My concern was noted.

[Warren Stupidity]

As an ally I want to do the right thing. I thought that part of doing the right thing included speaking out as a white person when white people are engaging in racist behavior. For example, if a colleague at work tells a joke about "colored people time", I think I ought to speak up and let that colleague know that such jokes are not appropriate.

Am I wrong? Should I just shut the fuck up about white people behaving badly?

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	Your concern is noted, shut the fuck up.
	4 (10%)
	As an ally, you have an obligation to speak out.
	38 (90%)
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[yourpaljoey]

1. well done :)

[CalvinballPro]

2. Your side doesn't get to call blacks "low information voters" and then pretend to care about a skit.

If Bernie supporters hadn't belittled an entire race of people because they predominantly voted for his opponent, you might have a leg to stand on. But they did, so you don't.

[1StrongBlackMan]

5. True ... But/and, see post #4. n/t

[Warren DeMontague]

120. Bernie supporters have lain waste to entire galaxies with their Berniebrotastic perfidity!

The entire fabric of reality is threatened, by the fiendish berniebro.

[passiveporcupine]

125. Our side doesn't call blacks low information voters

There may be a few people here who said that, but the majority of Bernie supporters have not, and those few do not represent "our side", any more than the Hillary supporters who say ugly things about Bernie supporters represent "your" side.

There are low information voters in all cultures and classes and races in this country. And we've seen plenty of Blacks who are supporting Bernie. Are they low information voters too?

[VulgarPoet]

3. Somehow? I'm completely unsurprised at the FIRST "your concern is noted" vote.

ETA: was not expecting another person to vote that way.

[1StrongBlackMan]

4. I voted that you have an obligation; but, if you are talking about the Mayor D/Hillary C skit ...

Perhaps, you should watch the entire skit ... or just 5 seconds longer than what is being shown.

(Loosely recounted)

Mayor D: "I was on CP Time."

Black Actor: "Hey ... I don't like that kind of talk."

HRC: "CP time ... Cautious Politician Time."

Black Actor: "Oh. Okay."

The joke played on the knowledge of stereotypes of the Black and white audience. It, also, played on the racial discomfort of the white audience ... that is why those Blacks that have seen the whole thing, thinks it no big deal ... and, so many white folks are outraged at the utterance of CPT (that's where they stopped listening or understanding)

But, now, it's playing on the faux outrage of the audience that will latch onto anything that they think, or are told, will/might make HRC look bad.

[LexVegas]

9. You are, of course, correct. This is insincere outrage though. Not worth the effort. nt

[IdaBriggs]

33. Sort of like the Vatican invite and scheduling stuff, you mean?

Designed to distract from important issues like policy and position?

I would much rather hear about how the positions and "reforms" supported by Hillary have impacted the African American community.

Does she ever tour with victims of police shootings, for example?

[rbrnmw]

122. she does

[IdaBriggs]

123. Thank you for that information. nt

[Matt_in_STL]

10. So, in the hypothetical posed by the OP

Prior to discussing with the co-worker they should contact a black person to determine if in fact it is allowed and/or racist prior to discussing with the co-worker. The OP is considered unable to make a determination on whether the content is racist or not.

[geek tragedy]

14. the fact that they were using it to attack someone besides

the person who actually said the offending words indicates the objections were not in good faith.

As further demonstrated by their lack of interest as to whether black folks actually found it offensive.

[Matt_in_STL]

18. If I have a friend who makes a racist joke and others around him laugh

I am going to berate all of them. Their laughter or participation makes them just as complicit in my mind (and yes, I have done this). Does that make them racist? No, but it does make them tone deaf to racism and that should be addressed. Apologize and move on from it.

Now, I get the feeling I need to determine if it is even racist in the mind of a black person before I can care.

[geek tragedy]

30. before you hold yourself out as a paragon of anti-racist activism,

perhaps you should actually listen to what black folks are saying about it.

You've had plenty of opportunity, but still haven't.

P.S. this wasn't someone correcting a 'friend'--it was hyper-partisans who loathe one of those involved trying to leverage it to harm that person, for the sole purpose of damaging that person.

It's OBVIOUS what y'all are doing.

OBVIOUS.

[Matt_in_STL]

32. I'm not holding myself out as a paragon of anything

If I can't criticize Hillary for going along with a joke I found racist then I can't criticize those friends in my above example. If that's the case, then I acquiesce to the belief of the black folks that this is okay and racist jokes are not an issue if participated in by someone you support, be it a friend or a political candidate.

