Hillary Clinton Gets Tepid Response at Black Activist Conference

[NWCorona]

"A week after her husband had a tense encounter with black protesters, Hillary Clinton on Wednesday received a lukewarm response from a gathering of black leaders and voters in New York.

Speaking at the annual conference of the National Action Network, the civil rights organization founded 25 years ago by the Rev. Al Sharpton, Mrs. Clinton declared that “America’s long struggle with racism is far from finished” and presented an agenda that included overhauling the criminal justice system and eliminating lead as a major public threat within five years of taking office. A scattering of audience members occasionally applauded..


Addressing the crowd, John D. Podesta, Mrs. Clinton’s campaign chairman and a former aide to President Obama, said, “I don’t just want it to be the first time a white president replaces a black president, but the first time a woman replaces a man president.”

The crowd was silent.

One of Mrs. Clinton’s biggest applause lines came when she said: “I don’t think President Obama gets the credit he deserves for digging us out of the ditch the Republicans put us in in the first place.”

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/04/13/hillary-clinton-gets-tepid-response-at-black-activist-conference/

This was an interesting article.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

1. She loves playing that gender card...

Bernie would be the first Jewish president and he never talks about that. How about she talk about the issues more and less platitudes

[NWCorona]

3. That's the problem

Hillary can't talk about the issues or her previous experience.

[MisterP]

8. right--she was expecting to run this as a GE since the start of 15

she could tell each audience what it wanted and be the pragmatic leftmost candidate that she always believed herself to be

all her controversies would be too abstracted to feed into a bigger picture of corruption and would be picked up only by RW sources; DNC cheating would be unnoticeable against a Kucinich-type candidate and Brock's cannon would be safely turned outwards, the man who gave us Scalia now sinking his teeth into his former masters

all her bad choices would make her unacceptable to the CommonDreams/Nation readers, but they'd never form a mass movement and the coastal enclaves where they predominated would vote Blue as it always had: events like Caceres' murder wouldn't have one-tenth the attention and political impact had Sanders not run

This wasn't. Supposed. To happen.

it couldn't have--her polls were past 80% when she announced, the GOP was talking down socialism, the stock market was up, the party had thwarted any real challenges and knew what all of its (remaining) voters wanted down to the last iota

[yourpaljoey]

32. All true.

[Dragonfli]

9. Please enlighten us? I don't know why that is other than he doesn't use it a card for political gain

YOU need to tell the rest of us snce YOU said it!

Or are you afraid of your belief as to why? Or afraid to answer US?

[Dragonfli]

11. He embraces his heritage, is he supposed to wear it on a sleeve or something? Elaborate

I'm waiting.......

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. Boy that is one fun dog whistle

Dog whistle 101... I should not hear it

By the way, since coded (don't be coy) Anrisemitism is tolerated, i ain't gonna bother with the alert

[beam me up scottie]

19. Good thing that poster deleted that nasty right wing smear.

But not before we saw what she linked to, some of Hillary's supporters are really outing themselves.

[nadinbrzezinski]

20. Yes, yes they are

[Dragonfli]

25. For those that didn't see it she linked to a columnist that wrote this article about Obama:

http://nypost.com/2013/12/12/obamas-flirt-with-danish-prime-minister-is-a-disgrace/

[font size="3" color ="red"]Flirty Obama owes us an apology[/font]


...Maybe he went into sugar shock over a Danish pastry.

The president of the United States, leader of the free world, standard-bearer for everything upright, good and wholesome about the nation he leads, lost his morality, his dignity and his mind, using the solemn occasion of Nelson Mandela’s memorial service Tuesday to act like a hormone-ravaged frat boy on a road trip to a strip bar.

In front of 91 world leaders, the mourning nation of South Africa and Obama’s clearly furious wife, Michelle, the president flirted, giggled, whispered like a recalcitrant child and made a damn fool of himself at first sight of Denmark’s voluptuously curvy and married prime minister, Helle Thorning-Schmidt...

[beam me up scottie]

26. The author also called Hillary names too, apparently some of her supporters aren't too choosy.

As long as it's dirt on Bernie they don't care if they wake up with fleas.

[Dragonfli]

29. Someone actually had the nerve to alert on Nadin (Jewish by the way) for calling out antisemitism!

I saw it, you saw it, but the antisemitic poster is protected and one of the people that would find personal offense in that brand of bigotry was alerted on for identifying an obvious dog whistle.

What next DU? Is a Neo-Nazi protected group in the works or something?

