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GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 12:50 AM Apr 2016

There are reports that Clinton Campaign must be terrified in New York...An emergency meeting called

https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4djd7w/wisconsin_results_mega_thread/d1rrcwa

According to this post:

Apparently there is real concern and tension within the Clinton camp. I have a friend who interns for the campaign, and she texted me saying that there is an emergency meeting planned immediately.
The internal data for both campaigns must be showing a tighter race that expected in New York. Let's keep fighting like hell!


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There are reports that Clinton Campaign must be terrified in New York...An emergency meeting called (Original Post) GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 OP
... CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2016 #1
... senz Apr 2016 #19
This is final stand time for Team Hill Hydra Apr 2016 #2
Hillary didn't even call it quits against Obama. People were begging her. delrem Apr 2016 #9
Oh, I don't think for a minute they'd actually fold up and go home Hydra Apr 2016 #11
Sanders has to continue the sweep. Period. delrem Apr 2016 #13
Yep, beedle Apr 2016 #47
Yep, if she loses this one... GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #10
And if Bernie loses, we won't get another chance. n/t woodsprite Apr 2016 #14
Of course you will if you are young enough. Bernie is laying the foundation for Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #27
Climate change won't wait 8 more years Hydra Apr 2016 #59
This...so very, very THIS. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #50
He needs more security detail. glinda Apr 2016 #48
crumbling down Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #3
knr amborin Apr 2016 #4
New York is do or die for camp weathervane Red Oak Apr 2016 #5
How many home states does she have? lol nt GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #8
reddit? Cali_Democrat Apr 2016 #6
Here comes the big vetting that we've all been warned about! CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #7
wasn't there a movie like this? grasswire Apr 2016 #16
I'm kinda liking this "vetting", myself. delrem Apr 2016 #18
If this is correct nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #12
Reddit? TMontoya Apr 2016 #15
Some advice from a Berniebot - smearing the messenger doesn't really work here, we don't djean111 Apr 2016 #30
Some advice from a dispassionate observer: OilemFirchen Apr 2016 #41
So what? djean111 Apr 2016 #44
Okay, I will. OilemFirchen Apr 2016 #45
But ya can't sell Hillary to them. So there's that to say for them. djean111 Apr 2016 #46
The best research and discussion on the Panama Papers is on Reddit. glinda Apr 2016 #49
And the worst. OilemFirchen Apr 2016 #52
*pffft glinda Apr 2016 #61
We repeat, OWS started here, The Working Famlies Party, 7wo7rees Apr 2016 #17
She's loved to the tune of $160million paid directly to her families' private account. delrem Apr 2016 #20
The Fracktivists are already in camp Bernie Mnpaul Apr 2016 #43
Don't forget DU's H2O!!! 7wo7rees Apr 2016 #54
... Change has come Apr 2016 #21
If Hillary loses New York by even one vote, it will change everything. Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #22
I'm sure it's just Hillary giving the interns a little pep talk ... Scuba Apr 2016 #23
Is that a real picture? I have seen SO many that make me wonder what is wrong with her? stillwaiting Apr 2016 #25
Have you seen one of her lying sprees, I mean campaign speeches? She looks just like that only in Zira Apr 2016 #32
About the suit. .. I can say this because I'm her age. libdem4life Apr 2016 #35
Okay, I see then. I just thought she had profoundly bad taste. Zira Apr 2016 #37
Agree...she would look better with a scarf. I've given in to it, libdem4life Apr 2016 #38
I believe the style is just good for Karma13612 Apr 2016 #56
Good point. Bet she is wearing one. Zira Apr 2016 #62
Classy....... Beacool Apr 2016 #39
Yikes. SixString Apr 2016 #53
The race was "tight" in Iowa, now Sanders is running away with it. GreatGazoo Apr 2016 #24
Custers last stand!! haikugal Apr 2016 #26
DELEGATE COUNT MFM008 Apr 2016 #28
Well if REDDIT says so... brooklynite Apr 2016 #29
Grifter paradise. OilemFirchen Apr 2016 #42
"poisoning the well" Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #51
They should be scared. Wall Street is a dangerous street. I hear they jump people and Zira Apr 2016 #31
Would that be a carpet bag? Sorry! Karma13612 Apr 2016 #57
... 99Forever Apr 2016 #33
How could they be worried? Jarqui Apr 2016 #34
+1000000. Thank you for this. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2016 #58
If I had a dime for everyone who had a friend who overheard something... KingFlorez Apr 2016 #36
Really??? Beacool Apr 2016 #40
That must be one in-the-know intern!! Bleacher Creature Apr 2016 #55
that is why the new talking points are out restorefreedom Apr 2016 #60

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
2. This is final stand time for Team Hill
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:00 AM
Apr 2016

I expect it to get REALLY ugly(not that it hasn't been), because if they lose this, they may as well go home afterward.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
9. Hillary didn't even call it quits against Obama. People were begging her.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:18 AM
Apr 2016

Saying that she was tearing down the party with her insane negativity.
My lord, she even invoked the possibility that Obama would be assassinated, as a reason for staying in the race and pushing her negativity.
She isn't paid to quit.

