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Hillary caught flat out lying. An Oscar worthy performance. (Original Post) Phlem Apr 2016 OP
That's like catching a fish flat out swimming Jester Messiah Apr 2016 #1
It amazes me that they think it okay. bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #4
It's not they think it's okay, but more that is a way to conduct one's business nolabels Apr 2016 #22
Lying about being a victim of warfare is particularly disgusting. Bonobo Apr 2016 #2
This liar wants to lead our Country and people are fine with it...just amazed as I said before! bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #7
Again? LOL! Politicalboi Apr 2016 #3
Dude, your killing me! Phlem Apr 2016 #8
Hillary and Brian Williams should compare notes on starring in dramatic war stories. Merryland Apr 2016 #27
Brian made one mistake. Duval Apr 2016 #38
too good yourpaljoey Apr 2016 #29
Keep it up itsrobert Apr 2016 #5
+1 Trenzalore Apr 2016 #6
Oh I think I'm going to need more effort than that. Phlem Apr 2016 #9
Why? Fawke Em Apr 2016 #10
Exactly. Phlem Apr 2016 #12
I'm with you Politicalboi Apr 2016 #13
The secret with be to keep Bern-Net working to start to focus on state elections and LiberalArkie Apr 2016 #18
Impeachment will start day one 2pooped2pop Apr 2016 #19
Because we don't need that fucking noise here when we are trying to win an election. JTFrog Apr 2016 #25
Mkay. Phlem Apr 2016 #36
No one is telling you who to vote for. JTFrog Apr 2016 #37
"Because we don't need that fucking noise here when we are trying to win an election." Phlem Apr 2016 #40
Agreed 100% pinebox Apr 2016 #39
From your keyboard to the Heavens above --- IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #11
I think not. The fun will move somewhere else if Sanders doesn't get the nod. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #15
If telling the truth about lying yes we will keep it up. bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #20
So tell us, why are you OK with the constant lies of your preferred candidate? LondonReign2 Apr 2016 #26
Yup, if Hillary is the nominee no more fun for anyone but the .01% All in it together Apr 2016 #30
Best shot? She's a habitual liar. ViseGrip Apr 2016 #14
So true. Phlem Apr 2016 #16
"She Was Practiced At The Art Of Deception..." --Rolling Stones... AzDar Apr 2016 #17
repeatedly amborin Apr 2016 #21
... DanTex Apr 2016 #23
It's not a fucking smear if it's the Truth chief. Phlem Apr 2016 #24
Your post has no substance again. Try refuting it. Phlem Apr 2016 #32
Hillary supporters are unable to look past the female and SEE THE POLITICIAN! Phlem Apr 2016 #28
I wouldn't have Faux pas Apr 2016 #31
If we have to choose between two pathological liars, wouldn't you pick the Democrat? Shrike47 Apr 2016 #33
Not when there's three people running. VulgarPoet Apr 2016 #34
"Not when there's three people running" Phlem Apr 2016 #35
 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
1. That's like catching a fish flat out swimming
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 09:09 PM
Apr 2016

I mean, at this point, it's like "yeah, and...?" It's what she does. People who support her actually like this about her, that she's such a consummate "player of the game." It's not an issue. It's what she does.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
22. It's not they think it's okay, but more that is a way to conduct one's business
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:48 AM
Apr 2016

Understanding what you are working with is half the battle in getting whatever you are doing done.

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
2. Lying about being a victim of warfare is particularly disgusting.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 09:09 PM
Apr 2016

She has encouraged the deaths of many, many, many people through her votes and speeches.

There are real people, innocent people, babies that are actually the victims of wars.

It is disgusting to make light of that by playing the false victim.

Merryland

(1,134 posts)
27. Hillary and Brian Williams should compare notes on starring in dramatic war stories.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 12:10 PM
Apr 2016

Like 2 aging lying generals.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
10. Why?
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 09:26 PM
Apr 2016

Even if she becomes the nominee, do you think we're magically going to stop discussing her flaws? Maybe not on this board as its a violation of TOS, but we're going to continue to point out how really bad she is all over social media.

No matter what you think, there is a sizeable chunk of progressive voters who will NEVER vote for her. If we'd wanted a Republican, we'd have voted for one. We'll be going Green or writing in our choice.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
13. I'm with you
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 09:37 PM
Apr 2016

I will support Jill Stein over Hillary. And visiting other sites to warn others about Hillary. And of course pointing out her never ending LIES! It's going to be fun to watch tears of defeat again. YUM!!!!

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
18. The secret with be to keep Bern-Net working to start to focus on state elections and
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:18 AM
Apr 2016

not let it fall apart. If that can be done then the nation can be changed.

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
19. Impeachment will start day one
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 11:29 AM
Apr 2016

She would go down in history as the worst president ever, perhaps even beating out Bush. Then electing a woman president after that will be nearly impossible. Then she will take her place as the second half of the only husband and wife team to be impeached.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
25. Because we don't need that fucking noise here when we are trying to win an election.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 12:07 PM
Apr 2016

We'll be making phone calls, registering voters, getting out the vote and using DU as a place to support the Democratic nominee for president.

