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gabeana

(3,166 posts)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:26 PM Apr 2016

So emily's list is not endorsing a liberal Latina

Last edited Wed Apr 13, 2016, 04:27 PM - Edit history (1)

wow just wow, got an email from the Sanders campaign on this asking to split donations between Sanders and Flores

edited to take out never should of put incumbent in post

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So emily's list is not endorsing a liberal Latina (Original Post) gabeana Apr 2016 OP
They are endorsing Susie Lee. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #1
Notice the date... It came after Susie Lee endorsed Clinton and after Lucy Flores endorsed Sanders.. GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #3
Your connection is weak. I really wouldn't call that research. lol. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #4
Not a problem, confused why EMILY's list created an initiative in 2016 to get Latinas in Congress GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #6
"confused why EMILY's list created an initiative in 2016 to get Latinas in Congress" NCTraveler Apr 2016 #7
What? GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #9
Loving how you have to define this in order to make your argument work. It's flat out great. nt. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #10
They ORIGINALLY endorsed her & then withdrew it after Lucy endorsed Bernie. They gave it to her & jillan Apr 2016 #21
Wow, and I used to have so much respect for Emily's List. senz Apr 2016 #31
On what date did EMILY's list endorse her? Freddie Stubbs Apr 2016 #46
So disprove it? gabeana Apr 2016 #50
That is simply funny my busy friend. Nt NCTraveler Apr 2016 #55
you can't I guess gabeana Apr 2016 #56
Perhaps because she lost her last election by a landslide Freddie Stubbs Apr 2016 #45
It also happened after Flores' disastrous campaign for Lt. Governor Freddie Stubbs Apr 2016 #43
if you got to ask gabeana Apr 2016 #5
If I have to ask what their problem is with Lee? Really. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #8
Not with Susie per say gabeana Apr 2016 #48
This is one of the most strange arguments I have seen put forth here. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #53
explain why then gabeana Apr 2016 #58
I'm still waiting gabeana Apr 2016 #59
This reason NWCorona Apr 2016 #2
Flores lost some counties in her district by 60% in the last election. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #11
Flores was also the first Latina to be elected to the State Assembly... GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #13
Please show me where I denegrated that accomplishment? NCTraveler Apr 2016 #14
You are trying to user her failed bid for the Senate... GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #15
Again, show me where I denegrated her accomplishment. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #18
Are you implying I'm racist.... GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #23
That is your third lie in this very short conversation. I have not implied you are a racist. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #27
You implied Lucy did not deserve to be endorsed again because she was a loser in her previous race. GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #29
Correct. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #30
If you feel that way then why are you okay with all the organizations that endorsed Clinton... GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #33
Address your blatantly dishonest claims about me and we can move the conversation forward. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #38
Do you often blame losses by a gubernatorial candidate on their running mate? ieoeja Apr 2016 #35
Are you blind gabeana Apr 2016 #49
I can see very well, thanks for your concern. Nt NCTraveler Apr 2016 #54
Sanders supporters aren't having much luck deploying race as a divisive weapon lately. CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #20
Agree. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #24
They picked a rich white woman that azmom Apr 2016 #12
That's telling! Beowulf Apr 2016 #16
Which "incumbent Latina" are they not endorsing? Freddie Stubbs Apr 2016 #17
Lucy Flores. jillan Apr 2016 #19
I am confused that she is described as an 'incumbent' what office does she currently hold? Freddie Stubbs Apr 2016 #22
Do you not use google? Or Bing? Or Yahoo? She was a member of the state assembly & was endorsed jillan Apr 2016 #25
"Incumbent" means "currently serving in office." Flores is NOT. CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #28
I think an incumbent also means that you hold the office you're currently running for, too. LisaM Apr 2016 #34
Good point. i.e., A sitting governor running for senator is not the incumbent senator. nt CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #39
Please google, bing, or yahoo the meaning of the word incumbent. Thanks. nt. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #32
Um, that was a link to download Google Chrome MadBadger Apr 2016 #47
Only if you lost all or some of the 25 floppy discs PeaceNikki Apr 2016 #60
None. The OP has their facts confused, or something. CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #26
"Did not win" is a nice way of saying that the got her opponent mopped the floor with her Freddie Stubbs Apr 2016 #40
I'm trying to be sensitive to the Bernie-biased jury system. You never know what someone will take CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #41
I am so glad the Bernie campaign is on top of this, supporting Flores. senz Apr 2016 #36
Flores is not the incumbent. LisaM Apr 2016 #37
Facts don't matter when you are bashing "The Establishment" Freddie Stubbs Apr 2016 #42
The whole thing is so knee jerk it makes me cross. LisaM Apr 2016 #44
And so-called DU 'Democrats' who want to bash our leading candidate. It's pathetic. randome Apr 2016 #51
Flores is not an incumbant. JI7 Apr 2016 #52
Emily's List endorsements are nice for the money they give the candidate dragonfly301 Apr 2016 #57
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
1. They are endorsing Susie Lee.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:27 PM
Apr 2016

