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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:44 PM Apr 2016

CALCULUS: The NRA Spent Thousands to Get Bernie Elected — Then He Voted With Them

CALCULUS: The NRA Spent Thousands to Get Bernie Elected — Then He Voted With Them
By Susan Madrak
April 10, 2016

For the entire 2016 election, voters have been subjected to an insistent narrative that Bernie Sanders is a model of progressive purity while Hillary Clinton is an unprincipled, calculating politician in the pocket of special interests. We strongly reject that false frame and have repeatedly argued that all politicians make difficult choices, some good, some not so good. Bernie isn’t exempt from that reality.

Bernie’s history on guns is hardly the model of progressive purity. During a recent Morning Joe appearance, he was defensive when asked to comment on New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s assessment that on gun manufacturer immunity, Bernie made “a political decision on a moral issue.”


http://bluenationreview.com/nra-spent-thousands-to-get-bernie-elected/
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CALCULUS: The NRA Spent Thousands to Get Bernie Elected — Then He Voted With Them (Original Post) workinclasszero Apr 2016 OP
I want a LINK to where the NRA spent 1000s on Bernie. Or else take this blatant lie down. jillan Apr 2016 #1
The exact amount is not the issue. The NRA helped get Bernie elected. Simple as that. riversedge Apr 2016 #5
WHERE IS THE LINK? Yes I am yelling. I want you to prove it. jillan Apr 2016 #7
Did you know the NRA loves Sanders YES on immunity stance? Here is the NRA tweet... riversedge Apr 2016 #12
Not eveything the NRA stands for is wrong jack_krass Apr 2016 #36
Right. They thought giving him a D- rating would help Bernie win a lot of votes from NRA members. imagine2015 Apr 2016 #26
You need to read the OP carefully--pay close attention to time period. riversedge Apr 2016 #37
The NRA LOVES Bernies views on guns! workinclasszero Apr 2016 #10
I want a LINK to where the NRA spent 1000s on Bernie. jillan Apr 2016 #11
Your post reminds me of lyrics-RollingStone--'you can't always get what you want' riversedge Apr 2016 #15
And your post reminds me of Meghan Trainor's "Your Lips are Moving." jillan Apr 2016 #19
I agree with Bernie. Do you favor making gun ownership illegal for civilians? I don't. imagine2015 Apr 2016 #27
Blue Nation Review? HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #2
If you go to BNR there is no link to back up this claim. This is slanderous. jillan Apr 2016 #4
^this^ Hiraeth Apr 2016 #30
lol AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #3
Went to the link. Read the article. NRA did NOT spend thousands on Bernie. grntuscarora Apr 2016 #6
But but it's on the internets! It must be true! jillan Apr 2016 #8
What bs! The NRA was pissed off at the Republican running against Bernie merrily Apr 2016 #9
You wish....the NRA loves Bernie! workinclasszero Apr 2016 #13
Twitter is your source? LMAO. Disprove ONE thing in my post. ONE. merrily Apr 2016 #17
Still waiting for you to disprove ONE thing in my Reply 9, which you claimed was wishful thinking. merrily Apr 2016 #21
What's "wrong" with his views on guns? basselope Apr 2016 #14
He hasn't done a 180, as Hillary is pretending to have done--until she feels a need to evolve again. merrily Apr 2016 #23
Like Republicans, the Hillaryites are proud of how much they lie LondonReign2 Apr 2016 #16
"Bernie’s history on guns is hardly the model of progressive purity." jmg257 Apr 2016 #18
Goes over great in rural Vermont! merrily Apr 2016 #22
Comparisons are odious Armstead Apr 2016 #20
Thanks! See also the link at Reply 23 and sources cited there. merrily Apr 2016 #24
That's why they rate him D-. These posts are so pathetic. Vinca Apr 2016 #25
If I choke on a chicken bone can I sue the chicken farmer? imagine2015 Apr 2016 #28
More Gunneria from Bluenitions. Eleanors38 Apr 2016 #29
lol Hiraeth Apr 2016 #31
The Military & Prison Industrial Complexes spent thousands to get Clinton elected - Money well spent Live and Learn Apr 2016 #32
Was about time this bullshit showed up again. n/t Orsino Apr 2016 #33
How many thousands? Link or slink. n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #34
Is this slander or libel? I always gets those two words confused. -nt- chascarrillo Apr 2016 #35
You must confuse easily. Besides the truth of the OP is neither. riversedge Apr 2016 #38
A "D-minus" rating isn't "voting for them". Ken Burch Apr 2016 #39

riversedge

(70,218 posts)
12. Did you know the NRA loves Sanders YES on immunity stance? Here is the NRA tweet...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:55 PM
Apr 2016

And I do not have to prove anything (contact the author of the article) --so demand away......

