2016 Postmortem
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The Cult of Bernie: How Blind Adoration Has Masked One of America's Most Deceitful Presidential Campaigns
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This election season, many people have wanted to trust Bernie Sanders. They have wanted to trust him because he seems genuine. Like a happy grandfather who would sit in a rocking chair and would bounce a grandchild on his knee... Yet the true Bernie Sanders is proving himself to be one of the most deceitful and dishonest presidential candidates we've ever had.
And the media is to blame. They needed a horse race and to do that they chose not to vet Bernie Sanders to keep up his likeable image. They embraced him when he appeared on Saturday Night Live. They covered his record-breaking rallies, failing to mention that these rallies took place in college towns with thousands of impressionable first-time voters. They brushed off any missteps by the campaign with an aw-shucks mentality. They created narratives that favored the campaign and adjusted the expectations for each primary or caucus accordingly. They hyped up his wins and downplayed his losses. They gave him softball interview questions on the Sunday morning shows. They did all this while ignoring the fact that Hillary Clinton has never trailed in the Democratic primary and that she has built up a lead that has been greater than Barack Obama's ever was during the 2008 primary. The media did all this in an effort to protect Bernie Sanders and to present the illusion that he was a viable candidate for president.
But the truth hurts. Bernie Sanders' campaign has been malicious. Despite promising to run a clean campaign, it has been one of the dirtiest and most deceitful campaigns our country has ever seen. The evidence has been right there all along, but our media has been complacent in pretending that it has not been happening. Just look at where the Sanders campaign is now. Sanders constantly attacks Clinton from Wall Street to big banks to her Goldman Sachs transcripts to her campaign contributions. Not a day goes by where Sanders isn't doing the bidding for Karl Rove. In fact, it's gotten to be such a part of the culture of his campaign that Sanders is now attacking Clinton based on things he thinks might be true. We saw this with his recent claim that Hillary Clinton was "not qualified" to be president, which was based on his errant interpretation of a Washington Post article for which he simply skimmed the headline and nothing more. By this point, practically nothing is off limits.
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For some reason, Bernie Sanders feels entitled to be the presidential nominee for the Democratic Party and feels that everyone should support him. Maybe it's because he's a White male from a rural state. Maybe it's because he feels people should choose him over a woman. If for whatever reason people choose not to support Sanders, they then become part of what Sanders has termed the dreaded "establishment" of Washington, D.C. This has led to Sanders vilifying any group or individual who doesn't endorse him and his zealous supporters have taken it upon themselves to then go and attack those individuals or groups. We've seen online hoards of Bernie Sanders supporters attack anyone from civil rights icons John Lewis and Dolores Huerta to "establishment" organizations such as Planned Parenthood and The Human Rights Campaign to even creating "hit lists" for superdelegates and typical run-of-the-mill Twitter users who just happen to support Hillary Clinton.
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http://www.thepeoplesview.net/main/2016/4/11/how-bernie-sanders-is-running-one-of-the-most-deceitful-campaigns-in-modern-political-history
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)And despite all of Bernie's broken promises, he is still held up for adoration by his followers with a scary religious devotion.
This campaign has sullied Sanders reputation forever.
artyteacher
(598 posts)redstateblues
(10,565 posts)They are in it for the $$-they will get lucrative gigs after the Bernie phenomenon passes
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)Bill USA
(6,436 posts)During Sunday nights Democratic debate, the Republican National Committee made the unusual move of sending no fewer than four real-time e-mails to reporters defending the self-described democratic socialist from attacks by Hillary Clinton or echoing his message against her. Based on their content, one could be forgiven for thinking the RNC communiques came from the Sanders campaign.
One RNC e-mail, which was titled Clintons Misleading Health Care Attack, defended the Vermont senator from what it described as the Clinton campaigns inaccurate remarks on Sanders single-payer plan, and quoted news articles that featured rebuttals of her arguments. A second message countered Clintons attacks on Sanders over gun control by pointing out her gun-friendly statements in the past. Two other e-mails sought to bolster Sanders case that Clinton is too close to Wall Street and the drug industry.
