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Who Should Bernie Select for His Running Mate? (Original Post) amborin Apr 2016 OP
Tulsi!! jillan Apr 2016 #1
O yeah... she is super! yourpaljoey Apr 2016 #2
/facepalm Tarc Apr 2016 #3
Why'd you put the horse behind the cart? LOL floriduck Apr 2016 #5
its a pushcart, not a pullcart. Kip Humphrey Apr 2016 #36
If it's Hillary.... Funtatlaguy Apr 2016 #7
Tulsi!!!!!!!!!! Funtatlaguy Apr 2016 #4
I would be happy with any of those three:) litlbilly Apr 2016 #6
Someone strong on foreign policy nt firebrand80 Apr 2016 #8
Hillary JonathanRackham Apr 2016 #9
benefit: party unity carolinayellowdog Apr 2016 #14
Oh hay-ell no! Lady MacBeth needs to stay away from the VP job. Myrina Apr 2016 #48
.+1 840high Apr 2016 #53
No fucking way. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #54
Elizabeth Warren felix_numinous Apr 2016 #10
Elizabeth Warren has got to be top option. Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #84
Jesse Jackson demwing Apr 2016 #11
This is a good choice. Jesse paved the way. I would like a chance to vote for that ticket. Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #81
Not only does Jesse have solid gold progressive credentials demwing Apr 2016 #89
Yeah I agree. My only concern is they are both pretty old. Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #92
I'm almost positive Bernie will pick a female VP and I'll be disappointed if he doesn't. NWCorona Apr 2016 #12
Yup, Warren would be great lagomorph777 Apr 2016 #15
That's my thinking too NWCorona Apr 2016 #19
Outside the box a little, but Kshama Sawant is excellent dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #13
After fighting a long, bruising battle with the Democratic party establishment nemo137 Apr 2016 #17
And why not? dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #22
No, but you're going to need, among other thing nemo137 Apr 2016 #33
Good points, though I disagree dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #40
Sounds like an interesting person but not eligible Retrograde Apr 2016 #74
Wow, thanks, didn't know where she was born (India)! - eom dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #75
I'd rather Sawant became mayor here in Norrin Radd Apr 2016 #87
I hope she does! - eom dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #90
Jill Stein pinebox Apr 2016 #16
I really like Jill NWCorona Apr 2016 #20
I think it would open it up even more pinebox Apr 2016 #21
That could work dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #23
Yes she did reach out to Bernie should Hillary be the nominee pinebox Apr 2016 #24
Any info on what that was about? - eom dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #25
There's been some conjecture that he could be a running mate pinebox Apr 2016 #34
Wow, thanks, verrrryyy interesting - eom dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow Apr 2016 #27
I wouldn't be too sure pinebox Apr 2016 #35
I am. He wants to win. If he doesn't win, then what? nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #42
I'm not pinebox Apr 2016 #44
Not gonna happen. She is welcome to vote for him. I would encourage all of the Greens to do so. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #58
Explain your position pinebox Apr 2016 #60
Because he is not that foolish. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #61
Good choice. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #52
An Independent and a Green as the Democratic ticket? Retrograde Apr 2016 #56
Bernie is now a Dem pinebox Apr 2016 #59
How would it be a problem? You think Democrats would stay home? Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #83
I think the party stalwarts will vote for the candidate no matter who Retrograde Apr 2016 #91
Barbara Boxer dooner Apr 2016 #18
Sadly, Boxer is for Hillary shanti Apr 2016 #64
Willie Nelson pangaia Apr 2016 #26
I didn't know there was such a thing as a Vice Senator. NuclearDem Apr 2016 #28
thread winner! DesertRat Apr 2016 #70
He'll need someone who has a lot of time and nothing to do. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #29
She more on Hillary's level Politicalboi Apr 2016 #31
Either Tulsi, Nina, or Elizabeth Politicalboi Apr 2016 #30
Nina would be great! amborin Apr 2016 #73
How about Cenk Uygur? He's loud enough, he's ambitious enough, Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #32
Jane Sanders Kalidurga Apr 2016 #38
1st question should be,"How best does Bernie want to utilize the office of VP?" Kip Humphrey Apr 2016 #39
Elizabeth Warren Peachhead22 Apr 2016 #41
Nobody, since he won't be running for President COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #43
Jan Schakowsky no_hypocrisy Apr 2016 #45
Cynthia McKinney KingFlorez Apr 2016 #46
She was one of the few in Congress with the guts to stand up to Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld. Octafish Apr 2016 #65
Elizabeth Warren TheDormouse Apr 2016 #47
FYI Tulsi Gabbard is no liberal TheDormouse Apr 2016 #49
Dare I say Elizabeth Warren? The two of them would be a formidable team. Avalux Apr 2016 #50
I would have said Russ Feingold, but ... Myrina Apr 2016 #51
I'll be fine with whomever he chooses. n/t bvf Apr 2016 #55
I still vote Tammy Baldwin, but it's too early to think about VP picks DemocraticWing Apr 2016 #57
Nina Turner please! Kentonio Apr 2016 #62
Kirsten Gillibrand Lone_Wolf Apr 2016 #63
Ron Paul SecularMotion Apr 2016 #66
Some of the anti-Hillary folks on DU appear to have plenty of time on their hands. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #67
Janet Napolitano phiddle Apr 2016 #68
Barbara Lee is someone who should be considered also. /nt think Apr 2016 #69
Yep. GreenPartyVoter Apr 2016 #88
leave Biden in place? carolinayellowdog Apr 2016 #71
someone that would make Camp Bansalot have a collective apoplectic fit. hobbit709 Apr 2016 #72
I love Tulsi, but she has an electability problem.. grasswire Apr 2016 #76
Give her a chance to walk it back and express understanding of the issue Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #82
You won't need to worry about that... nt fun n serious Apr 2016 #77
In a perfect world, Nina Turner. bjo59 Apr 2016 #78
Noam Chomsky. oasis Apr 2016 #79
Two 80 year old Jewish socialists... I like it. Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #80
someone who can count super-delegates? MFM008 Apr 2016 #85
Christopher Lynn "Chris" Hedges SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2016 #86

