Hillary’s “I’m Not a Crook” Moment

[NWCorona]

"As the Battle of New York looms, an underground shadow war flirts with High Noon. After nearly one year, the FBI has finally investigated the treasure trove contained in Hillary Clinton’s subterranean private email server. The FBI has refused to release any records. Remember, this is a criminal investigation.

Former State Department IT official Bryan Pagliano – who essentially set up Clinton’s personal server – was granted immunity in exchange for cooperating with the FBI’s investigation. A whodunit applies on whether Pagliano was told this server might be the conduit of secret State Department communications as well as top secret National Security issues.

The timeline of the Clinton subterranean homesick server blues does raise eyebrows. The story first broke in March 2013, when Romanian hacker “Guccifer” leaked four intercepted Sidney Blumenthal e-mails – related to Libya and Benghazi – to selected global media outlets."

And there's this-


"The Queen of Libya

If we follow journalism’s golden rule, widely praised by Alex Cockburn, of never trusting anything unless it’s officially denied, President Obama may have – inadvertently – placed Clinton in a world of grief. The President “guaranteed” on Fox News that there will be “no political influence” from the White House"


http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/04/13/hillarys-im-not-a-crook-moment/

[Buzz Clik]

1. Haven't we already compared HRC to Nixon?

I think so.

So, comments like "you couldn't sink any lower" won't apply because the conversation from the Sanders side has been down there for months.

[NWCorona]

5. Hillary can always sink lower

[Buzz Clik]

11. No doubt you'll be comparing her to Hitler next. Oh wait...

Stalin?

One of your pals compared her to Pol Pot the other day.

The trouble is, you've shot all your big guns. Now what?

[NWCorona]

18. That's a comparison that you are making in your mind.

It's funny that you'd even go there!

The things the subconscious does.

[Buzz Clik]

20. Uh, yeah. I told you it was posted here, not in my head.

Are you okay?

[NWCorona]

24. You said Pol Pot not the others

I'm fine, thank you!

[Buzz Clik]

25. No shit. And here's something funny about that: you posted on that very thread!!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511373915

[NWCorona]

28. I don't read or police every comment

What's your point?

[Buzz Clik]

30. LOL!

[NWCorona]

35. I'm glad you had a laugh but I did just look at the thread you linked

And you were the first one Pol pots name in your mouth and referenced it to Hillary.

Next?

[frylock]

40. hahahaha!

Good catch!

[NWCorona]

41. Thanks!

And it's obviously why the poster hasn't came back lol!

[SwampG8r]

47. Its like vince foster

Hillarians say we drag vince out but when you search only hillarians have done so
But that doesnt stop them from saying it and then they have the temerity to go on about it and assign blame to others
Whatever a hillary supporter claims someone is doing is what they themselves are actually doing.

[NWCorona]

36. I see you don't have a quick response to my last comment

[Katashi_itto]

6. Nixon at least had ethics.

[Buzz Clik]

7. You're defending Nixon?

[Katashi_itto]

8. In comparison to Hillary? That a trick question?

[Buzz Clik]

10. LOL!

Damn, I love you guys.

The desperation is thick you can cut it with Samurai sword.

[Katashi_itto]

12. Not desperation. Just observation of the irrational defense of a corrupt corporate shill.

As a ranking Iaidoka, try not to be to condescending of what keeps me in shape, oh mighty keyboard warrior.

[Buzz Clik]

13. Right. As if this thread has anything to do with "corrupt corporate shills."

[Katashi_itto]

15. It's talking about Hillary, so yes we are talking about "corrupt corporate shills."

[Buzz Clik]

19. I forgot. Anytime a thought pops in your head, you post it because... Hillary sucks.

Sorry. I sometimes lose focus of key elements of debating Sanders's supporters.

[Katashi_itto]

22. You even have focus?

Considering how camp-weather vane runs, I am not overly surprised.

[Buzz Clik]

27. Yet another cliched Berniebot insult.

have the last word. Consult your field manual.

[Katashi_itto]

31. Naw you Clintonistas have the dirty tricks manuals, the cheap websites, etc all sewn up.

After all, when Clinton is now viewed unfavorably by 55 percent of the electorate, according to the HuffPost Pollster average, which tracks findings from 42 different polling outfits. Only 40.2 percent of people view her favorably, according to that average.

It's all you have.

[PufPuf23]

34. I have in four or five posts. Nixon disgusted me and was a reason for my interest in politics.

To my recollection, Hillary Clinton reminds me more like Richard Nixon than any other politician in policy and more so manner.

I was there.

Marched in streets of Berkeley and San Francisco (and Marina Green for Presidio "traitors" against the Vietnam War and attended rallies for Eugene McCarthy, George Wallace, and Hubert Humphrey.

I was for the anti-war candidate.

Registered for the draft January 1971. Planned CO unnecessary because lottery number over 300.

I first voted for McGovern in 1972.

I supported Jerry Brown for POTUS in 1976 and 1980.

I was a career Federal employee under Nixon (also Carter and Reagan).

I am a lifetime Democrat.

As far as increasing one's personal wealth, Hillary Clinton by orders of magnitude over Richard Nixon.