Racist jokes are either okay or not, regardless of who tells them or participates in them. If black folks want to pick a road for that I'm on board.

[geek tragedy]

36. Seriously, you're showing more racial tone-deafness than Clinton

or even Bill de Blasio did.

the belief of the black folks that this is okay and racist jokes are not an issue if participated in by someone you support, be it a friend or a political candidate.

This is textbook whitesplaining. You're assuming that black folks must have some bias that's preventing them from agreeing with you that something is racist and offensive.

You think you know better than black folks what constitutes anti-black racism, or that they're just less accepting of it than you?

Jesus Christ on a trailer hitch.

[1StrongBlackMan]

39. It wasn't a damned racist joke ...

if after Mayor D had said CP Time and HRC had NOT SAID CAUTIOUS POLITICIAN TIME, it could be considered racist.

[Kentonio]

53. You mean like the black poster who said she was offended

And got told in the AA forum to go back to the Bernie forum? That kind of listening?

[geek tragedy]

60. is this something that actually happened

or was it something else?

[Kentonio]

62. Yeah that happened.

[geek tragedy]

68. maybe I'll take your word for it that someone

said nothing but "As an African-American I'm offended" and was told to leave.

Nah.

[Kentonio]

72. You can always ask Imari362 herself.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/118748680#post112

[geek tragedy]

73. lol, as I figured, someone went in there

and called the entire group a bunch of Hillary drones, and preemptively whined that they were being persecuted.

[Kentonio]

74. No, a black poster was quite understandably annoyed at being told to 'take it to the Bernie group'

When they expressed their opinion that a racial comment was offensive to them. Then again given that the AA group is almost as partisan as the Clinton forum, that's really not a surprise.

If you doubt that by the way, you'll surely be able to explain why a thread celebrating a Hillary endorsement recieved thumbs up and celebration while any reference to Bernie is usually met with a threat of a ban or at least the invitation to go away.

I don't and won't post primary stuff in there because it seems utterly inappropriate to do so, but anyone who says its not heavily biased is deluding themselves.

[geek tragedy]

75. the person's first post in that thread was to accuse the AA

board of being an extension of the Hillary Clinton group.

That's trolling and spoiling for a fight.

[Kentonio]

77. It seemed like a clear reference to an earlier thread

But I'm not going to go digging through their post history to be fair.

[1StrongBlackMan]

81. Funny how few Bernie supporting "regulars" to the African-American Group,

have problems there. I fact, one of the seven Hosts is a Bernie supporter (and one undecided). Makes one wonder what they are doing differently. Huh?

[1StrongBlackMan]

76. LOL ...

Because it is a well known fact, in the Bernie Group (which would make it fiction for the rest of the world), that the members, and especially the Hosts of the African-American Group "systematically" hunt down and chase out the most respectful Bernie supporters around, especially the African-American Bernie supporters ... we have a bounty system on them!

[geek tragedy]

78. I've had discussions with Bernie supporters in that group.

Don't recall them being asked to leave.

[Kentonio]

80. And there we have it. The most 'respectful' Bernie supporters.

That's exactly where the disconnect seems to come in. I've seen threads where a Bernie supporter has said something innocuous as hell and been told to GTFO in no uncertain terms. Any supportive Sanders comment is generally met with a variation of 'this isn't the place for that' yet nothing of the sort when its Hillary?

I understand the anger that some threads like that stupid as hell Stockholm Syndrome caused but we've reached a point where every Bernie supporter is treated as if they completely supported and agreed with that, and that's despicable. Supporting a candidate doesn't mean we all sign a fucking groupthink pledge to back each others actions no matter what. We're supporting a candidate who has spent his entire adult life fighting for racial equality and the idea that we're all tone deaf and racially insensitive for it is rude as hell.

End of the day its an AA forum and whatever system the mods chose to enforce there is their own business, but at least spare us the hypocricy of pretending its all fair and balanced.

[1StrongBlackMan]

83. I think you see what you wish to see ...

Posts supporting Sanders is encouraged ... Posts demanding to be told what HRC has done for Black people ... not some much. Neither are posts of some Black person being supportive of Bernie by (white) Bernie supporters ... especially, when the posters have never been to the AA Group, except to do just these things.

[Kentonio]

87. Oh I just see what I want to see do I?

So when you said..