What exactly is your problem with their endorsement of Susie Lee?

EMILY’s List Endorses Susie Lee for Congress in Nevada’s Fourth Congressional District

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today EMILY’s List, the nation’s largest resource for women in politics, endorsed Susie Lee, who’s running to represent Nevada’s Fourth Congressional District and continue her lifelong fight for women and families.

“Susie Lee is an experienced problem solver and a powerful advocate for Nevada women and families,” said Stephanie Schriock, president of EMILY's List. “As one of eight children raised in a working-class family, Susie knows that hardworking people all too often struggle to make ends meet. She is deeply committed to serving the most vulnerable Nevadans because she saw firsthand that community support can help disadvantaged children overcome barriers to opportunity. The stakes are high for women and families in this swing district, and the EMILY’s List community of over three million members is excited to endorse Susie’s strong campaign to move Nevada forward.”

Susie Lee grew up one of eight children in a working class family that often struggled to make ends meet on her veteran father’s single income. She worked several jobs, took out loans, and earned scholarships to pay her way through college and graduate school. Susie counted on her teachers, coaches, and other mentors in her community who believed in her and gave her the support she needed to achieve her academic goals, and she is deeply committed to connecting children with the resources they need to have a fair shot. After making Las Vegas her home over twenty years ago, she quickly set out to make a difference in the lives of women and families in her community. Susie served as a campaign policy advisor to the first woman elected mayor in Las Vegas history, Jan Laverty Jones, and was the founding executive director of a crisis intervention program serving women and families experiencing homelessness. She served as founding director of the After-School All-Stars, an organization that provides thousands of Nevada children with afterschool activities and enrichment programs. Today Susie leads Communities In Schools of Nevada as president of the board, working tirelessly to increase the high school graduation rate by connecting at-risk youth with the personal support and resources they need to succeed. She lives in Las Vegas with her husband Dan and two children Cody and Nevada, and from leading her daughter’s Girl Scout troop to advocating for tens of thousands of Nevada students, she is unwavering in her commitment to service. When elected to Congress, Susie will fight to increase educational and economic opportunities for all of Nevada’s working families.

When Susie was growing up, she learned firsthand what it's like for a family to live paycheck to paycheck – and she understands that Nevada’s working families need their elected leaders to help get our economy working for all of us. When elected, she will advocate for policies that will grow the middle class and increase opportunities for women and families to get ahead. Susie understands that families and communities are stronger when women succeed in the workplace, and when elected she will fight for policies aimed at ending gender discrimination in pay, implementing paid family and medical leave, and increasing the minimum wage. Susie knows from personal experience that teachers and mentors can help disadvantaged children overcome barriers to opportunity. Under her leadership, Communities in Schools of Nevada serves 58,000 students in 56 schools, ensuring there are caring adults providing personal support to children who are at risk of dropping out. “We all have a responsibility to help our young people have the highest level of opportunities,” she has said. In the last school year, students in the program graduated on time at a rate 25 percentage points above the Nevada state average. When elected she will work tirelessly to move Nevada forward for all children and families.


http://www.emilyslist.org/news/entry/emilys-list-endorses-susie-lee-for-congress-in-nevadas-fourth-congressional


 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
3. Notice the date... It came after Susie Lee endorsed Clinton and after Lucy Flores endorsed Sanders..
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:32 PM
Apr 2016

#IDidMyResearch.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
4. Your connection is weak. I really wouldn't call that research. lol.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:33 PM
Apr 2016

What is your problem with Susie Lee?