In this case, she's winning. What in the world would make anyone think that she'd quit and go home?
Believe it, she'll pull off EVERY dirty trick right to the last moment, to win.
Then, if she wins the Dem primary, the Dems will lose to the Republicans.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
11. Oh, I don't think for a minute they'd actually fold up and go home
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:21 AM
Apr 2016

But if they lose NY, there's nothing they can do at that point that would salvage her campaign. The final battle snuck up on them.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
13. Sanders has to continue the sweep. Period.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:31 AM
Apr 2016

He has to wipe Hillary Clinton out in California.

It's a long road still ahead but I think he will do it.
But he will NEVER be in the front runner delegate-wise/establishment-wise/MSM-wise that HRC has been in from the start. He'll have to take it right to the very end and she will NEVER drop out. NEVER. Perhaps not even after California clinches elected delegates to be in favor of Sanders.

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
47. Yep,
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 08:33 PM
Apr 2016

Other than sudden health issue (hope not,) or this Panama Papers leak did actually expose something (wouldn't be surprised,) she's not going to drop out anytime soon, even if she loses NY.

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
10. Yep, if she loses this one...
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:19 AM
Apr 2016

She won't get another chance. And she'll go down in history as a lameduck candidate.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
27. Of course you will if you are young enough. Bernie is laying the foundation for
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 04:26 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie part 2, someone younger who will take the reins.

People have heard the ideas now, they arent going to forget them.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
7. Here comes the big vetting that we've all been warned about!
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:10 AM
Apr 2016

So excited!

Can't wait for these big-gun attacks to come bounding out of the Clinton camp.

Then finally, when these attacks are nothing but bullshit and Brock's bizarre talking points--we can all finally agree that Bernie has been vetted and that there is no "there" there.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
16. wasn't there a movie like this?
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:40 AM
Apr 2016

Don Knotts and Tim Conway?

The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight?

something like that.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
18. I'm kinda liking this "vetting", myself.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:58 AM
Apr 2016

I think Sanders is already on top of it.

He had it correct from the beginning: focus exclusively on issues, on the issues that should be set in stone. Like single payer universal health care. Like a sane, progressive interaction with the world, with fair trade policies that protect worker's rights, the environment, and protect the right of democratic governments to negotiate universally, for all the people, fair prices for pharmaceuticals. Like the right to an education fit for the times. The right to child care and paid maternity leave. All of these are no-brainers, and by focusing on these he is winning.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
30. Some advice from a Berniebot - smearing the messenger doesn't really work here, we don't
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 04:28 PM
Apr 2016

care what you think of Reddit. Redditors for Bernie have raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for him, phone-banked, gone door-to-door, coordinated GOTV. And if all you can add to a conversation is "lol", then a lot more people than me will have you on full ignore.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
44. So what?
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 08:18 PM
Apr 2016

My grandson is a redditor. He knows about current events before I do, and discusses them intelligently. Their Bernie for President sub-reddit is fantastic. I don't care who thought of it, doesn't negate the good they are doing.

That would be a really really extravagantly stupid thing to do, too - insulting 222,299 (at last count, 10000 or so online right now.) possible/probable voters. On second thought, please do that!

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
46. But ya can't sell Hillary to them. So there's that to say for them.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 08:28 PM
Apr 2016

Even redditors know that some redditors are stupid. All duers do not, um, respect each other.

7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
17. We repeat, OWS started here, The Working Famlies Party,
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:41 AM
Apr 2016

the "Fracktivists". Hill just might lose.

Possibly overestimated how much she is loved.

Quite possibly.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
20. She's loved to the tune of $160million paid directly to her families' private account.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 02:14 AM
Apr 2016

How can a politician overestimate that? That's a lot of love.

Then on top of that there's her Foundation, which establishes her and her family as philanthropists acting in the greatest tradition of private philanthropy. She's beloved by the House of Saud, who show their concern for humanity and especially the rights of women by contributing to the Clinton Foundation. This is not just charity, it is a kind of charity which serves the interests of the Democratic Party. Who can doubt that the Clinton Foundation leads the world in championing the cause of women's rights?

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
43. The Fracktivists are already in camp Bernie
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 08:07 PM
Apr 2016

Meet Claire Sandburg, Bernie's Digital Organizing Director

7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
54. Don't forget DU's H2O!!!
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 09:27 PM
Apr 2016

I think it is possible that Hill might, just maybe have overestimated how much she is loved in her new "home" state.
Earlier today I heard her speaking in PA. She is from Scranton too!! Let's see now, Chicago, Little Rock, Scranton, NY....... ...
Anyplace else?

