2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumEven if Hillary wins New York, How many delegates do you expect 20?
Even if she wins New York fifty-something percent to 40 something percent, how many net delegates are we talking about?
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)And that's not going to happen.
Csainvestor
(388 posts)Bernie just has to keep it close, and it looks like he will.
OhZone
(3,212 posts)Oh well.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Bleacher Creature
(11,257 posts)I'm really not trying to be snarky, I just don't get it.
HillareeeHillaraah
(685 posts)Because she's ahead, her delegates get her closer to the finish line. So it's not so much about what she nets overs Sanders, but rather how much closer it gets her to the finish line.
His delegates need to close the gap so for him the emphasis is not how many delegates but rather how many more than Clinton.
Zynx
(21,328 posts)There's only one third of the country left. Even if he wins CA by 10, he nets only 40ish delegates. He needs wins coming up to close the gap.
brooklynite
(94,596 posts)Their thinking is now: if we can keep Clinton from winning outright; we can go to the Convention and convince the SDs to support us on electability.
Hey, it's working for Ted Cruz.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)OhZone
(3,212 posts)sasmath
(24 posts)It's maybe 25 delegates...
Zynx
(21,328 posts)sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)more in her so called "home state" than Bernie
did in his.
Delegate numbers are a different story.
ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)even I don't think Bernie will take NY. Close Primaries are really a bitch. Bernie's name was hardly on the radar when the time closed to change party affiliation and too many young people probably weren't aware of the process. I know down here in Florida we had to make a big effort to re-register or register people. And so many had already voted by absentee by the time we had the Primary.
We've had closed Primaries down here for a really, really long time and STILL it's not something a run of the mill voter is aware of. I know I've complained about closed Primaries for YEARS, but it is what it is. Most people don't like them, but we've never even able to get it changed.
Zynx
(21,328 posts)He can't possibly close the gap without a big win in NY.
ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)about what anyone thinks. Carry on.
Zynx
(21,328 posts)She's way ahead and just needs to hold roughly where she is.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)If Sanders wins by less than 57%, he has lost his last best hope for the nomination.
And as to the rest of the States, I bet you can see where I'm going with this.
Zynx
(21,328 posts)When two of the three most populous states only give you 33% of the vote, that's a problem. NY is the fourth biggest and at best he won't net any delegates out of it. At worst, he'll fall another 20-30 behind. I don't think he'll do any worse than that, but still.
The slew of NE states the week after next looks no better for him. Probably about a wash between them and possibly a small Hillary pick-up. Indiana, Kentucky, and West Virginia will probably be a small net pick-up for Sanders, but I'm not certain of that. Then there's the Dakotas, which really don't matter, same goes for Montana. Puerto Rico will probably be big for Hillary. NJ will be good for Hillary as well. OR will be a good Bernie state and I see CA being close to a tie, probably leaning Hillary. If you can tell me how this produces a Bernie win, be my guest.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)Zynx
(21,328 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)So good.
I agree he can not win.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)away from Bernie's plan for takeoff.