On MSNBC a woman was dismayed at being forced to vote for Kasich, She wants to vote for B. Sanders

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

But thanks to New Yorks October deadline to change affiliation she was disenfranchised from voting for Bernie. This why we need OPEN fair Primaries.

If you can find a link to video of this please post in comments.

[upaloopa]

1. We need people who know the system they live under.

How could she be forced to vote for someone?

[Fawke Em]

12. Why can't voting just be easier?

You sign up before or on the day of.

You don't have to register with a Party. You just pick the party when you go to vote (we do that here in Tennessee).

Closed primaries disenfranchise the 43 percent of Independents.

If you don't like that the Parties are bleeding registrants, that's on the parties. You shouldn't hurt the voters because you suck.

[upaloopa]

22. Because the people who can vote don't vote.

Hillary will be the nominee. She wants to make it easier for everyone to vote. But people won't vote for her so nothing changes.

[KingFlorez]

2. If you want to vote in the Democratic primary, register as a Democrat in time to do so

And if this person is voting for John Kasick, I can't imagine they are really all that liberal.

Democrats should be the ones choosing the DEMOCRATIC nominee. Closed primaries are perfectly fair and if you don't care for the rules, there are other options. Political parties making their own rules is perfectly fair.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

3. Well when the only two options are D & R then it is not fair to disenfranchise people.

This isn't some soccer game, this is real life and the decisions made will impact everybody regardless of party affiliation. People should have the right to vote for the candidates they prefer.

[KingFlorez]

10. Again, people should have changed registration before the deadline

Political parties are private entities that are allowed to make their own rules for their primaries. You aren't disenfranchised if you don't register before the deadline.

[virtualobserver]

9. requiring that you change 8 months in advance of the primary is ABSURD.

[KingFlorez]

13. It's perfectly legal and fair

If Sanders wants to win, he needs to win Democrats. The rules shouldn't tailored to benefit him.

[virtualobserver]

17. Hillary supporters thrive on legal technicalities, it is certainly not fair...more like dumb

It alienates people who might have voted Democratic in the fall.

[KingFlorez]

19. Democrats voting for the Democratic nominee is not a technicality

It's actually very sensible. Sanders should have run as an independent.

[glowing]

11. Because Kasich isn't as much of a loon as Trump or Cruz maybe?

You kind of forget his numbers from that small state sitting to the east of NY... And how much Bernie crosses the lines within the state. For some reason, and maybe it's because we have town halls that have us directly relating to our community, the tax rates, the political seats, the schoolboard and in many small towns, everyone knows everyone. So, logic can prevail as the sensible policy.

One of the reasons single payer in VT would end up being expensive is truly because it's a small state and many go over the boarder for larger procedures. My mom was life lifted to MA for her heart attacks and my dad had his stints put in at Darrmouth... Plus, many people are working poor anyway in VT. I really don't know "wealthy" people that live there. It's patchwork jobs and wing and a prayer... So how do they contribute? And it's an aging population. The state doesn't see a lot of people moving into the state. If only the govt would help our younger generation grab a hold of small farming in sustainable manners, since the small farmers today are aging rapidly... And quit paying subsidies for corn or Michelle Bachman not to plant on her "farm".

Unless the New England area went single payer, it would make more sense for vT to buy into an insurance company for the 650,000 people. There are some companies that large
For goodness sake.

BTW, it was the governor's decision. Bernie had legislation written into the ACA to allow states to organize their health care as single payer starting 2017... If I was these nurses groups, I'd be targeting liberal states to enact single payer in more areas. If they could get VT, NH, And ME to do this, it would help cost sharing.

[bettyellen]

4. No one forced her to register Republican. She missed the deadline- despite all the notices.

And your Op, "forced to vote" is bullshit.

[Human101948]

8. No your argument is more like Republican voter suppression techniques...

Make it as difficult as possible to vote. Low turnout favors your candidate.

[bettyellen]

16. there is a difference between a party primary and an election. I don't want republicans choosing

our candidates any more than they want me picking theirs.


Real disenfranchisement comes when you cannot vote- not when you screwed up by being late. Huge difference there.

[LonePirate]

5. So her ignorance of the law amounts to disenfranchisement?

I think all primaries should be open to everyone and all candidates from every party should be in the same primary. That being said, in lieu of that, people need to follow the law as written or seek to change those laws. She may think she is a victim of an unjust law but she is also a victim of her own ignorance.

Of course, had she always been registered as a Dem, this wouldn't have been a problem.

[Cali_Democrat]

6. She's a registered Republican?

There's the problem.

Her support for a bigoted political party came back to haunt her.

Lesson learned I suppose.

[onehandle]

7. So she just heard there was an election?

No open primaries. When the DNC is here in Philly I am going to have harsh words for them.

[Codeine]

14. Then she should have learned the rules regarding voting in her state.

Basic citizenship.

[brooklynite]

15. Here's the difference between registering to vote and registering to vote as a Democrat...

...one checked box.

No fees

No loyalty oath

No special qualifications

[msongs]

18. the system cannot help it if people are too incompetent to use what others use just fine nt

[Starry Messenger]

20. How hard is it to follow directions?

I do all my voter changes online. If the Sanders camp was basing their strategy on turning out new voters for a Democratic candidate, than this issue should have been the first on their radar, and resources sunk into reminding people how and when to make sure they had their registrations straightened out.

Organizing 101.

[ISeeA BrightFuture]

21. ACTUALLY SHE CAN VOTE FOR HIM - RULE CHANGE!!!!!!!!!

ORIGINAL DU URL: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280172844

Dear New York MoveOn member,

I'm Diana Hird, a MoveOn member in Cold Spring, NY, and I started a petition to The New York State House, The New York State Senate, and Governor Andrew Cuomo , which says:

The instructions on the New York State Voter Registration Form clearly states that New Yorkers who changed their party affiliation between October 9, 2015, and March 25, 2016, are allowed to vote in the April 19 Presidential Primary Election. While it is true that there is an old, obtuse, restrictive law on the books in New York State that says they can't vote, it is so obtuse that employees at the Board of Elections have gotten confused and given out incorrect information on this point - and even the Voter Registration Form misstated the law. Voters shouldn't be penalized for relying on the instructions contained in the Voter Registration Form and on statements made by employees of the Board of Elections.

Let them vote on April 19!


It is the youth vote that is being disenfranchised in the New York State Primary Election because the New York State Voter Registration Form incorrectly states the deadline for voters to change their party affiliation. The young voters who don't have long-standing ties to a political party are the ones who will be turned away at the polls on April 19. There is no time to waste. Sign the petition now so they can vote in the Primary Election on April 19.
Click HERE* to add your name to this petition, and then pass it along to your friends.

Thanks!

Diana Hird

* http://pac.petitions.moveon.org/sign/new-york-state-voter?akid=164078.654740.pC9hiH&rd=1&source=mo.mp&t=2