As Skinner said after Obama became the presumptive nominee:

A thought about context and the constructiveness of criticism.
Posted by Skinner in General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009)
Wed Jul 02nd 2008, 08:59 AM

Since the FISA and faith-based stories have been in the news, there has been a lot of discussion about whether (and how) members should be permitted to criticize Barack Obama, our presumptive presidential nominee. I'm not going to get into the gritty details of enforcement, or what is-or-isn't permitted, because that is not the purpose of this post. The purpose of this post is merely to make an observation about criticism, and the context in which it is offered.

If someone offers criticism of Barack Obama, I find that the criticism is easier to accept if the speaker has already sufficiently demonstrated their support for Senator Obama's candidacy.

Put another way: If you want to be taken seriously, it helps to prove your bona-fides.

To be clear: I'm not speaking as a DU Administrator here. My purpose is merely to offer some helpful insight to those of you who don't seem to understand why you are not showered with rose petals when you offer your special brand of constructive criticism here on DU. Allow me to explain.

If you have spent the last six-to-twelve months trashing Senator Obama here on DU, and since the primaries ended you have not given any credible indication that you are now a supporter of his campaign, then if you post a thread about how you are incredibly disappointed in him because {insert reason here}, people are likely to wonder about your motivations and conclude that you are still trying to derail his campaign.

I'm not saying they're right. I'm not saying it's fair. What I am saying is that it is virtually inevitable.

So, if you want to be taken seriously -- if you want your constructive criticism to be accepted as constructive -- I humbly suggest that you put some effort into demonstrating that you actually want our guy to win this thing.


Of course at that time there were moderators and actual rules about constructive criticism. I hear they are making some changes around here to deal with the noisemakers after we have a nominee regardless of which candidate wins. Things have progressed far beyond "heated politics" here.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
36. Mkay.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:12 PM
Apr 2016

Sorry but I won't be here if Hillary is the presumptive nominee. Oh I'll follow the rules but I'm voting for who I want as president. I'll take it somewhere else.

I've been here since before her 1st try, she is worse than before. But go ahead and work for someone who's a pathological liar. I won't make any so called noise around here, but I will continue to spread the truth.

Happy?

Oh, and Hell No I don't want a Republican to win but that's not my fucking fault is it. I've always voted D, never voted R, will never ever vote R. But I have suffered greatly under Clinton and Obama, 2 thirdway politicians, yet you're asking me to do it again? Seriously? Yea that's right it's not all fucking Rainbows and Unicorns out here in real world.

Politicians are supposed to work for us, not themselves. They are not fucking rock stars or celebrities but the nations and the citizens of that nation's employees and I'm going to hire the best candidate for the job, not vote for the lesser of 2 evils ever again because that is not a choice, it's blackmail.

We are not going to align until we all feel the same equal pain, unfortunately we are not there yet. We desperately needed that when Obama the populist was running, then turned complete Thirdway after becoming President. Not playing that game anymore.

If politicians cannot entice people to vote for them that is their fault and the Party's fault, not the people's.

Remember, voting is each individual's choice?

Simple logic.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
40. "Because we don't need that fucking noise here when we are trying to win an election."
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:19 PM
Apr 2016

"We'll be making phone calls, registering voters, getting out the vote and using DU as a place to support the Democratic nominee for president."

Exactly, like before, when every time a thirdway corporate friendly candidate is in place, we work against our best interest.

So we're in agreement.

Like I said before, never voted Republican, never will.

All in it together

(275 posts)
30. Yup, if Hillary is the nominee no more fun for anyone but the .01%
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 12:23 PM
Apr 2016

I guess unless we keep pushing on Hillary to go left and not go to war, not encourage fracking, but save our environment and reduce climate change. Not fun, much more work than electing Bernie in the first place.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
24. It's not a fucking smear if it's the Truth chief.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 12:01 PM
Apr 2016

Nice try but you lose.

It's extremely dangerous to ignore the facts about a candidate's past thinking they'll be different once they're elected.

She's tried it before and she's using the same BS that she did last time, this time.

Look past the female and SEE THE POLITICIAN!

Jeeebus!

Go on and ignore the facts of her history, the rest of us won't.



PS. Don't be a hypocrite, you know damn well Hillary supporters do a fantastic job of smearing.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
28. Hillary supporters are unable to look past the female and SEE THE POLITICIAN!
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 12:13 PM
Apr 2016

They think Sanders supporters are not pro female and don't realize we are evaluating the politician which goes hand in hand with the person.

The Person running for President will be evaluated no matter what. If the person has any skeletons in their closet, they will be found.

All part of running for POTUS. See History.

FFS.

Faux pas

(14,681 posts)
31. I wouldn't have
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 12:24 PM
Apr 2016

a pathological liar for a friend. Why would all the clintonians want one as our country's leader???? Do not compute.

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
34. Not when there's three people running.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 12:59 PM
Apr 2016

Thankfully, my home of record is in a state deep enough red, that if I cut my hand open compared to it, it'd look like I was bleeding white; so my vote really doesn't matter.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
35. "Not when there's three people running"
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:06 PM
Apr 2016

Exactly.

2 from the establishment and 1 trying to change the establishment.

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