Well, I'm thrilled that a contingent of DU ...

that celebrated, defended, and rec'd to high heaven, that Stockholm Syndrome thread ... both of them ... are aware and aghast of racism.

That was an encouragement to Sanders supporters to post there, right? Because all Bernie supporters think alike, yeah?

[1StrongBlackMan]

99. I think I see the disconnect, here ...

Your citing to my post suggests you seem to think posts about the Mayor D/Hillary C skit is a post supportive of Bernie.

[1StrongBlackMan]

35. Did you mean to post that to me?

[geek tragedy]

37. yes, actually. Listen to black people. Radical concept, I know.

It turns out that they have insight into racism that white people don't.

[Matt_in_STL]

40. Cool. Since they aren't offended I'll just consider this joke approved.

[geek tragedy]

41. you can consider it whatever you want nt

[Matt_in_STL]

43. I am also assuming you think I should ignore blacks who were offended

Since blacks here have given it the big thumbs up.

[geek tragedy]

46. you can believe whatever you want. nt

[kwassa]

127. Where are all the blacks that are offended?

Imari seems to be one, but where are the rest?

[geek tragedy]

21. this is a very thoughtful response.

I am afraid it will fall on deaf ears.

Black comedians generally can navigate the dynamic you discuss better than white comedians, and certainly better than white politicians.

[1StrongBlackMan]

42. That's because ...

{Pre-emptive Disclaimer: I am fully aware that some will feel what I am about to say is racist; but ...}

THEY'RE BLACK! We know far more about white people, than white people know about us.

[geek tragedy]

45. Exactly. nt

[1StrongBlackMan]

59. It's a survival mechanism ... for most of us.

[Hortensis]

111. Thanks for bothering to post the dialogue.

I knew it'd be like that, but didn't bother to listen so didn't realize there was a third person involved. The little "misunderstanding" is a device designed to increase emotional tension, with Hillary's line the happy release. Ha-ha.

I voted yes, but agree there are ways to do it without tossing a grenade into the workplace. Women of all colors who choose can always draw on a lifetime of effacement conditioning and "asking for permission" to take time off to go to the emergency room by giving the classic little head tilt and humbly winsome smile, and in this case a gently admiring, "Now, come on, I know [a wonderful, wise, good person like] you didn't really mean that" followed by a delightful little gurgle. I have no special talent or willingness, and even I can manage a passably acceptable version when I set myself to it.

As for the faux outrage, I think you just may be doing an injustice to the many who manage to whomp up the real thing.

[1StrongBlackMan]

114. I know ...

When I saw the skit, as posted to DU ... I thought WTF!

But, I have learned to watch the 1st video, noting the time (so I don't watch the same stuff over and over again) and watch the longest one, if I have the time ... especially if the video ends, abruptly.

when I saw the first 30 or so videos all ended (abruptly), and at the same point, with Mayor D's comment ... I knew folks were being played!

[Hortensis]

115. Ah! Of course. I'll have to keep a closer eye

on the time going in.

So many true-believer posts are so completely and predictably dishonest, and the "issues" virtually guaranteed to be petty or less than, though, that I pass on most threads and virtually all links and depend on others for the short versions.

[1StrongBlackMan]

117. LOL ... Funny ...

I pass on most threads and virtually all links and depend on others for the short versions.

Clearly ... So do all the thinking for their selves independent thinkers ... that are outraged by this.

[Hortensis]

118. Hey, I think I should be insulted.

Or should I? A quick yes or no will do.

[1StrongBlackMan]

121. Not insulted ... just careful ...

so I don't have to insult you!

[Hortensis]

124. Ouch. Yet, if being careful means

I have to actually wade through the GD-P slough instead of glancing out over it as I pass by? I think I'll have to just take my chances. A kindly pay-attention whack upside the head will be taken in the spirit if it comes to it.

[1StrongBlackMan]

129. LOL ... it'll just be an ally tap!

[Hortensis]

136. The whack-upside was what I gave myself after not

taking time to realize what I had agreed with. I deserved it, but with a little heads-up from a friend it wouldn't have taken me a full day to get it off the screen.

[LexVegas]

6. Your concern is noted. nt

[geek tragedy]

7. you could have looked at the giant pile of fucks

not being given by the people on whose behalf you were purported to be outraged as a clue.

But, no, this was all about partisan politics, not about principles, and you're not fooling anyone who isn't deep inside the Bernie Bubble.

