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Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 12:00 AM Apr 2016

Hillary Clinton paid female staff 72 cents for each dollar paid to men when she was a senator

Though former secretary of state and presumed 2016 candidate Hillary Clinton is known for her vocal support of women's equality, during her time in the Senate she perhaps wasn't so consistent on this issue. Analysis done by the Washington Free Beacon of the salaries Clinton paid her female and male Senate staffers revealed that male staffers were paid, on average, about $15,000 more than females.



The difference works out to about 72 cents paid to women for each dollar paid to male staff, which is even more marked a disparity than the widely cited figure of 77 cents on the dollar.
http://theweek.com/speedreads/540672/hillary-clinton-paid-female-staff-72-cents-each-dollar-paid-men-when-senator
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Hillary Clinton paid female staff 72 cents for each dollar paid to men when she was a senator (Original Post) Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 OP
Which was higher than avg, Hillary still wins Sanders still had someone who called Obama niggerized uponit7771 Apr 2016 #1
so you're fine with people paying women 78% of what men are paid? AgerolanAmerican Apr 2016 #2
Nope, I'm ok with Hillary being better than avg at the time and wanting things to be better overalll uponit7771 Apr 2016 #3
But she was actually significantly worse than average AgerolanAmerican Apr 2016 #18
Crickets. . LOL B Calm Apr 2016 #32
This is false and has been debunked outright, freeperville memes < facts uponit7771 Apr 2016 #39
That's the Hillary can do spirit I know ThePhilosopher04 Apr 2016 #23
Facts Are Facts... Hillary Is Hypocritical And Did Not Display LEADERSHIP When The Opportunity CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #28
Already two post here showing the op is false, more sophistry from a desperate Sanders camp uponit7771 Apr 2016 #40
WOOOOHOOOO! Buddyblazon Apr 2016 #37
Dis Sanders even have women on his staff? nt fun n serious Apr 2016 #19
I think that was Bill's responsibility. He was very good at it! Nt jmg257 Apr 2016 #38
It is a great big honking right wing lie--and they brought it here, to DEMOCRATIC Underground. MADem Apr 2016 #11
WOW....They're just making shit up at this point uponit7771 Apr 2016 #13
Yeah, when they're sharing sources with the Trumpistas, it's getting sad. Free Beacon is a piece of MADem Apr 2016 #14
I'm still of the mind that 3/4 of them are straight out of freeperville, they even think like em... uponit7771 Apr 2016 #15
The originator of this thread, if he wanted to salvage his reputation, should apologize, admit his MADem Apr 2016 #16
When all else fails hurl Freeper allegations. Amusing. ThePhilosopher04 Apr 2016 #24
all else hasnt failed uponit7771 Apr 2016 #26
Flat out, your on ignore. Talk about a stump... mrdmk Apr 2016 #21
And Hillary voted for Iraq which resulted in the deaths of millions. pinebox Apr 2016 #33
What does that have to do with pay equity? NWCorona Apr 2016 #36
"It's what she offered." dchill Apr 2016 #4
Why are you posting rw trash from the Washington Free Bacon? hrmjustin Apr 2016 #5
I don't either. blue neen Apr 2016 #7
It's not true, they have no shame. When they use GOP lies to make the point...well.... MADem Apr 2016 #10
Thanks for the info. blue neen Apr 2016 #12
This blatant right-wing LIE has been debunked. MADem Apr 2016 #9
She's better than him now, whats his excuse? MattP Apr 2016 #6
Ah, this old right wing lie again!!! Y'all have NO shame!!! Jumping in bed with REINCE PRIEBUS! MADem Apr 2016 #8
figures. Zira Apr 2016 #17
I think her campaign and the Clinton Foundation also shortchange women jfern Apr 2016 #20
Debunked...see link anotherproletariat Apr 2016 #22
I will delete this OP in exchange for one deleted OP on Sanders fake vatican scandal Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #25
Tragic OP is tragic. Starry Messenger Apr 2016 #27
I will try to do better Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #35
You have to pair experience, job level, and job type. Then determine pay Jitter65 Apr 2016 #29
Kinda like being a champion of the Fight for $15 by advocating $12. Scuba Apr 2016 #30
Hillary's "honesty" surfaces again. Vinca Apr 2016 #31
Thanks to the several DUers who have posted the link debunking this "story" (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #34

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
1. Which was higher than avg, Hillary still wins Sanders still had someone who called Obama niggerized
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 12:01 AM
Apr 2016

... stump for him in front of mostly white people in IA and NH

next?

tia

 

AgerolanAmerican

(1,000 posts)
2. so you're fine with people paying women 78% of what men are paid?
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 12:03 AM
Apr 2016

That's higher than average, too. So just dandy, right?

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
3. Nope, I'm ok with Hillary being better than avg at the time and wanting things to be better overalll
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 12:04 AM
Apr 2016

... in regards to pay equity.