Funtatlaguy

(10,878 posts)
7. If it's Hillary....
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:59 PM
Apr 2016

She might think about somebody who supported Bernie in the primary.
If so, I say Raul.

Funtatlaguy

(10,878 posts)
4. Tulsi!!!!!!!!!!
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 01:58 PM
Apr 2016

She's a great speaker.
Military experience.
West Coast to go with Bernie East Coast.

However, the thought of a Muslim (Ellison) in the ticket would be great fun to see the Trump supporters heads explode.....lol.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
48. Oh hay-ell no! Lady MacBeth needs to stay away from the VP job.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 03:40 PM
Apr 2016

"Out, damned spot! out, I say!—One: two: why, then, 'tis time to do't.—Hell is murky!—
Fie, my lord, fie! a soldier, and afeard?
What need we fear who knows it, when none can call our power to account?"

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
81. This is a good choice. Jesse paved the way. I would like a chance to vote for that ticket.
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 03:05 AM
Apr 2016

We need the original idea of the original Rainbow Coalition right now.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
89. Not only does Jesse have solid gold progressive credentials
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 07:37 AM
Apr 2016

but he's also noted as an international diplomat.

And, if the VP is tasked with balancing the ticket, a black, southern, civil rights legend would do nicely.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
92. Yeah I agree. My only concern is they are both pretty old.
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 02:11 AM
Apr 2016

That would be a consideration. But even with that it would still be a good choice.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
12. I'm almost positive Bernie will pick a female VP and I'll be disappointed if he doesn't.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:18 PM
Apr 2016

I'm hoping it would be Warren and her refusal to endorse either candidate kinda plays to that but it might not happen. Other's have made a strong argument as to why she's needed in the Senate.

I'm thinking it might be Tulsi Gabbard and I'd be very happy with that.