Oh, and the fact that y'all used it to attack Clinton instead of, you know, the guy who actually said the words that y'all supposedly found so offensive speaks volumes.

[Nye Bevan]

8. If a white guy at work said "CP time" and a black guy who was there expressed discomfort,

I might try to defuse the situation by interpreting "CP time" as something benign. What I'm not going to do is give the white guy a lecture about racism when there is a black guy right there.

[Matt_in_STL]

11. If a black guy is not present, who determines if it is racist or not?

[1StrongBlackMan]

44. Just stop ... It is clear that you have read a word I have written.

[1StrongBlackMan]

16. What about if ...

If a white guy at work said "CP time" and a black guy who was there expressed discomfort, and the other white person looks to the Black person and explains CP Time is "Crap Properly Time" and the initial speaker nods (as to the meaning)?

[Lars39]

82. And you'd both rightly be hauled in to HR

[Cheese Sandwich]

12. Depends on the situation

In this situation let's be clear about what is happening. Clinton is using de Blasio as a human shield and de Blasio is using his wife as a human shield.

[whatchamacallit]

13. You are to intuit the 'right thing' moment to moment and act accordingly

or something. Got it?

[polly7]

15. And, good for you.

Members here do not speak for all others, I've seen many black people on twitter who are more than a little disgusted by it. If it strikes you as being offensive to even one other human being - you have a full right to speak out.

If some weren't offended by it, that's fine, too.

[1StrongBlackMan]

19. I wonder if those Black people on twitter have seen the entire skit ...

or are relying on just the clip going around the internet (and word of mouth)?

[polly7]

20. Yeah ............... they did.

They're not stupid and have been paying very close attention to both campaigns.

No need for your 'concern' there.

[1StrongBlackMan]

24. How do you know they saw the whole clip ...

when it is clear that most commenting here, have not?

[polly7]

26. Because they fucking said they did! That's how. nt.

[1StrongBlackMan]

47. LOL. Of course they did! LOL

[polly7]

48. Are you calling them liars?

Wow .......... dismissing other voices because yours is so much more important. It's not the OP here who has a problem with standing up for others, it's your need to push the fake belief that you speak for all black people out there that minimizes your 'concern'.

[1StrongBlackMan]

54. Not them.

(Note to jury: Before you vote to hide ... Do you really believe that random twitter users told this DUer that they saw the whole skit?)

[polly7]

55. Oh! Well then I guess you need to look in a mirror for the real liar. nt.

[1StrongBlackMan]

56. LOL ... I'm not the person that said people told you they saw the entire skit.

[polly7]

58. Wtf is your problem??

I follow people on twitter ........... some, who happen to be black and didn't appreciate the stupid 'joke'. YES, they watched the entire skit, according to what they wrote and the replies many made to them.

'LOL'. I'm not the one assuming to speak for every person on the internet as to what they feel about what they see.

Seriously, what IS your problem?

[ibegurpard]

61. His problem

Is that he is a self-appointed spokesperson for people of color and doesn't like it when people of color express opinions that run contrary to his political narrative.

[polly7]

63. Exactly.

If their real names weren't on their accounts and I wasn't afraid of anyone here stalking them to tell them how wrong they are, I'd post screenshots. So ridiculous.

[1StrongBlackMan]

67. Of course you would, Polly.

[polly7]

70. Oh definitely, but I have a feeling they'd get a quick visit from you.

Apart from valuing their privacy, and information that's really none of your concern.

Mr. fucking know-it-all.

[1StrongBlackMan]

66. Yes ... That's exactly my problem ... that, ...

and white people telling me and other Black people the what is and isn't of racism.

[Prism]

89. Got it one

The community is not a monolith.

But not for lack of trying on his account.

[1StrongBlackMan]

64. Sure, Polly ... Sure, they did.

[polly7]

65. Sure they did. And .......... I don't believe one fucking word you say. About anything. nt.

[1StrongBlackMan]

69. You seem angry.

[polly7]

71. You seem dense. nt.

[1StrongBlackMan]

84. Do you really wish to take it there?

[polly7]

86. You took it there long ago. nt.

[1StrongBlackMan]

90. The projection is strong in you, polly.

[polly7]

91. Your alert failed, and now you're just making me tired. nt.

[1StrongBlackMan]

95. More of your fictions? I did not alert.

[polly7]

101. Nah. No fiction. Try again, I'm sure you'll get one. nt.

[1StrongBlackMan]

106. Okay ... I was being polite. Another lie, then.

[polly7]

107. The only 'lies' here are yours. Check that mirror ............. yet again.

Sooooo fucking angry that you're wrong to claim to know what every other person is offended over. What kind of arrogance does that take, and who are you to dismiss the feelings of any other person? I suggest you get over your own sense of power - when it comes to the beliefs of all others - you don't have it.