Republicans hate Hillary Clinton, I don't

 

AgerolanAmerican

(1,000 posts)
18. But she was actually significantly worse than average
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:11 AM
Apr 2016

Average was 77% and Clinton paid 72%... that's a significant gap.

Don't you think some criticism of this practice is due and proper?

 

ThePhilosopher04

(1,732 posts)
23. That's the Hillary can do spirit I know
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:35 AM
Apr 2016

settle for half-measures and claim you're fighting like hell, all the while enriching the pockets of corporate America. Sheep will be sheep.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
28. Facts Are Facts... Hillary Is Hypocritical And Did Not Display LEADERSHIP When The Opportunity
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 07:12 AM
Apr 2016

to Raise Women Up Presented itself... She could have and should have taken a stand when she was ... technically speaking the EMPLOYER of these women!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
14. Yeah, when they're sharing sources with the Trumpistas, it's getting sad. Free Beacon is a piece of
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 12:22 AM
Apr 2016

shit source.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
15. I'm still of the mind that 3/4 of them are straight out of freeperville, they even think like em...
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 12:23 AM
Apr 2016

... fuck facts and math.

Straight up freeper

MADem

(135,425 posts)
16. The originator of this thread, if he wanted to salvage his reputation, should apologize, admit his
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 12:27 AM
Apr 2016

error, and delete the damn thread.

Will it happen? Let's see.....


Cue the Jeopardy theme!!!!


 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
33. And Hillary voted for Iraq which resulted in the deaths of millions.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 07:59 AM
Apr 2016

End of story.

Oh and Hillary has has her interns volunteer, Bernie pays them. Sorry, you lose.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
36. What does that have to do with pay equity?
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:19 PM
Apr 2016

Besides you left out that was West who said that.

Didn't Bill Clinton say that Obama should be getting him coffee?

blue neen

(12,322 posts)
7. I don't either.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 12:08 AM
Apr 2016

It doesn't specify what types of positions that people held, etc. This is very unscientific information. In fact, the article says that in 2005 women were paid slightly higher than men on her staff.

blue neen

(12,322 posts)
12. Thanks for the info.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 12:17 AM
Apr 2016

I thought something seemed amiss:

"Pushing back against that analysis, the Clinton campaign provided FactCheck.org a list of the names, titles and annual salaries of every full-time person employed in Clinton’s Senate office between 2002 and 2008. Those data show the median salary for men and women to be the same at $40,000. The data also show Clinton hired roughly twice as many women as men."

"The Clinton list of salaries included full-time workers who may have worked only part of the year, or who took brief unpaid leaves of absence. The Free Beacon list excluded anyone who did not work for an entire fiscal year. Left off the Free Beacon list, for example, was a male assistant to the chief of staff earning a salary of $35,000, because he took a two-week unpaid leave of absence to work on a House campaign."

MADem

(135,425 posts)
8. Ah, this old right wing lie again!!! Y'all have NO shame!!! Jumping in bed with REINCE PRIEBUS!
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 12:10 AM
Apr 2016
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/04/gender-pay-gap-in-clintons-senate-office/


The Republican National Committee chairman says Hillary Clinton paid women in her Senate office less than men. But annual salary data provided by the Clinton campaign show median salaries for men and women in Clinton’s office were virtually identical.
What gives? The answer may be unsatisfying, but it boils down to methodology.
RNC chairman Reince Priebus based his claim on a report by the Washington Free Beacon of publicly available expense reports submitted biannually to the secretary of the Senate. Looking at median salaries among full-time, year-round employees, the Free Beacon concluded that women working in Clinton’s Senate office were paid 72 cents for each dollar paid to men.
Pushing back against that analysis, the Clinton campaign provided FactCheck.org a list of the names, titles and annual salaries of every full-time person employed in Clinton’s Senate office between 2002 and 2008. Those data show the median salary for men and women to be the same at $40,000. The data also show Clinton hired roughly twice as many women as men.
The Clinton list of salaries included full-time workers who may have worked only part of the year, or who took brief unpaid leaves of absence. The Free Beacon list excluded anyone who did not work for an entire fiscal year. Left off the Free Beacon list, for example, was a male assistant to the chief of staff earning a salary of $35,000, because he took a two-week unpaid leave of absence to work on a House campaign.
“There are many different ways to measure these things and you will get slightly different answers,” Eileen Patten, a research analyst at the Pew Research Center told us in a phone interview. “It’s not that either data set is flawed. They just show different things.”



Heckuvajob, there, Brownies! Grab that rightwing bullshit and spread it around!!
 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
29. You have to pair experience, job level, and job type. Then determine pay
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 07:41 AM
Apr 2016

Pay for SAME job. Not many jobs are at the same level in a campaign. If there is one male press secretay and one female secretary then the salaries can be compared.

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