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
13. Outside the box a little, but Kshama Sawant is excellent
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:24 PM
Apr 2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kshama_Sawant



Kshama Sawant (/ʃɑːmə sɑːˈwʌnt/)[2] is an American politician who sits on the Seattle City Council.[3][4] A former software engineer, Sawant became a socialist activist and part-time economics instructor in Seattle after immigrating to the United States. Sawant ran unsuccessfully for the Washington State House of Representatives before winning her seat on the Seattle City Council. Sawant was the first socialist to win a city-wide election in Seattle since Anna Louise Strong was elected to the School Board in 1916


Otherwise, I've been very impressed with how well Gabbard presents to an audience, but don't know enough about her. edit to add I llove how she speaks out against U.S. military interventionalism.

Grijalva is another interesting choice. He takes corporate money, doesn't he? I see that as a problem. But maybe he is a good choice.

Ellison, I think he would be a liability as a Muslim. I would have no problem with it, but many would.

Warren would be a great addition to the ticket, but I think she would prefer to be a Senator than a VP.

O'Malley always vibed like a phony to me, but he could be ok. I know others here like him.

If I were Bernie I would stay far away from anyone the establishment would prefer as POTUS, assassination risk.

nemo137

(3,297 posts)
17. After fighting a long, bruising battle with the Democratic party establishment
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:28 PM
Apr 2016

and needing, after the election, if he wins, to have to work with elected Dems, I really don't think trying to bring on another non-Democrat on to the ticket would be a good idea.

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
22. And why not?
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:35 PM
Apr 2016

You think many of those Democrats will vote for Trump or Ryan or whomever? We can triangulate the party establishment the way they've always done it to us, if we get the nomination. They have nowhere else to go. I suppose they could kick up a Bloomberg run or something like that, let them if that's who they are.

I want no part of the corporate Democratic establishment, it is thoroughly rotten. Most voters have figured that out, too, and it's those voters we need to reach.

nemo137

(3,297 posts)
33. No, but you're going to need, among other thing
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:50 PM
Apr 2016

1.) Democrats that didn't vote for Bernie, and who are not socialists, to feel like they're still part of the party (and do things like vote, donate, and volunteer, because no matter how many new faces you bring in, you're not replacing them), because they're not going anywhere
2.) Elected Democrats, of whom there will hopefully be more of after November, to work with Bernie. Telling them to take a flying fuck at a rolling donut by tapping a socialist city councilor for the VP would not be wise
3.) Undecided voters, who may be terrified of a Trump/Cruz/Ryan presidency but not on board with a "revolution", to feel comfortable voting for Sanders

I don't have any problem with Sawant, but I don't think bringing in another independent socialist on to the ticket is a good idea.

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
40. Good points, though I disagree
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:59 PM
Apr 2016

I really think it's time to put people out there who stand for the right things, without apology or compromise. I'm not saying you never compromise as part of governing, I'm saying we need candidates who are themselves uncompromised.

Sawant is really excellent on the issues. She probably isn't ready for such a national stage, which is why I said she's out of the box, but it would be a bold and worthy choice given who Bernie is and what he is fighting for.

I disagree strongly with your point 1), I just don't think we'll lose many of them to a Trump or whomever, and they are not the activist grass-roots energy of the party at all, the Bernie/Warren types are. If they don't like policies like social security, national healthcare, free college tuition (something we used to have at many universities), why are they Democrats? There's a rightful place for socialist constraints on privatization and unchecked capitalism in the Democratic Party, and if we don't stand up for that, we have no soul as a party and very little legitimacy.

Retrograde

(10,137 posts)
74. Sounds like an interesting person but not eligible
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 10:42 PM
Apr 2016

Per the 12th Amendment: "But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
21. I think it would open it up even more
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:35 PM
Apr 2016

Her message and Bernie's are very similar. They would work well together and it would open up the progressive tent even more so.

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
23. That could work
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:38 PM
Apr 2016

I heard, a couple of weeks ago, that Jill reached out to Berne in some way, and wondered what that was about. I was assuming it was about putting him on the Green ticket if Hillary gets the nomination (not that there's any sign Bernie would do that), but it could have been an inquiry re VP.

I actually voted for Jill in 2012, disgusted with Obama after I supported him in '08, and my state was very safe for Obma in the 2012 election so I voted for her.

