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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:33 PM Apr 2016

Question about the voter registration conspiracy theory in New York

50% (HALF!) of Bernie Sanders supporters' registrations had been SWITCHED from Democrat to independent without their knowledge or consent. That means there are potentially thousands of Bernie supporters who registered as Dem before the deadline but won't be allowed to vote next week.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511719236


If this is actually true, how would one distinguish between a Sanders Democrat and a Hillary Democrat?

Is there something on a voter's registration form that indicates they support Bernie over Hillary? I would assume that the nefarious folks who are changing voter registration forms know how to distinguish between Hillary Democrats and Bernie Democrats.

The conspiracy theory isn't quite clear on this so I'm looking for some answers.

Thank you in advance.
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Question about the voter registration conspiracy theory in New York (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Apr 2016 OP
Hillary broke into the VAN voter files for Sanders campaign... GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #1
Beat me to it! NWCorona Apr 2016 #4
Nailed it. That is about the level of derp involved. nt. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #8
Well why then does Hillary and the DNC continue to refuse to a full audit of the VAN voter rolls? GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #10
You are being serious? I truly thought you were mocking it like the rest of us. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #12
... Cali_Democrat Apr 2016 #14
... NuclearDem Apr 2016 #9
Hahahahaha HA. giftedgirl77 Apr 2016 #16
If Hillary wins 80-20 then we'll know there was something to it nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #2
The DNC voter list NWCorona Apr 2016 #3
+1 krawhitham Apr 2016 #11
The people who are supposedly making these swaps can read minds Gothmog Apr 2016 #5
That one had me laughing my ass off. So much ratfucking going on here. nt. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #6
Really? Shakes head. Iliyah Apr 2016 #7
I worked for the NYC Board of Elections One of the 99 Apr 2016 #13
gee when bernie loses it is ALWAYS because of cheating lol nt msongs Apr 2016 #15
Isn't there a special sub-forum for that type of paranoid conspiratorial and speculative nonsense? NurseJackie Apr 2016 #17
Even if they knew that. LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #18
It's a pretty good cover, I'll give them that. NuclearDem Apr 2016 #19
I continue to be amused by the chicken littles who immediately embrace conspiracy theories. LonePirate Apr 2016 #20
 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
1. Hillary broke into the VAN voter files for Sanders campaign...
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:35 PM
Apr 2016

They then cross referenced that with the voter rolls and forged party change requests for Sanders supporters.

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
10. Well why then does Hillary and the DNC continue to refuse to a full audit of the VAN voter rolls?
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:40 PM
Apr 2016

That is why Sanders kept his lawsuit against the DNC alive.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
12. You are being serious? I truly thought you were mocking it like the rest of us.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:43 PM
Apr 2016

I'm just going to back away.

One of the 99

(2,280 posts)
13. I worked for the NYC Board of Elections
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:46 PM
Apr 2016

3 years ago. This is impossible to do.

And as you said, how would anyone know who was a Bernie supporter and who was a Hillary supporter.

LiberalFighter

(50,943 posts)
18. Even if they knew that.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:53 PM
Apr 2016

They would need to get into the NY voter registration files too. Those files are user and time stamped.

If there was any tampering it would not be secret long. Even if only one or two trusted people managed to make the changes it would not go unnoticed by anyone else that maintains the databases. And not all of them providing support for NY's voter registration files would be Democrats or support Clinton.

I also question whether Bernie supporters are having their voter registration changed. It is most likely they didn't change it soon enough to qualify for the primary. New York requires whatever a voter's registration is at the deadline (about Oct 9, 2015) will be used to determine eligibility for a primary.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
19. It's a pretty good cover, I'll give them that.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 02:53 PM
Apr 2016

"I'm being persecuted" will get you a lot more sympathy than "duh, I just couldn't be bothered."

LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
20. I continue to be amused by the chicken littles who immediately embrace conspiracy theories.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 03:10 PM
Apr 2016

There has been no investigation performed to see what is the cause of this issue. Was it a clerical error? Was it a screw-up by a database admin? Did the voter simply forget? Nor has there been any better investigation into how widespread (or truthful) this 50% claim is. Was it 50% of 2 people or 2,000 people?

People refuse to ask or seek answers to these very basic questions. I still ad, they are stampeding to the conspiracy train as the only possible explanation is malicious intent to harm one candidate or another. Maybe I should not be amused by the predictable nature of the stampede. Maybe I should be appalled by the lack of critical thinking among the American populace.

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