This research tells a lot more than what you are bringing to the table.

http://www.ourcampaigns.com/RaceDetail.html?RaceID=790611

When all one dreams about is Sanders, Sanders then rules every aspect of ones worldview.

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
6. Not a problem, confused why EMILY's list created an initiative in 2016 to get Latinas in Congress
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:35 PM
Apr 2016

And then did not endorse a Latina when the option was available. One they had endorsed in the past and one who was the first Latina successful in getting elected to the State Assembly.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
7. "confused why EMILY's list created an initiative in 2016 to get Latinas in Congress"
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:36 PM
Apr 2016

Because they are a kick ass organization.

"And then did not endorse a Latina when the option was available."

That is actually an easily disprovable statement by you. Even with respect to Flores herself. At least try.

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
9. What?
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:40 PM
Apr 2016

It is fact they did not endorse Lucy Flores for her Congress bid for 2016 which is the year that this Latina initiative is for.

Susie Lee is a white woman so it doesn't make sense why they endorsed her over Lucy Flores.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
21. They ORIGINALLY endorsed her & then withdrew it after Lucy endorsed Bernie. They gave it to her &
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:02 PM
Apr 2016

then took it away.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
31. Wow, and I used to have so much respect for Emily's List.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:15 PM
Apr 2016

It seems like everything a certain person touches becomes corrupted. She has a strange kind of "Midas touch" -- for corruption.

Makes me sick.

Freddie Stubbs

(29,853 posts)
43. It also happened after Flores' disastrous campaign for Lt. Governor
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:34 PM
Apr 2016

Perhaps they where not that impressed with her campaigning.

gabeana

(3,166 posts)
5. if you got to ask
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:34 PM
Apr 2016

then your not being serious
it is because she endorsed Sanders, not on the ability of Flores

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
8. If I have to ask what their problem is with Lee? Really.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:37 PM
Apr 2016

Tell me, what is your problem with Susie Lee?

gabeana

(3,166 posts)
48. Not with Susie per say
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 04:09 PM
Apr 2016

but when they write a paper saying they want to support more Latinas, and there is a Latina running for office, has been elected to office, ran for state wide office before, and then Emily list endorses a white women over a women of color

I think it is clear why they did it

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
11. Flores lost some counties in her district by 60% in the last election.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:48 PM
Apr 2016

Amazing what passes for discussion here. More like deflection and deception.

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
13. Flores was also the first Latina to be elected to the State Assembly...
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:52 PM
Apr 2016

It is embarrassing how you denigrate her accomplishments to fit your argument framing.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
14. Please show me where I denegrated that accomplishment?
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:54 PM
Apr 2016

That is the second time you have been dishonest in this short conversation.

Please show where I denigrated her accomplishment.

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
15. You are trying to user her failed bid for the Senate...
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:55 PM
Apr 2016

as a rationalization that she is a bad candidate therefore EMILY's list was right in not endorsing her. But the fact she is the FIRST Latina in history of Nevada to be elected to the State Assembly says otherwise.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
18. Again, show me where I denegrated her accomplishment.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:00 PM
Apr 2016

You can't because it is a lie.

At the same time, you directly denigrated Susie Lee by claiming she didn't deserve the endorsement because she is white. That is directly from you. Along with the fact you think it has something to do with Sanders. Once again, that is denigrating Susie Lee.

You cannot back up your falsehood in any way.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
27. That is your third lie in this very short conversation. I have not implied you are a racist.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:10 PM
Apr 2016

Please back up your claim that I denigrated Flores. Thanks.

"Susie Lee is a white woman so it doesn't make sense why they endorsed her over Lucy Flores." - GeorgiaPeanuts

My comment was spot on and I did not imply you were racist.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
30. Correct.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:14 PM
Apr 2016

I said losing areas in your own district by sixty points might have something to do with it.

Please back up your claim that I denigrated Flores. Thanks.

Flores and Lee are both people worthy of endorsement. You have made multiple wild false accusations.

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
33. If you feel that way then why are you okay with all the organizations that endorsed Clinton...
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:22 PM
Apr 2016

This is her 2nd attempt at the Presidency, she already failed in 2008 so why do you think it is cogent that they endorsed her when she was the loser in 2008?

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
38. Address your blatantly dishonest claims about me and we can move the conversation forward.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:28 PM
Apr 2016

Some of those lies you have now stated multiple times. You know you can't back them up in any way so you just try to move along. Really poor debating style and not worth my time.