[1StrongBlackMan]

110. Okay ... LOL and Okay.

[ibegurpard]

22. I'm sure they can speak for themselves

And don't need the DU gatekeepers of POC opinion to speak for them.

[1StrongBlackMan]

88. Did you mean to post that to me? I'm not speaking for ...

anyone. Nor, am I the one passing on the unbelievable story that Black people on twitter told her that have saw the entire skit.

[polly7]

93. Why are you lying?

I said "I follow people on twitter, some of whom happen to be black, who stated that they didn't appreciate the 'joke'" and that many of the replies to them stated the same. Why is it so shocking to you that not everyone appreciates being used for political reasons?

What is unbelievable is thinking you speak for all black people ........... or anyone but yourself, really.

[1StrongBlackMan]

96. I think this will settle the issue of who the liar is ...

You said:

15. And, good for you. Members here do not speak for all others, I've seen many black people on twitter who are more than a little disgusted by it. If it strikes you as being offensive to even one other human being - you have a full right to speak out.

If some weren't offended by it, that's fine, too.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1722287

That is true. Then, I asked:

I wonder if those Black people on twitter have seen the entire skit ...

or are relying on just the clip going around the internet (and word of mouth)?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1722315

And then you said:

20. Yeah ............... they did.

They're not stupid and have been paying very close attention to both campaigns.

No need for your 'concern' there.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1722325

And I asked:

24. How do you know they saw the whole clip ...
when it is clear that most commenting here, have not?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1722358

And then, you told this unbelievable and unnecessary lie:

26. Because they fucking said they did! That's how. nt.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1722363

Now, why you would feel the need to tell such an unbelievable and unnecessary lie ... opens up a series of lines of pondering.

[polly7]

97. Sorry. Huge fail.

They said they did, I read it, I read the replies ... I even responded to some who I've gotten to know slightly, and I couldn't give one single fuck what you think about how they feel, I feel, or anything else.

Unbelievable and unnecessary lie ??? I think you're getting tired or something. Maybe go have a nap.

(and check out that mirror again).

[1StrongBlackMan]

98. Of course they did.

[polly7]

100. Yeah ......... fortunately, not everyone is a clone of you.

Most people have minds of their own - they're allowed to think as they please, be offended as they please and not be bothered about it one single, tiny bit.

Suck it up.

Life goes on.

[1StrongBlackMan]

102. How do you get to that from anything I have posted in this thread?

This is getting just weird.

[polly7]

103. Better things to do than trying to figure out your argle bargle.

Yeah, it was weird - all of it.

[1StrongBlackMan]

105. I'm sure you do.

[polly7]

108. And I'm sure you don't. nt.

[whatchamacallit]

23. You saying they're low information?

[1StrongBlackMan]

94. I'm asking whether they saw the entire skit or whether they ...

only saw what most have seen on-line ... the clip that cut off right before HRC said "Cautious Politician Time."

But what a cute attempt you make.

[giftedgirl77]

17. You can raise concern but when you are told by POC that you are

way off base then you should probably take the advice instead of continuing with your Faux Outrage.

[polly7]

25. People here don't speak for all others.

As evidenced all over the net.

[giftedgirl77]

27. It's not about speaking for everyone, it's about ppl not understanding

our culture & instead of actually listening & trying to understand they use it for nonsense.

[polly7]

31. Many differing opinions and things are tolerated and appreciated/not appreciated

in every culture.

Instead of insulting people for not 'learning' it all from the experts here bent on protecting their chosen candidate at all costs maybe you could grant that individual human beings are what makes up a culture and they DON'T all share your views on this or anything else.

[Tarc]

28. What happens when the race/ethnicity/whatever you purport to be defending

doesn't seem to think it's a big deal?

[1StrongBlackMan]

50. It doesn't matter ... they are the final arbitrators of what is and isn't ...

which seems to have taken on an additional consideration ... does my defense advance my agenda/cause that is completely unrelated to my purported defense.