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
22. If Hillary loses New York by even one vote, it will change everything.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 02:42 AM
Apr 2016


If she loses her "home" state, the second biggest state, with a ton of delegates, the voters and everyone in the media will have to take notice and discuss what exactly is her problem.

It would really position Bernie for possible wins going forward. Winning by a small margin wouldn't change the delegate math much, but it would still be a huge symbolic victory and set us up well for the next round of states.
 

Zira

(1,054 posts)
32. Have you seen one of her lying sprees, I mean campaign speeches? She looks just like that only in
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 05:29 PM
Apr 2016

a gold straight jacket that someone with really bad taste picked for her.

It mimes dr. evils suit from Austin powers.

Lately she's had the straight jacket in different colors. It reminds me of how crazy she is.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
35. About the suit. .. I can say this because I'm her age.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 06:21 PM
Apr 2016

Covers up the sagging skin in the neck. It's maddening, I tell you and every older woman knows it.

 

Zira

(1,054 posts)
37. Okay, I see then. I just thought she had profoundly bad taste.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 07:42 PM
Apr 2016

Yes, it covers the neck. She should just try a scarf.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
38. Agree...she would look better with a scarf. I've given in to it,
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 07:45 PM
Apr 2016

But I'm not in the bright light of news. Thank goodness.

Karma13612

(4,557 posts)
56. I believe the style is just good for
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 09:44 PM
Apr 2016

Covering the bulletproof vest she has on underneath.

I noticed a few days ago in a picture it looked like she was rather "bulky" looking and that's when it dawned on me: bullet proof vest.

The stakes are pretty high.

Beacool

(30,260 posts)
39. Classy.......
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 07:46 PM
Apr 2016

Then again, Sanders' supporters and RW denizens have a lot in common when it comes to how they treat Hillary.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
24. The race was "tight" in Iowa, now Sanders is running away with it.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 08:39 AM
Apr 2016

big trouble for team Clinton.

Sounds like they are about to do too much and too late (like 2008).

MFM008

(19,863 posts)
28. DELEGATE COUNT
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 04:26 PM
Apr 2016

Delegates


until they change, it doesn't matter if he wins every state, or if you give your last dime.

 

Zira

(1,054 posts)
31. They should be scared. Wall Street is a dangerous street. I hear they jump people and
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 05:27 PM
Apr 2016

disappear them when they don't preform for the hood.

Hillary's going to get a JP Morgan Chases, Citigroup, Goldman Sachs blanket party for misleading her owners.

She told them she had it in the bag and they don't like to be lied to.

Jarqui

(10,150 posts)
34. How could they be worried?
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 06:05 PM
Apr 2016

They've been telling us they have 2.5 million more votes for weeks.

... which most of us with half a brain know as they know: that's meaningless BS.

That's partly why they're worried.

If they lose the elected delegates, Hillary's campaign is in real trouble. Even if they persuaded the super delegates to overturn the elected result, the party would be so fractured, particularly after her damn the torpedoes, nuke the party and talk about it after approach, that she couldn't pull it together. And there's no way a fractured Dem party will get her elected president becaise Independents and Republicans hate her and don't trust her. 72% of Independents voted for Bernie last night.

I think PA is now close enough that Bernie (down only 6 before campaigning there) can take it. Rhode Island and Connecticut (in spite of Annie Oakley playing the Sandy Hook card) are close to Vermont and New Hampshire. I suspect Bernie will take those.

Next up is New York - two weeks away and Bernie was within 11 before a Wisconsin bounce. Maybe what they're seeing is it's just got a lot closer and New York is tipping towards Bernie

I think she's in good shape to win Maryland and probably Delaware with the large black populations. But it's the north and Bernie will probably be able to keep it fairly tight in those two states.

It may be that April ends with Hillary allegedly winning a still contested election in Arizona and winning just Maryland and Delaware ... while Bernie takes the other 12 contests and tightens the race considerably.

The problem for Hillary is: a lot of the states left are pretty white - some may be landslide territory. So Bernie is very likely going to continue to rack up those states and close the delegate gap even more.

He's only 11 pts down in California with 475 delegates up for grabs. He's now a threat to finish her off there.

Having said that, as we saw in Wisconsin, delegates are hard to pile up unless you get a landslide. So the advantage still belongs to Hillary. But they're worried because they can't finish him off any time soon, they're having trouble keeping up financially and Bernie's campaign is not dead - he can still win the elected delegate contest.

After Maryland and Delaware, Bernie could run the table because there's no more big black vote to bail her out. She may well be in considerable trouble.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
36. If I had a dime for everyone who had a friend who overheard something...
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 06:23 PM
Apr 2016

Not the most reliable source, you know.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
60. that is why the new talking points are out
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:15 PM
Apr 2016

someone said yesterday that she could lose ny and that it would be embarassing but it would not matter other than that.

sure, ok.

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