Plus, Richard Nixon was a far better environmental POTUS (the Federal job was in environmental sciences), probably by accident as Reagan and GOP nightmare city).

Times were different for Richard Nixon, then but manner and character are timeless.

There is much overlap between Hillary Clinton and Richard Nixon.

Hillary Clinton knows better than to tape.

I may be put in position to vote for Hillary Clinton (and will bear a grudge).

[Umbral18]

44. Nixon resigned, for the good of the Country (ostensibly). n/t

[peacebird]

2. This was an interesting tidbit...

Now Forbes comes out all guns blazing:

“The Kremlin’s cyber warfare army has had ample opportunity to steal Clinton’s entire e-mail cache (including 31,830 “private” e-mails). Such hacking would likely have taken place before the Kremlin’s propaganda arm, RT (Russia Today), published Sidney Blumenthal’s e-mails to Clinton on March 20, 2013, presumably sending out alarms at that late date to Clinton to secure her private server. The Clinton cache of e-mail correspondence in the hands of the Kremlin or other hostile intelligence agencies could represent one of America’s greatest intelligence disasters, giving Vladimir Putin the opportunity to determine the outcome of the 2016 U.S. presidential election or, barring that, to cast a cloud over a Clinton presidency.”

[Buzz Clik]

14. Interesting but pure fantasy.

Will you folks believe anything negative written about Clinton no matter how ridiculous?

(rhetorical question)

[pdsimdars]

16. Someone pointed out that if someone got our secrets they aren't going to TELL us they have them

their interest is in letting us continue to operate in the way we were and them knowing about it now.

Oh, and those 22 emails we hear about. The reason they bring them up is because there are 3 main levels of security, the top being "top secret" and there are 4 levels within that. . Those 22 emails were at the highest category of the "top secret" level. Sitting on her UNENCRYPTED server at home.

And Hillary and her supporters say, "no problem". Just listen to people in the intelligence community, they can't BELIEVE it.

[peacebird]

21. Pay attaention to the dates. They released the Blumenthal emails one month AFTER Hillary left State

That means her private homebrew server would NOT be getting any more classified info on it, so burning that bridge was a no brainer.

[antigop]

32. peacebird, can you please provide a link to the Forbes article? thx. nt

[haikugal]

3. K&R! Thanks!

[Buzz Clik]

17. Seriously? You're giving this insanity a K&R?

[frylock]

42. knr

[CentralCoaster]

4. Link to the four Sid emails gained by hacker Guccifer below.

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https://www.rt.com/usa/complete-emails-guccifer-clinton-554/

So one can't call this server thing anything less than fatally negligent.

Was it criminal? I guess we'll see.

[NWCorona]

9. Yes we will find out soon enough!

And Guccifer didn't come over for cookies and milk.
It's going to be interesting for sure.

[JTFrog]

23. Ah, yes... Russian propaganda.

We don't put much faith in Russian propaganda here at DU and it's fairly frowned upon to link to said propaganda.

As mentioned by one of DU's administrators:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1259&pid=7771

RT is a propaganda outlet funded by the government of Russia.

Many people prefer that their news not be delivered by a government-funded mouthpiece. Kinda crazy, I know.

If you post stuff from RT, you take your chances.

[Bob41213]

38. Interesting....

I'm just thinking this is almost a separate issue from the lack of Govt email. This is playing outside the rules and ignoring them.

I hope you don't mind but I think this part is worthy of it's own thread which I plan to steal from you.

[awake]

26. If as we are lead to belive by Hillary there is nothing to be found

Then why is it taking so long to clear her of any wrong doing. I would think if there was no crime the investagation would have been over a long time ago. I have not heard a single reason why we have not heard that Hillary is not in hot water from the DOJ by now. The only reason that I can come up with it taking so long is the FBI wants to insure that their case has all of the evidance in place before the hammer falls.

[FreakinDJ]

29. BWAHahah

[pinebox]

33. We're getting close

I am thinking we may very well see things before summer is here and if that is indeed the case and the FBI recommends Hillary be indicted, heads are going to explode.

[NWCorona]

37. People will definitely be besides themselves lol

[amborin]

39. blatant, shameless,

[senz]

43. "Clinton as War Goddess"

They lay it out so succinctly:

• support for the contras in Nicaragua;
  
• support for NATO’s bombing of the former Yugoslavia;
  
• support for the 2003 Shock and Awe invasion and destruction of Iraq;
  
• support for Operation Enduring Freedom forever in AfPak;
  
• then, as Secretary of State, “her” war of turning Libya into a militia hell;
  
• the 2009 military coup in Honduras;
  
• and finally, support for regime change in Syria via Salafi-jihadis.

All this, predictably, translates into her full support by neocon stalwart Robert Kagan. Plus Pentagon insiders working overtime to save her reputation as if she was one of their own. The Deep State, anyway, knows; the Queen of Chaos is the ultimate neocon.

Yet it ain’t over till the FBI man calls.

Words theirs, formatting mine.

[Uncle Joe]

45. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, NWCorona.

[Karmadillo]

46. K&R

[DebDoo]

48. kick