Response to pinebox (Reply #16)

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
44. I'm not
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 03:22 PM
Apr 2016

because if it's one thing Bernie has done it's open the tent up to new Dems. If he had Stein as a VP that tent would even get larger. Think about it, a unification of progressive ideals.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
58. Not gonna happen. She is welcome to vote for him. I would encourage all of the Greens to do so. nt
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 04:25 PM
Apr 2016
 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
60. Explain your position
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 04:27 PM
Apr 2016

Why do you think that? I see it as more likely than anything considering the Dem establishment has essentially royally screwed him over.

Retrograde

(10,137 posts)
56. An Independent and a Green as the Democratic ticket?
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 04:07 PM
Apr 2016

I don't play n-dimensional chess, and I'm not even all that good at the 2d version, but I see this pairing as problematic down the line as well as down the ballot.

Now, a Sanders/Ellison ticket would be interesting and IMHO more workable.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
59. Bernie is now a Dem
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 04:25 PM
Apr 2016

and if the Dem party wants to grow they need to reach outside the political realm. Both parties are bleeding people. This would ensure a much larger base

Retrograde

(10,137 posts)
91. I think the party stalwarts will vote for the candidate no matter who
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 03:20 PM
Apr 2016

IIRC, roughly a third of voters will vote Democratic no matter who's on the ticket, and a third will vote Republican no matter who. It's the swing center that will be more likely to be put off by a Green candidate, and it's those voters that the Democrats will need to keep the presidency (and, I hope, pick up some more seats in Congress). That's why candidates tend to move more to the center once they receive a party's nomination.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
30. Either Tulsi, Nina, or Elizabeth
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:44 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary doesn't deserve dog catcher. Besides, Bill never was a dog catcher, so she can't ride those coattails to the shelter.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
32. How about Cenk Uygur? He's loud enough, he's ambitious enough,
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:49 PM
Apr 2016

and, gosh darn it, "progressives" supposedly love him...

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
39. 1st question should be,"How best does Bernie want to utilize the office of VP?"
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:55 PM
Apr 2016

keep enemies closer?
domestic congressional liaison?
foreign policy diplomat?
revolution coordinator?
backup QB?

Peachhead22

(1,078 posts)
41. Elizabeth Warren
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 03:14 PM
Apr 2016

Duh!

On edit: Or if he wants to geographically diversify a little, perhaps Gavin Newsome or someone really out of the blue: Wendy Davis.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
65. She was one of the few in Congress with the guts to stand up to Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 04:54 PM
Apr 2016


Cynthia McKinney would hold Bernie's feet to the fire and serve as "Impeachment Insurance."

TheDormouse

(1,168 posts)
47. Elizabeth Warren
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 03:37 PM
Apr 2016

She's not as liberal as I would prefer, but she has served in the Senate, she knows her sht, she can take on the 1%ers, and she's very charismatic.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
51. I would have said Russ Feingold, but ...
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 03:42 PM
Apr 2016

... he's favored to replace Ron "Kochboy" Johnson, in the Senate.

Lone_Wolf

(1,603 posts)
63. Kirsten Gillibrand
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 04:38 PM
Apr 2016

She's, young, liberal, and female.

Plus it would be a nice little slap in the face at Hillary if Bernie chose Hillary's Senate replacement in NY.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
67. Some of the anti-Hillary folks on DU appear to have plenty of time on their hands.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 05:00 PM
Apr 2016

Maybe Bernie could pick one of them.

phiddle

(789 posts)
68. Janet Napolitano
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 05:05 PM
Apr 2016

Strong administrator, security credentials, puts the west in play, doesn't risk a congressional seat, is younger, and will soothe that subset of Clinton voters who wish to see a woman ascend the power structure

carolinayellowdog

(3,247 posts)
71. leave Biden in place?
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 09:50 PM
Apr 2016

Never been done before AFAIK but it might appease Conservadems without alienating Bernie supporters.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
76. I love Tulsi, but she has an electability problem..
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 02:51 AM
Apr 2016

...having supported an anti-muslim organization. And that is a shame.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
82. Give her a chance to walk it back and express understanding of the issue
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 03:15 AM
Apr 2016

I don't think this is a deal breaker. The ant-muslim organization is actually the largest political party in India and their prime minister belongs to it. Which is a problem by itself, but hey maybe she didn't know that much about it.

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