On the topic of Hillary and personal responsibility:

[brentspeak]

If she sends and receives top-secret, classified information using a basic private internet account, then it's her underlings' fault -- not her own fault?

And if she convinces the President of the United States to idiotically topple Libya's only bulwark against rampant Islamic terrorism in that nation, thus unleashing measureless opportunities for worldwide terrorist attacks, then it's her boss' (Obama's) fault -- not her own fault?

Do I have that correct?

[FreakinDJ]

1. BWAHahah

[CalvinballPro]

2. Yes, the President is responsible for their own decisions.

"The buck stops here."

[hobbit709]

5. More like the $225,000 bucks stop there.

And she's not the President.

[CalvinballPro]

6. Yes, thank you for proving my point for me. Obama is the President; he is responsible for the

decisions he has made.

[Bettie]

9. But with regard to decisons that she made

she is not responsible because....reasons.

[CalvinballPro]

10. SecState advises the President. POTUS is still Commander-in-Chief.

How do you not get this, aside from the obvious attempt to craft some kind of "gotcha!" argument about it?

[Bettie]

12. With regard to other issues

she has claimed that she has no responsibility.

Iraq war vote: not her fault.

Email thing: Not her fault. (And in the end, I do think the email isn't a huge deal, but blaming it on others shows who she is.)

That is the point, the president is responsible for his decisions, but she's not willing to be responsible for hers, choosing to shift it to others.

[CalvinballPro]

14. She apologized for her Iraq war vote. How do you get "not her fault" from that?

And AGAIN, George W Bush was President at the time, AND Commander-in-Chief. Clinton was a Senator, one out of 100, with zero control over the armed forces. Why do you continue to act like she's been President Since Forever?? FFS!

I'm starting to realize that you're not serious about this discussion, and you're just repeating the same tired online garbage you see around DU thinking it will score you points or something.

[hobbit709]

3. And the same people that defend her hold Bernie personally responsible for everything

that happens within 500 miles of him.

[CalvinballPro]

8. Sort of like this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511720810

[dragonfly301]

4. and if she appears in a racist skit

it's diblasio's fault, and any bad bills passed by Bill (that she lobbied for) are his fault not hers.

[IdaBriggs]

7. That depends on the meaning of the word "is".

As Bill once said,

"It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'is' is. If 'is' means 'is and never has been' that's one thing - if it means 'there is none', that was a completely true statement."

If by "is ANYTHING EVER Hillary's responsibility?" then the obvious answer is "no because it IS ALWAYS someone else's fault."

Unless you have a minimum of half a working brIn cell, in which case she sounds like a petulant child who needs to go write an essay about the importance of not lying which lesson she apparently missed in elementary school - or learned better in law school (your pick).

Is that clear now?

[FlatBaroque]

11. Rules of Clintonism - Number 7.

If things go well, it's because Her was involved
If things do not go well, it is because someone besides Her was involved and it was their fault.

[felix_numinous]

13. Responsibility

is for little people, we are the beasts of burden. Money and power buy innocence and virtue, get with the program. Today's meme is Sanders' supporters are a cult, pass it on.

[noiretextatique]

15. Yes...she's ever accountable for anything

Even her own words and actions.