had a brain injury from a sub-dural hematoma,overweight ,and
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:10 PM
Mar 2016

can't control her anger for shit.Bernie is in better shape than her.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
82. wow, so your ageist attack gets a pass
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:10 PM
Mar 2016

I should be surprised but I'm not.

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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
48. I may even donate because of this.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:48 PM
Mar 2016

About time someone gave Team Vitriol a little taste of their own medicine.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
64. Great, do it
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:57 PM
Mar 2016

She'll put your $5 right next to the $500,000,000 she got from corporatists. That will buy you a photo of the Lincoln bedroom, not a stay in it, if you enclose a self-addressed, stamped envelope.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
74. Bernie will be appreciative of your donation!
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:01 PM
Mar 2016

He's shooting for another record-breaking month by midnight.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
75. Haven't you heard?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:01 PM
Mar 2016

Voters are a hindrance to an efficient system of governance. You don't want to win them so much as you just want them to go away so that money and media influence can work their magic.

Our superdelegates have this... don't worry your pretty heads.

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