[beam me up scottie]

35. That was slimy, delete the posts then alert and hope you get a jury who believes you.

The posts were indeed anti-Semitic and imo the poster should apologize - not just for the posts but for the disgusting article she linked to in order to support her claim as well.

Now watch - my post will be alerted on next. Note to jury: calling posts and articles anti-Semitic is not the same thing as calling a poster anti-Semitic. Since three of us who saw the posts attest to their content there's probably something to it.

[Aerows]

38. What did they say?

I missed it. I probably don't want to know, though.

[beam me up scottie]

41. The gist of it was that Bernie was a "bad" Jew, ashamed of being Jewish, etc.

The article linked to went even further, it would have easily been hidden if it wasn't deleted.

[Major Nikon]

21. Results...

On Wed Apr 13, 2016, 05:43 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Boy that is one fun dog whistle
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1725017

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Calling someone antisemitic for NO reason should not be tolerated here. This person does it to everyone.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Apr 13, 2016, 05:53 PM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Oh please. This started with the presumed alerter's comment, "Bernie doesn't embrace Judaism. I think it's a shame." Which invites angry and also confused/confusing responses.
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: sloppy misspelled poor grammar and i have no idea what they are talking about since most of the posts this one is responding to have been self deleted. just let the embarrassment of whatever this poster is responding to...linger..
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I suspect there was probably more to the allegation than the previous poster (probably also the alerter), wanted to reveal, thus the deleted posts. Regardless there's not enough evidence to verify the alert one way or another.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: When I am not sure what to do, I come down on let it stay.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I think the charge of antisemitism is over the top.
Discuss, ask questions, don't accuse.

[nadinbrzezinski]

23. Oh thanks as one of the jurors put it

saying that a Jew is not proud of his roots, or traditions IS antisemitic.

The proof is in the pudding, the mass delete. Ooopsie...

In general the site is tolerating clearly antisemitic images, like a Christ of the Bloody heart (which is also defacing the image and anti-Catholic), with the face of Bernard Sanders. That is getting very close to blood libel.

[Dragonfli]

30. I apologize Nadin, on behalf of what is left of the saner portion of the old crew of DUers. /nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

33. Not a problem

[TM99]

31. This one has a habit of picking fights

and when someone pushes back, they go run screaming to a jury for protection.

[nadinbrzezinski]

34. I know, I expected the alert

that will not stop me from calling him on that dog whistle.

[Aerows]

37. I'd comment

but I'm only allowed to point out homophobia.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511696374#post57

[nadinbrzezinski]

39. Some of these folks are doing incredible damage

by going there and playing those stupid games.

[artislife]

27. Well she's a woman,.... as far as I know...

Just playing off her famous quote about Obama and being a Christian....

[Avalux]

2. John "Panama Papers" Podesta.

His intro line is particularly cringe-worthy:

“I don’t just want it to be the first time a white president replaces a black president, but the first time a woman replaces a man president.”

[NWCorona]

4. I can't understand why he has the position he has

And it was a huge mistake having him speak there.

[arcane1]

5. Doesn't that mean he DOES want it to be a white president replacing a lack one?

Why is that something to want?

[ViseGrip]

6. The NYT doesn't seem to like her much, really.

[Warren Stupidity]

12. Did she try re-running her de Blasio skit?

After all, it was great, everyone loved it, or so I've been told.

[NWCorona]

15. Highly unlikely lol!

I'm sure that and Bill's remarks are on a lot of people's minds in NY

[Barack_America]

22. "I can see your applause is running on CPT"...

..."That's okay, I'll wait".

"What? That's condescending politician time"

[Uncle Joe]

16. I believe Bernie will be speaking to the National Action Network tomorrow.

Thanks for the thread, NWCorona.

[NWCorona]

17. No problem!

I hope he comes with his A game! I also wonder how many of those in attendance were at his night at the Apollo? I watched that like 3 times now.

[pdsimdars]

40. I will LOVE seeing the contrast in content and in reception. That will say something.

[mhatrw]

18. Her speech brought them to heel.

They will get around to cheering soon enough. They use a different time zone, don't you know.

[BirdieSanders]

28. I will cop to a decent amount of sand in my craw over supposed "First Draft"s flagrant editorializng

[Ino]

36. This is what they're looking forward to...

“I don’t just want it to be the first time a white president replaces a black president,
but the first time a woman replaces a man president.”

Racist and sexist, all in one sentence! Hey, why aren't we all onboard with Hillary's ambitions?!

[Hydra]

42. But Queen Hillary can say anything!

Her supporters all say so...right after they get done saying the same thing

[imagine2015]

43. K & R

[Cheese Sandwich]

44. Wonder if she made any jokes about "Colored People Time"