NRA Verified account
‏@NRA

Sen. Sanders was spot-on in his comments about gun manufacturer liability/PLCAA http://cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/sanders-what-youre-really-talking-about-ending-gun-manufacturing-america-I … #DemDebate


 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
26. Right. They thought giving him a D- rating would help Bernie win a lot of votes from NRA members.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:22 PM
Apr 2016

Get anti-Bernie people are really getting drastic and are throwing all logic out the windoe!
 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
27. I agree with Bernie. Do you favor making gun ownership illegal for civilians? I don't.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:24 PM
Apr 2016

And Bernie doesn't.

He supports the constitution.

Do you?
 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
2. Blue Nation Review?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:46 PM
Apr 2016


Why don't we discuss the millions the Saudis have to Hillary in exchange for approving their huge arms deal.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
4. If you go to BNR there is no link to back up this claim. This is slanderous.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:48 PM
Apr 2016

I am sick of the lies.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
9. What bs! The NRA was pissed off at the Republican running against Bernie
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:53 PM
Apr 2016

and did a mailing for a drop in the bucket as far as budgets go. There is no evidence the mailing got Bernie elected. The NRA never spent another dime on Bernie and consistently gave him an F rating until a couple of years ago, when it went to D-. By contrast, Governors Dean and Shumlin, both of whom endorsed Hillary had A ratings.

The dishonestly of this kind crap is disgraceful.

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
16. Like Republicans, the Hillaryites are proud of how much they lie
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:57 PM
Apr 2016

And like Republicans, you have no shame about it.

Did I say "like" Republicans? Well strike the "like" part.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
18. "Bernie’s history on guns is hardly the model of progressive purity."
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:58 PM
Apr 2016

Good. Being from up-state NY, an NRA rating of D- isn't exactly gonna go over too well.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
20. Comparisons are odious
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:00 PM
Apr 2016
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-nra-lobbyist_us_56d5e214e4b03260bf784001

Hillary Clinton’s campaign will hold a fundraiser in Washington on March 21 that will feature as one of its hosts Jeff Forbes, who until the end of last year worked as a lobbyist for the National Rifle Association.

Forbes, a former chief of staff to former Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.), was registered as a lobbyist for the NRA Institute from 2009 until the end of 2015 on issues such as protecting Second Amendment rights, and regulation and gun control, according to lobbying disclosures. He donated $2,700 to the Clinton campaign in April when he was still registered to lobby against gun control. In addition, a colleague at his Forbes-Tate lobbying shop, Elizabeth Greer, also donated $2,700 while registered to lobby for the NRA.

The donation, and Forbes’ hosting of the upcoming fundraiser, may complicate a central part of Clinton’s current broadside against her opponent, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)

merrily

(45,251 posts)
24. Thanks! See also the link at Reply 23 and sources cited there.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:18 PM
Apr 2016

The thread opening post is such dishonest crap, it's disgraceful

Vinca

(50,271 posts)
25. That's why they rate him D-. These posts are so pathetic.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:18 PM
Apr 2016

Anyone with a passing knowledge of law knows you won't get anywhere suing a legal manufacturer for a legal product that was legally sold. It doesn't really matter whether that law was passed or not.

 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
28. If I choke on a chicken bone can I sue the chicken farmer?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:27 PM
Apr 2016

This is silly land with supporters of Hillary Clinton, the former Senator from Wall Street.
 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
39. A "D-minus" rating isn't "voting for them".
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 05:24 PM
Apr 2016

It's simple...if he had been totally anti-gun he would never have been elected to the House or the Senate from Vermont. And nobody else would ever have been elected on a totally anti-gun platform in that state, either.

He voted against the NRA on every issue other than corporate liability. That one issue is not more important than everything else.
And it would never have prevented Sandy Hook.

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