2016 Postmortem

Skink

(10,122 posts) Wed Apr 13, 2016, 06:28 PM Apr 2016

Looks like we have to move to caucuses in every state

We can no longer let the states subsidize the two shrinking parties with Primaries since not all can participate.

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Looks like we have to move to caucuses in every state (Original Post) Skink Apr 2016 OP

No thanks TMontoya Apr 2016 #1

Ha!! :-D NurseJackie Apr 2016 #2

So going a model where 20% voter turnout is considered high Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #3

I've seen 10% caucus turnout results being described as "the overwhelming will of the people". nt Codeine Apr 2016 #8

That is my problem with caucuses. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #19

Yup. Agschmid Apr 2016 #13

No more caucuses. And no more closed primaries. (nt) bigwillq Apr 2016 #4

Translation: Bernie is going to lose New York. nt Cali_Democrat Apr 2016 #5

All Democrats are welcome to participate in our Democratic Party selection process. nt Codeine Apr 2016 #6

I agree nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #7

No. Agschmid Apr 2016 #14

Which is the point in this case nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #16

Those aren't the choices and you know that. Agschmid Apr 2016 #18

And people can participate in caucuses? Even in the several states where they are closed? LonePirate Apr 2016 #9

someone thinks they're going to lose New York nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #10

So let's move to the system that really does disenfranchise the vast majority of voters? Godhumor Apr 2016 #11

This concludes tonight's psychological assessment Skink Apr 2016 #12

At least they make election theft somewhat harder. What a sad commentary on the state of Skwmom Apr 2016 #15

It is not like nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #17

TMontoya

(369 posts)

1. No thanks

Reply to Skink (Original post)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 06:29 PM

Apr 2016

I'm sorry if you're throwing a hissy fit over Sanders about to be trounced in NY. But the majority is speaking and they aren't picking Sanders.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)

2. Ha!! :-D

Reply to Skink (Original post)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 06:30 PM

Apr 2016

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)

3. So going a model where 20% voter turnout is considered high

Reply to Skink (Original post)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 06:37 PM

Apr 2016

Is your idea?

I think we should get rid of caucuses because they tend to suppress the vote by their arcane rule.

Codeine

(25,586 posts)

8. I've seen 10% caucus turnout results being described as "the overwhelming will of the people". nt

Reply to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 06:42 PM

Apr 2016

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)

19. That is my problem with caucuses.

Reply to Codeine (Reply #8)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:58 AM

Apr 2016

A system that discourages broad participation is not little "d" democratic.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)

13. Yup.

Reply to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #3)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:14 AM

Apr 2016

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)

4. No more caucuses. And no more closed primaries. (nt)

Reply to Skink (Original post)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 06:39 PM

Apr 2016

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)

5. Translation: Bernie is going to lose New York. nt

Reply to Skink (Original post)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 06:40 PM

Apr 2016

Codeine

(25,586 posts)

6. All Democrats are welcome to participate in our Democratic Party selection process. nt

Reply to Skink (Original post)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 06:40 PM

Apr 2016

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)

7. I agree

Reply to Skink (Original post)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 06:41 PM

Apr 2016

Please do so

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)

14. No.

Reply to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #7)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:14 AM

Apr 2016

Caucuses inherently disenfranchise large percentages of the electorate.

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)

16. Which is the point in this case

Reply to Agschmid (Reply #14)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:20 AM

Apr 2016

either parties are doing a public good, or they are not and are private clubs. Chose a lane.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)

18. Those aren't the choices and you know that.

Reply to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #16)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:40 AM

Apr 2016

LonePirate

(13,426 posts)

9. And people can participate in caucuses? Even in the several states where they are closed?

Reply to Skink (Original post)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 06:50 PM

Apr 2016

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)

10. someone thinks they're going to lose New York nt

Reply to Skink (Original post)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 06:52 PM

Apr 2016

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)

11. So let's move to the system that really does disenfranchise the vast majority of voters?

Reply to Skink (Original post)

Wed Apr 13, 2016, 06:55 PM

Apr 2016

Sounds like a plan!

Skink

(10,122 posts)

12. This concludes tonight's psychological assessment

Reply to Skink (Original post)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:13 AM

Apr 2016

Thank you to all who participated.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)

15. At least they make election theft somewhat harder. What a sad commentary on the state of

Reply to Skink (Original post)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:15 AM

Apr 2016

our voting process. It's like we live in a Banana Republic.

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)

17. It is not like

Reply to Skwmom (Reply #15)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:23 AM

Apr 2016

we do.

Why I call these pretend elections for a pretend democracy

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