Is anybody concerned about favorability rankings?

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

New poll out today had these rating for Bernie and Hillary, and the two likely Repuke candidates.

Bernie Sanders


Hillary Clinton


Donald Trump


Ted Cruz


Hilli Vanilli has the 2nd lowest Very Unfavorable ratings only being beat out by Herr Drumpf himself. Even Ted Cruz has a better very unfavorable view than Hillary; This is scary to me. Usually the worst favorability ratings in the general election is the one who loses.

[BillZBubb]

1. Yep. Hillary will go into the GE tethered to a big anchor.

She's not popular, she's not trusted, she's not likable, and she's not inspirational.

Her only hope to overcome that is a republican nominee who scares most people. It could happen.

[Skwmom]

2. Her unfavorables are going to surpass Trump in the general election.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

4. Well I added the math and already the total unfavorables she beat Cruz..

She has 56 for very unfavorable and somewhat unfavorable.
Cruz has 55 for very unfavorable and somewhat unfavorable.

The only saving grace for her is that Cruz doesn't have as high favorable views.

[Stallion]

3. These Numbers Just Point Out That Clinton Supporters Are Good Democrats and Will Support Nominee

...and many Sanders supporters aren't even Democrats and plan to pout about it once they lose

According to Pollster: Clinton 40-56(-16), Cruz 33-56(-23) Trump 30-64(-34)


Trump unfavorable numbers are more than twice as bad as Clinton. Of course, right now Clinton's numbers are being diminished by the saintly Bernie Sanders Crusaders while Clinton supporters really aren't throwing the heat back at Sanders. That's because Clinton supporters are actual, real registered Democrats. Trump and Cruz's numbers are being diminished by the Republican Civil War they've been dreaming of fighting once more. There will be an adjustment once the sore losers decide what to do

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster#favorability-ratings

[BillZBubb]

21. And they say Sanders' supporters are dreamers!

All the republicans will rally around their nominee because he will be a "conservative".

Only part of the Democratic base will rally around Hillary because she is a conservative.

The Independents will split towards the republican or stay home. Once the republican campaign starts going after the Clinton Foundation in the GE, she'll have the highest negatives.

I'm a long time Democratic voter. That will change (at the top of the ticket) if Hillary is the nominee. Your classification of "real" Democrats is baloney. I won't vote for a morally bankrupt money grubber even with a D after the name.

[Buns_of_Fire]

27. Very good. Might as well start laying the foundation now, so that if she loses the GE,

it can be laid at the feet of those horrible 'Bad' Democrats who didn't cheer enough for HRH. Not really necessary, though, since we all know who would be blamed anyway.

"Clap louder, you little creeps!" -Betty White, to an audience of kids who weren't clapping loud enough to save Henny Penny from Foxy Loxy.

[NuclearDem]

5. I'm not.

I must have Stockholm Syndrome or something.

[msongs]

6. the real favorables show she gets more votes and delegates than the bernie guy nt

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

7. The first half favored her, the 2nd half is Bernie territory

[BillZBubb]

22. Lately, it's been the other way around.

[Sunlei]

8. IMO, 'like-ability' isn't very important in selecting a President.

But 'likability' does seem very important to many Americans. It's a little embarrassing, imo

I always found it interesting to do date searches on words our political system uses on 'the masses' to create more Favorable or Unfavorable changes. Then the polls

[Rebkeh]

24. I disagree, sort of

I think it's telling when the winners of elections are not well liked in a democracy.

Not that everyone has to love their leaders, they vote for someone who will work for them, it's not personal. Not to mention that a well liked person may not be effective, But...

if someone is disliked by the majority and still wins? That's a bad look. Real bad. I raise my eyebrow at that, especially if their fully qualified and historically effective opponent was well liked.

So, yes, in this case. It matters. A lot.

[firebrand80]

9. I am

I don't think she'll lose this cycle because of it. It could be an issue in 4 years of the GOP runs a stronger candidate.

[Sancho]

10. No. It's irrevelent

[Rebkeh]

25. See #24 ^ nt

[Sancho]

28. You don't understand...

the reason it doesn't matter is because most people who vote as Democrats or vote for Hillary do not go to rallies or answer polls. Social scientists call them non-ignorable non-respondents.

That's why Bernie has big rallies, but loses most of the votes. He's almost 3 million votes behind now in the primary. The "relevance" you describe is no true for most of the Hillary supporters.

[Rebkeh]

29. ?? That only makes sense AFTER every vote has been cast.

It ain't over yet.

[rock]

11. Wasn't w* really well liked?

How'd he work out as president?

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

12. Got him elected twice...

[rock]

13. By Republicans

So they ARE influenced by favorability. Repeating: How'd that work out for them?

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

14. W sucked as a president, yet Ds provided Kerry

As the other option. He had negative rating, how'd that work out for Ds?

[rock]

16. If your point is

There are a lot of low thinkers who are persuaded by favorability, I agree! You can't overplay your hand by appealing to dumb.

[timmymoff]

30. You can underplay your hand by appealing only to the elite.

[rock]

31. Yep

Agreed.

[SDJay]

15. Yep. Don't We All Remember

the fucking idiotic, "BUT I CAN HAVE A BEER WITH HIM!" bullshit?

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First of all, no you can't. Dubya wouldn't piss all over you if you were rolling around on fire in his driveway.

Secondly, well... I'll stop myself before I get all pissed off reliving that era of shame again.

I do get concerned about these numbers for HRC, though. If the repukes punt on the morons they have in the running now and put someone out there that the public hasn't figured out is scum yet, we could see all those people who have been waiting for a long time to vote against HRC outnumber those who are terrified of what the repuke candidate will do to us all.

We shall see what happens. It could also go the other way - the repukes could go so far over the top with the poop they fling at HRC that she becomes a more sympathetic figure than she is now.

Either way, I think these negatives are something at least worth keeping an eye on as we move into the GE.

[rock]

18. Well luckily

We Dems do have a higher plain of thinking than the Republicans and I agree with you: we shouldn't vote for presidents to have a beer with!

On edit: Can't spell worth a shit on these cheesy keyboards Remember the hefty one on the first PCs?.

[Contrary1]

19. Can you provide a link?

I was involved in one last week that asked me to rate them. I would be interested to see if it was the same one.

Thanks!

[pdsimdars]

20. This one's about trughfullness but I think it's clearer here.

I been posting it wherever relevant. It makes it so clear.
And people with low ratings have not been the ones who got elected. Just a fact.

[JoePhilly]

23. Abstract attitudes fail as predictors of behavior.

The psychological research on this is very clear.

Abstract attitudes, like "favorability" are what you talk about when your candidate is losing on the critical behavior in question.

In this case, voting.

[HereSince1628]

26. Talk about bar graphs meant to confound comparisons!

Who published shit like that?