[ScreamingMeemie]

29. DU is not the workplace, and this is not what it appears to be.

So, I'll pass. I am sickened at how race and gender have been reduced to mere playing cards by those involved in this election process.

[one_voice]

34. whatever.

y'all didn't give a flying shit when the black folks in the south were called low information voters, were compared to slave/masters, were told they didn't matter etc. Ya, didn't care about the continued use of Stockholm Syndrome--even after you were told how hurtful it was, you didn't care when black folks that supported Hillary were compared to women who stayed in an abusive relationship.

But this..this, offends you to the point we need 150 threads with polls even. This needs repeated explanations, fainting couches & some pearls to clutch. Maybe march on Washington and soe congressional hearings.

How many threads were started about this mayor talking to his son about being a black man in NYC--in America. I remember that story. I remember the back lash against him too.

GTFOH with this.

**to the ones that did speak up against my examples, obviously you're not included. I know there were some.

[zappaman]

49. Well said.

[1StrongBlackMan]

52. Perfect ...

**to the ones that did speak up against my examples, obviously you're not included. I know there were some.

But these are not they.

[Bobbie Jo]

57. This.

Yes, indeed.

[PeaceNikki]

79. Thank you for this.

[jcgoldie]

85. Well said. nt

[JTFrog]

112. + infinity. n/t

[BillZBubb]

128. I get it, Hillary gets a pass on racism because some Bernie supporters said bad things!

Wow. That some real logic there.

[Bobbie Jo]

132. No, you don't "get it" at all.

if that is your takeaway.

Talk about twisted logic.

[BillZBubb]

133. Yeah, I did. Bottom line: Hillary gets a pass.

[Bobbie Jo]

134. Woooosh

No, you really don't. You continue to demonstrate it with each post.

Your "bottom line" one-liners is all you have to offer here.

Not playing this uhuh - nut uh game. one_voice and others have described what we have here. That you don't see it at this point is unsurprising, frankly.

[In_The_Wind]

135. Indeed

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:19 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

[QC]

38. Other: You should do whatever benefits Hillary.

That's simple enough.

[Capt. Obvious]

51. You should start a Diversity Day

Full episode that wasn't some guy filming his tv.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2jjaa8

[Hiraeth]

92. actually, the more I think about this, it was a back handed slap AGAINST Hillary =

CP=Cautious Politician=de Blasio=cautiously taking his time to ENDORSE Bernie for fear of Hillary's wrath.

yep.

that's the ticket.

Signed,
Hiraeth: The Spin Doctor

[basselope]

104. Your choices don't match your post.

"For example, if a colleague at work tells a joke about "colored people time", I think I ought to speak up and let that colleague know that such jokes are not appropriate. "

If a colleague at work tells a joke about colored people time, yes you ought to speak up and let THAT colleague know that YOU BELIEVE such jokes an not appropriate.

However, you shouldn't necessarily go to your supervisor and turn that person in or publicly shame that person for that.


WE (and I mean the royal WE here) need to learn to tell the difference between a joke told in poor taste and full on racism, b/c there IS a difference and unfortunately, this becomes a case of crying wolf.

If you scream bloody murder every time someone tells a joke of which you don't approve, people STOP LISTENING when you point out instances of full on RACISM, because they have already dismissed you.

[Warren Stupidity]

113. Well I guess there are other alternatives.

there is a choice for that.

[Rebkeh]

116. I voted with the majority but ...

I think in the case of the election, it may be better to let POC have the mic, and follow their lead.

Whitesplaining is something that happens a lot and it often is a legitimate concern.

It smells like a set up to me so.. leave it for other POC to counter, though I think if you know someone well enough, it's fine. Online it's a hard call to make.

For the record, I found the skit disgusting.

[Warren DeMontague]

119. depends. Was it Clinton or one of her allies who did it?

They get a pass, because reasons.

[MuseRider]

126. Why would you not speak up?

It is the right thing to do or has that changed?

Boy is it going to be hard if you have to stop sticking up against bigotry and racism. Not sure I can do that.

[kwassa]

130. Your false analogy was duly noted, as well. A phony poll if ever there was one.

This is not a colleague at work, this is a comedy event whose history is to be outrageous. Your attempting to place it in a work setting is dishonest manipulation, and nothing more.

CPT is not an expression that black people find racist. There have been many posts right here attesting to that.

[Autumn]

131. I am absolutely loving some of the votes in your poll, I couldn't pick the option I wanted to

pick because some people are just so adorable.