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Meanwhile, [font size="+1"]American Crossroads, a group co-founded by Karl Rove[/font], is airing an ad in Iowa bolstering a core tenet of Sanderss case against Clinton: that she has received large sums of campaign contributions from Wall Street, and therefore can't be trusted to crack down on big banks. Hillary rewarded Wall Street with a $700 billion bailout, then Wall Street made her a multi-millionaire, a narrator in the ad says. Does Iowa really want Wall Street in the White House?
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In Iowa, American Crossroads is helping Bernie Sanders by depicting Hillary Clinton as a Wall Street insider, Jack Pitney, a political science professor at Claremont McKenna College, wrote on his blog.
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Bill USA
(6,436 posts)job of exposing the lies of Fox News cable Network as well as documenting how the Corporate media aid and abet Republican Propaganda mills by treating their endless Big Lies as if they were fact.
When Republican attack someone it's a sure sign they are doing good work fighting the Grifters, Obstructors and Prostitutes in their campaign to sabotage democracy in America. (For the record, they succeeded in 2000 with the Appointment of Cheney's puppet as "president". With Barack Obama's election to the presidency in 2008 we restored out democracy to begin America's Second Democratic Era.)
basselope
(2,565 posts)The Clintonites are in full swing today.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)JonathanRackham
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anotherproletariat
(1,446 posts)As it makes sure I see them.
dchill
(38,502 posts)What do you expect them to do - sit around twiddling their thumbs until Brock sends out new smearing orders? An idle mind is the Devil's playground...
KPN
(15,646 posts)Pathetic article. Talk about projection!
Oh, and btw, this has already been posted here before.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)Triana
(22,666 posts)Same M.O.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)islandmkl
(5,275 posts)and the people weren't ready...
like the Edsel...
haikugal
(6,476 posts)artyteacher
(598 posts)BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)Her Majesty took the low road all the way through.
How soon the cult of the Hillarybots forget.
CalvinballPro
(1,019 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Most of the Millennials, Independents and disenfranchised FORMER Democrats don't care about the Party to worry if there's unity. They have either never been in the party or are leaving it in disgust.
See - I'm a bit different. I've voted for Democrats for 28 years. I told my family about this time last year that if Clinton was the nominee, I'd be leaving the party. I said this BEFORE Bernie threw his hat in the ring. I was looking at O'Malley at this time last year. I just knew I couldn't stomach Clinton. To me, she's no different than an old-school Republican.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)Bernie has actually been way too easy on Hillary. He could have jumped on the email problems or the Clinton Foundation but hasn't gone there. He should have, but he hasn't.
jillan
(39,451 posts)life and you care calling me a cult follower? Based on someone's BLOG?
Shame on you for displaying so much pure HATRED to the millions of people that support Bernie.
SocialLibFiscalCon
(92 posts)I am a well educated, 49 yr old man who has voted D all my life but consider myself an independent because both parties are beholden to the same corporate masters, and Not the American people.
To be mindlessly accused of being a cult follower is insulting.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Trying to formulate a new party that doesn't include any liberal voters or liberal ideas
LexVegas
(6,067 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)LexVegas
(6,067 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)who voted for her rather than vote for Sanders...soon to beart him like a drum in New York.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)On sale everywhere, and will kill you in the end too.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)Last edited Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:44 PM - Edit history (3)
I was referring to the ex (what is it 3 or 2 pseudonym?) Ex DU Troll that writes that blog and not the Brock Puppets working the social media on this site and elsewhere that have run out of material, I felt that needed clarification as I was responding to a post referring actually to the latter.
[center]Rare sighting of a brockpuppet in the wild[/center]
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Remember people, because he can legally coordinate directly with the Clinton campaign only as long as he just uses the internet to work her campaign, herds of these things have been released into the wild
question everything
(47,486 posts)This blog is devoted to examining issues from a liberal perspective, on factual bases and on fair analysis. This site is also deeply zealous about liberal Democratic activism. At The People's View, we are committed to giving readers as much additional resources (mostly via links) as possible to educate as well as activate. The People's View is also a public policy blog for reasoned debate and discussion.
http://www.thepeoplesview.net/about/
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As I am reading their goal I realize that it is the exact opposite of Sanders supporters here. Nothing fair and, of course, not much of a Democrat.
LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)he ANYTHING but a liberal.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)And done - bonus hide silly poster.
Bye!