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
35. Do you often blame losses by a gubernatorial candidate on their running mate?
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:24 PM
Apr 2016

I knew Kerry was too good of a candidate to lose in 2004. It was Edwards who lost that race!


gabeana

(3,166 posts)
49. Are you blind
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 04:23 PM
Apr 2016

you are implying because she did so bad in her statewide match up she should not be endorsed
White Americans are represented 80% on congress
Latina/o only 7.8%
Their needs to be a lot more representation of women in Congress and even more so for Women of Color

so when say your organization is going to make a concerted effort for Latina's to hold elected office, and their is a candidate that has already broke through, has experience, and then you support the white women candidate after the Latina just happens to endorse Sanders, it is not too hard to figure out why Emily's list did this

 

CalvinballPro

(1,019 posts)
20. Sanders supporters aren't having much luck deploying race as a divisive weapon lately.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:02 PM
Apr 2016

A lot of their efforts, like this one, fall flat once the details catch up to the sensationalism.

I think they really exposed themselves as frauds with the whole "super-predator" thing, and now they're the proverbial "boy who cried wolf" on this subject. (Bro who cried wolf?) No one believes the phony outrage any more, because it's clearly insincere.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
24. Agree.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:09 PM
Apr 2016

It's comical that this person is trying to claim I have denigrated Flores. I have done no such thing. I like Flores and Lee.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
25. Do you not use google? Or Bing? Or Yahoo? She was a member of the state assembly & was endorsed
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:09 PM
Apr 2016

by Emily's List. She is now running for Congress, again endorsed by Emily's List.
Until she endorsed Bernie.

Here's a link so you can download google. https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95346?hl=en

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
34. I think an incumbent also means that you hold the office you're currently running for, too.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:24 PM
Apr 2016

Not just any office!


MadBadger

(24,089 posts)
47. Um, that was a link to download Google Chrome
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:47 PM
Apr 2016

Do you have the link to install the google specifically?

 

CalvinballPro

(1,019 posts)
41. I'm trying to be sensitive to the Bernie-biased jury system. You never know what someone will take
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:30 PM
Apr 2016

offense to and shoot off an Alert over these days. If I'd said "she lost" my comment would probably already be hidden.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
36. I am so glad the Bernie campaign is on top of this, supporting Flores.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:25 PM
Apr 2016

It's been awful watching former "liberal icons" bite the dust one by one for Hillary. Planned Parenthood, the Democratic Party, Black Congressional Caucus ("leadership," not membership), Emily's List.

Corruption really is like a worm or like rust -- it eats into things, changes their character, ruins them.

But it makes me all the prouder of Elizabeth Warren for being the only Senate Democratic woman to resist the siren call of a Hillary endorsement and of the always brave Alan Grayson and Tulsi Gabbard.

I cannot even begin to imagine what a Hillary presidency would do to what's left of our country.

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
44. The whole thing is so knee jerk it makes me cross.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:36 PM
Apr 2016

EMILY's List has done an awful lot of good since the 1990s raising money for women candidates. Of course their mission is to endorse pro-choice women Democrats, but given a choice of candidates, they're likely to choose the one they think is more viable.

And I'm really, really sick of misleading headlines. I guess it's the effect of social media, online journalism, and creating clickbait, but still.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
51. And so-called DU 'Democrats' who want to bash our leading candidate. It's pathetic.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 04:27 PM
Apr 2016

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dragonfly301

(399 posts)
57. Emily's List endorsements are nice for the money they give the candidate
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 04:45 PM
Apr 2016

but they really are endorsing just because a candidate is a woman and is pro-choice. I am a woman, but I have many issues - in my district I see that Emily's List has endorsed Kathleen Matthews (Mrs. Tweetybird) she is far less progressive than Jamie Raskin so the Emily's List endorsement means very little to me. None of the candidates running for the seat are against choice and I don't need Emily's List to point out to me which one has a uterus.

The question I have for Emily's List - do they offer their endorsement to any female, pro-choice candidate that has not endorsed Clinton? I ask because Donna Edwards has rec'd their endorsement and a big chunk of change and has endorsed Hillary although her political ideology is much more aligned with Bernie. I found her endorsement odd and questioned her on fb - she did not respond but did "like" my comment.

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