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Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 04:39 PM Apr 2016

"She's Baldly Lying": Dana Frank Responds to Hillary Clinton's Defense of Her Role in Honduras Coup

Dana Frank is a professor of history at the University of California, Santa Cruz, and an expert on human rights and U.S. policy in Honduras.

http://www.democracynow.org/2016/4/13/shes_baldly_lying_dana_frank_responds

DANA FRANK: Well, I just want to say this is like breathtaking that she’d say these things. I think we’re all kind of reeling that she would both defend the coup and defend her own role in supporting its stabilization in the aftermath. I mean, first of all, the fact that she says that they did it legally, that the Honduras judiciary and Congress did this legally, is like, oh, my god, just mind-boggling. The fact that she then is going to say that it was not an unconstitutional coup is incredible, when she actually had a cable, that we have in the WikiLeaks, in which U.S. Ambassador to Honduras Hugo Llorens says it was very clearly an illegal and unconstitutional coup. So she knows this from day one. She even admits in her own statement that it was the Honduran military, that she says, well, this was the only thing that was wrong there, that it was the military that took Zelaya out of the country, as opposed to somehow that it was an illegal thing we did—that the Honduran government did, deposing a president

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DANA FRANK: Well, I want to make sure that the listeners understand how chilling it is that the leading presidential—a leading presidential candidate in the United States would say this was not a coup. The second thing is that she’s baldly lying when she says we never called it a coup; we didn’t, because that would mean we have to suspend the aid. Well, first of all, they repeatedly called it a coup. We can see State Department statements for months calling it a coup and confirming, yes, we call it a coup.

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she violated the law, decided, well, it wasn’t a military coup, when of course it was. It was the military that put him on the plane, which she says in her statement.


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"She's Baldly Lying": Dana Frank Responds to Hillary Clinton's Defense of Her Role in Honduras Coup (Original Post) Luminous Animal Apr 2016 OP
Another day, another Hillary lie. revbones Apr 2016 #1
You are wrong. Most would NOT be okay with it if they knew. That is why she is a ticking timebomb Skwmom Apr 2016 #3
Does she have NPD? I think its likely she does. Baobab Apr 2016 #5
Shhhhh. We can't inform the voters. We believe in non-transparency. Skwmom Apr 2016 #2
Most wont listen to certain posters I see here, including here on this thread, because all Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #4
Disgusting FreakinDJ Apr 2016 #6
Tuesday night COULD mark the beginning of the END of CLINTONISM / FlatBaroque Apr 2016 #7
Where's the prayer emoticon when we want it? JudyM Apr 2016 #16
kick - Hillary supporters need to read this. Sure, you can still support her as I will if necessary Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #8
they're so far in the bubble they tried to say that aid had to be cut off in only "military coups" MisterP Apr 2016 #9
Is there anything she doesn't lie about? Is there anything she has touched that doesn't ... Scuba Apr 2016 #10
Wall St is not paying her to tell the truth. Nt HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #28
K&R. Barack_America Apr 2016 #11
Does Hillary ever face the consequences of her actions? kristopher Apr 2016 #12
There is a chance that she will at our convention. jwirr Apr 2016 #17
She is SO thoroughly compromised...Don't understand how ANYONE could support her. AzDar Apr 2016 #13
She doesn't seem to think Honduran lives matter. nt artislife Apr 2016 #14
K&R jwirr Apr 2016 #15
It's pretty obvious Hillary Clinton is bold-faced bald-faced motherfucking liar and in Will Pitt's.. Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #18
She is a detestable excuse of a human being. Odin2005 Apr 2016 #19
Notice how the HRC group ignores this? noiretextatique Apr 2016 #20
But it's her turn. . . . . pdsimdars Apr 2016 #24
Meh noiretextatique Apr 2016 #29
Kick DebDoo Apr 2016 #21
But POPES and WHORES! morningfog Apr 2016 #22
It's called "vetting" but I guess it only matters if you care about the truth. Many don't seem to. pdsimdars Apr 2016 #23
Kicking. Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #25
Hillaryites. Don't. Fucking. Care LondonReign2 Apr 2016 #26
K&R me b zola Apr 2016 #27
knr nt slipslidingaway Apr 2016 #30
go slugs! reddread Apr 2016 #31

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
3. You are wrong. Most would NOT be okay with it if they knew. That is why she is a ticking timebomb
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 04:43 PM
Apr 2016

in the general election.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
4. Most wont listen to certain posters I see here, including here on this thread, because all
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 04:45 PM
Apr 2016

some do is attack Hillary and promote GOP garbage.

This situation with what Dana Frank is talking about is one example of many why I support Bernie.

This pisses me off and makes me very angry and I wish there was a way to really put her on the spot for this shit.

But if I am learning of it from certain folks around here, well it is possible I wont even learn about it given their agenda and motive.

So when something is real, important, and bad, like this is exposed, you may not get the attention it deserves.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
8. kick - Hillary supporters need to read this. Sure, you can still support her as I will if necessary
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 05:01 PM
Apr 2016

in November, but what she has done here is bullshit and this area of her platform of positions needs to be changed.

This is ugly stuff and we have to be willing to say so.

By we I mean Americans

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
9. they're so far in the bubble they tried to say that aid had to be cut off in only "military coups"
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 05:03 PM
Apr 2016

as opposed to just plain-vanilla "coup" that the Embassy admitted

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
10. Is there anything she doesn't lie about? Is there anything she has touched that doesn't ...
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 05:36 PM
Apr 2016

... turn out to be a disaster for ordinary people but a winner for the oligarchs?

Bread and Circus

(9,454 posts)
18. It's pretty obvious Hillary Clinton is bold-faced bald-faced motherfucking liar and in Will Pitt's..
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 07:37 PM
Apr 2016

words... a bullshit artist.

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