Vincardog
(20,234 posts)Buddyblazon
(3,014 posts)you yourself are actually guilty of.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)It's what's for dinner.
mmonk
(52,589 posts)when nobody stepped up. To think the Clintons represent progressivism is the cult, the cult of personality.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)He has run "one of the dirtiest and most deceitful campaigns our country has ever seen" has a Kindergarten level knowledge of either history or current events, and has certainly not been paying attention to tyhe current election cycle.
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jillan
(39,451 posts)the nominee and the whining begins on why us CULT FOLLOWS may not back Hillary in the GE.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)so little time...
polly7
(20,582 posts)question everything
(47,486 posts)Facts are still the same: the media - right and left - ignores Sanders. Only recently they started tiptoeing around the income tax return and just barely.
polly7
(20,582 posts)paying him not to speak out about all those things he has while in the senate? If so ......... he's in deep shit. I saw the videos, he really gave a lot of people hell for their greed and opposition to passing bills that would help so many. Maybe he's just fearing for his life because of it? Who knows?
question everything
(47,486 posts)We've seen it since biblical time - if you care to use this as a resource..
But we are talking about governing. About the chief executive who has to work with plans that can be implemented - approved by congress? - and can keep this country with all 300 million plus residents on an even keel.
Yes, many say that they agree with him raising important issues. But he has yet to show how he plan to implement them.
And, yes, thinking that he can get away with not showing his income tax is part of the suspicion. Claiming itemized deductions of $53 K with no explanation, on an income of $209,000 which is way beyond the normal range for this income just adds to the notion that he has no idea what he is doing and what he is talking about.
The good old "talk is cheap."
morningfog
(18,115 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)floriduck
(2,262 posts)But it's one person's distorted view representing one(hopefully) vote. So I'll discount it like the other attacks from Hillary's lapdogs. Either the author just moved to the USA or was on certain pharmaceuticals most of the time, but this doesn't even inch close to the 2008 campaign between Hillary and the Fairy Tale who wore gear similar to certain northern African countries, as was implied by 2008 Clinton lapdogs.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Congrats!
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)Come on. Dry this one out and you could fertilize the lawn.
And I have another one to hide.
TheSarcastinator
(854 posts)He's a wizard, I tell you, a wizard.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)on social media announcing a rally with a day's notice and all those people are like zombies and come without knowing why. . . . . you've almost cracked the code!!!
Genius I tell ya
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)Sen. Hillary Clinton has been involved with the Family since 1993 when, as first lady, she joined a White House prayer circle for political wives. Clinton has also sought spiritual counseling from the current head of the Family, Doug Coe. Sharlet argues that Clinton's longtime association with the Family has helped her forge working relationships with powerful religious conservatives such as Family member and anti-abortion crusader Sen. Sam Brownback of Kansas.
The Family nurtures the next generation of prayer warriors in suburban dormitories. Sharlet spent nearly a month living at Ivanwald, a dormitory in Virginia where sons of the Family are sent to immerse themselves in Jesus and clean the toilets of congressmen and senators.
The Family also runs a house on C Street in Washington, D.C. The C Street Center has housed a number of federal legislators, including Sen. John Ensign of Nevada. Residents allege that the center is just a cheap place to live, but as an Ivanwald brother, Sharlet saw firsthand that the center is a religious community. As far as the IRS is concerned, the C Street Center is a church.
Members will tell you that the Family is just a group of friends. As Sharlet discovered, 600 boxes of documents at the Billy Graham Center Archives tell a different story.
AlterNet writer Lindsay Beyerstein recently sat down with Jeff Sharlet at a Brooklyn coffee shop to discuss the Family.
Lindsay Beyerstein What is the Family?
Jeff Sharlet: It's an international network of evangelical activists in government, military and business. The Family is dedicated to this idea that Christianity has gotten it all wrong for two thousand years by focusing on the poor, the suffering and the weak.
The Family says that instead, what Christians should do is minister to the up-and-out -- as opposed to the down-and-out -- to those that are already powerful. Because if they can win those people for Christ, they win the whole deal. That's what this network is dedicated to. It includes nonprofit organizations, it includes think tanks, it includes various ministries.
Lindsay Beyerstein: Where did they get the idea that they should be ministering to the up-and-out? There doesn't seem to be a lot basis in Christianity for that view.
