2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBill Clinton: I don’t like it when people say Hillary Clinton is 'part of the establishment'
"Bill Clinton has fought criticisms that his wife and the presidential candidate Hillary Clinton is part of the establishment following opponents claims that she has ties with Wall Street, has accepted speech money from various banks and has worked for most of her life within politics.
The only thing I really dislike about this campaign is whenever somebody endorses Hillary, they get blasted on the email, on the internet, for being part of the establishment, Mr Clinton said to a small crowd in New York. Its a pretty big establishment now.
I mean it includes the Congressional Black Caucus, Planned Parenthood, the Human Rights Campaign, the League of Conservation Voters, several Hispanic organisations most of the Irish and I could go on and on.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/bill-clinton-i-don-t-like-it-when-people-say-hillary-clinton-is-part-of-the-establishment-a6981686.html
Sorry Bill, you and Hillary are a part of the establishment.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Thanks to you asshole. This is just another reason we don't want another Clinton in the WH.
MsFlorida
(488 posts)N/t
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)JonathanRackham
(1,604 posts)But that's where they ended up.
A good example of money and power corrupting ones ethic and political soul.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)"The only thing I really dislike about this campaign is whenever somebody endorses Hillary, they get blasted on the email, on the internet, for being part of the establishment"
- and that is, Bill, because they are, just like your wife is. And like most of the 20th century, it is over and we are over it!
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)SamKnause
(13,108 posts)SamKnause
(13,108 posts)Still pretending they don't know what being part of the establishment is.
I am sick of the Bush family.
I am sick of the Clinton family.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)and the leaders ARE the establishment.
Every endorsement Bernie has received has been gotten by polling the MEMBERS.
You can try to wordsmith and weasel your way out of it, but the fact remains, Hillary is NOT 'of the people, by the people or, more importantly FOR THE PEOPLE.' And neither is Bill.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Phlem
(6,323 posts)You are the establishment Bill.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)as someone who is being honest, and not angling to manipulate public opinion, are either very young, or very stupid.
He knows EXACTLY what that word means, and he knows for a FACT that they are both fundamentally ESTABLISHMENT. And as the establishment goes (for example, a branch of the government - Congress - that for 20+ years has held a public approval rating in the single digits), so goes the public's opinion of the Clinton's and their public service record.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,735 posts)You and Hillary are the establishment. You're not even on the edges of it; you're smack in the middle. In fact, you've done a heck of a lot to help perpetrate and increase it. Goldman Sachs doesn't pay $250K for a speech by some obscure fringe character who will never be in a position to do their bidding.
CalvinballPro
(1,019 posts)Avalux
(35,015 posts)Where did he come up with that one?
I expected him to say that people who think she's part of the establishment are sexist.
jillan
(39,451 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)BuelahWitch
(9,083 posts)Maybe he's been haunting Bill's dreams!
Avalux
(35,015 posts)I think Bill is losing it, seriously.
jillan
(39,451 posts)sofa king
(10,857 posts)Bill Clinton is the only President to be impeached in 140 years--for lying about a blowjob during an unprecedented era of peace and economic expansion. Does that make him part of "the establishment"?
The next President was the most criminal President we ever had, and he got away with it all. That definitely makes him part of "the establishment," doesn't it?
Mrs. Clinton has been savaged in the press every goddamned day for twenty-five fucking years. There is an entire net of hundreds of radio stations devoted to destroying her. There is a billion-dollar television network devoted to destroying her. There are billionaires who have devoted decades to destroying her.
Half of you fools are doing the work of Republicans by attempting to destroy her.
The establishment does not pervert the mechanism of democracy to try to steal the Presidency from one of their own, as they did with Bill Clinton. They do pervert the mechanism of democracy to steal the Presidency for one of their own. They'll violate everything sacred to protect that bastard, too, and so they did for George W. Bush.
I'm saying this not because I support Mrs. Clinton, though I am going to support her if she wins the nomination. I've been trying to stay out of it but bullshit like this pisses me off. So let me say it in bold and be done with it:
THE ESTABLISHMENT DOES NOT DEVOTE DECADES TO THE DESTRUCTION OF THEIR OWN.
So stop it, please!
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Punkingal
(9,522 posts)And if you can't see the MSM shilling for her daily then I feel sorry for you.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)Vinca
(50,278 posts)Yike! Bill . . . you are so out of touch. (I think that happens when you're part of the establishment.)
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Ino
(3,366 posts)Bill, stop pretending you haven't used the full force of your Establishment tentacles to buy/bribe/threaten/call in favors for all those endorsements.
Merryland
(1,134 posts)He said it was the softest hand he had ever shaken, a hand that had not done a lick of work in its life. (and this was around the time of the Monica Lewinsky deal, so ewwwwwwww)
CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)lots of charisma. But that was over 20 years ago before I really knew how awful he is.
Merryland
(1,134 posts)I believe Hillary exudes the same creepy charisma. One doesn't like to imagine making deals with the devil, but...
CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)- oh the irony, but this was 16 years ago - I told her I hoped she would run for president one day!
Plus it was in a bookstore full of people who had bought one of her books so you'd think she would at least have put on a friendly act.
Merryland
(1,134 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)I'm positive about that. That man has zero self control.
CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)appalachiablue
(41,146 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)kristopher
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By William Lazonick / AlterNet April 1, 2012
Corporations are not working for the 99 percent. But this wasnt always the case. In a special five-part series, William Lazonick, professor at UMass, president of the Academic-Industry Research Network, and a leading expert on the business corporation, along with journalist Ken Jacobson and AlterNets Lynn Parramore, will examine the foundations, history and purpose of the corporation to answer this vital question: How can the public take control of the business corporation and make it work for the real economy?
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That was the case a half century ago....
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Nobody with any decency gives a shit what you like .
beedle
(1,235 posts)All those activist $250K speeches to Wall St.
All those fundraising events with the grassroots millionaires and billionaires.
All that radical endorsement bribery of Democratic party 'dignataries'
All the organic fundraising through state party to Hillary Liberty fund money laundering
All that viral marketing through the MSM.
And most of all, all that abstinence and fidelity by sticking strictly to blow-jobs.