Jeff Sharlet: Two places. The founder of the Family, Abraham Vereide, would describe it as his "new revelation" that came to him in the middle of the night, very literally: in a vision from God in 1935 in response to the Great Depression and, more particularly, to a series of very successful labor strikes that he saw as challenging God's sovereignty. So, God comes and gives him this new revelation to say, "This is what I really meant"...
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840high
(17,196 posts)hollysmom
(5,946 posts)heh there is actually a site to help you figure it out!
Heavy Caveat: Were loathed to consider thepeoplesview.net (TPV) real, because its mostly opinion, but it is a site that makes their opinions based on data theyve culled. But it makes no attempt to hide its liberal slant.
Apparently it has been around since 2008
The question-marks:
Does TPV ignore other sources to help slant their opinions?
And even this tidbit, deeply zealous about liberal activism, creates not so little dissent among fellow Leftists. In 2011, TPV posted the article A Left Wing Hierarchy, which seemed to try to pigeonhole Obama-objectors on the Left into neat categories, complete with training on how to handle arguments with them. Some left-leaning bloggers took exception to it.
Our initial gut-reaction is to consider suspect everything that you read at TPV. Information there is likely okay to repost and share, but be ready to suffer through the comments youll likely get, mostly rebuking whatever claim your shared article posits.
[link:http://realorsatire.com/thepeoplesview-net/|
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)He is the BEST choice. It has nothing to do with him being male. What a sexist post. The ones who support Hillary Riding Coattails is telling us Bernie is dishonest.
The one who BUYS her support is the joke of the century. She is an embarrassment for women everywhere. She ONLY got where she is due to riding coattails. She is not an accomplished woman by any means. She's a loser and so is her family.
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)get a clue into something like reality and quit throwing accusations at the other side that could easily be demonstrated to apply to their side and their candidate more?
Being an adult means taking responsibility.
Beowulf
(761 posts)Neoliberal Democrats would expend half the energy they spend on putting progressives down against republicans.
Vinca
(50,276 posts)I happen to believe what Bernie believes and that's why I support him. It's no more a cult than the formerly pro-Medicare for all people here who now support Hillary and argue against it.
me b zola
(19,053 posts)One of the stupidest articles I have read in a while. You should be embarrassed.
ladjf
(17,320 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)For one blind devotion more aptly describes people who say they are for social justice on one hand, but love the woman who loves telling racist jokes.
Secondly yes people can amass in large numbers and do scary things in the name of their leader or whatever but that is still not the definition of cult. It's more properly known as nationalism. But, guess who is promoting my party right or wrong memes. Guess who will try to keep the status quo with an iron fist, I will clue you it isn't Bernie.
And lastly the OP handle is very funny. In light of the fact that this OP isn't about questioning anything. People who are questioning bring facts to the table not moronic opinion pieces.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)TheSarcastinator
(854 posts)The Clinton Cult knows Her Majesty's candidacy is in deep trouble, whether they choose to admit it to themselves or not.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)That source would not be allowed. Can we talk about the Hillary or bust movement?
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)Think about it. It will bring a smile to your face.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)But it will certainly mark the end of Bernies campaign...whether he acknowledges or not.
frylock
(34,825 posts)berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)This is a troll post authored by a banned troll.
dchill
(38,502 posts)You are corkscrewing in for a hard landing. Watch out for that sniper fire!
randr
(12,412 posts)Who will beat the Republican. The cult of Hillary is in denial about what is going to happen once Trump gives her a pet name, starts his hateful mantra, and leaves the Clintons on the same trash heap he left the Bushes on.
Hillary's weaknesses out trump Bernies foibles. Pardon the pun.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)but he would be sliced and diced in the GE-thankfully he won't win the nomination
randr
(12,412 posts)that our opponent will lose. I am totally convinced that Hillarys' negatives, almost as high as Trumps', will only grow in a race against Trump. Bernie, on the other hand, will have the ability to draw rational Republicans and I do not think his negatives will be a distraction.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)She has the delegates and will win the nomination...I feel Bernie could not win a general but it is a moot point as he won't win a primary.
randr
(12,412 posts)In this election the winner will not be one associated with the status quo or corporate donors.
On that I would bet the farm.
adigal
(7,581 posts)Hillary, owned lock, stock and barrel
tokenlib
(4,186 posts)..total trash
Orsino
(37,428 posts)"Hillary good, Bernie bad" fails to illuminate anything.